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<description><![CDATA[bemis posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1206870" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1206870');">ctvarner</a>:</said><p>I grabbed the string trimmer, which always starts on the 4th pull, and pulled the rope about 50 times.  My wife called from across the yard, ever so sweetly, "Did you put the new spark plug in it?"  Furious at the (expletive) trimmer, I positively BELLOWED back at her, "OF COURSE I PUT THE ...  oh."  8-) <br> </p></div>As least it should have been very easy to pull the rope w/ no plug in place right? :-P]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[marigolds posted : Another really good tip is to wear jeans.<br><br>I was wearing shorts the first time I started up our electric trimmer. Well, somehow the bump feed went a little crazy while the trimmer sat over winter and I ended up with the tip of an inch long piece of string stuck into my shin.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Pacrat posted : That may be a better tip than mine! Always replace the spark plug before attempting to start a gasoline engine! Even the old one is better than none.<br> <br><small>I'm sure the wife will soon forget that ever happened... right?</small><br><small>--<br>Keep your eye on the ball, your shoulder to the wheel, your nose to the grindstone, and your ear to the ground. Now, try to work in that position!!!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 13:09:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ctvarner posted : One fine spring day I pulled out all the mowing machines, changed the oil, and took all the spark plugs to the hardware store to get new ones.  I put a new plug in the tractor and mowed the yard.  I put a new plug in the push mower and did the trimming.  I grabbed the string trimmer, which always starts on the 4th pull, and pulled the rope about 50 times.  My wife called from across the yard, ever so sweetly, "Did you put the new spark plug in it?"  Furious at the (expletive) trimmer, I positively BELLOWED back at her, "OF COURSE I PUT THE ...  oh."  8-) ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bemis posted : A friend has an old generator which has a low-oil sensor.  The sensor is OK once the engine is running, but during "start up" it will act like a kill switch.<br><br>He rigged a doorbell button to the side of the generator so that he can press the button (bypassing the low oil switch) while he's pull starting, then release it after the engine is running.<br><br>If you have a generator that doesn't start and you find no spark, try bypassing the low oil sensor... if you get spark you know the culprit and replace the sensor or add oil]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sparks posted : Well we have 2 stations here that sell NON ethanol gas and after they said it was better the EXPERTS had to be interviewed on the local news. ethanol gas is great and you should run it and not using ethanol is wrong for the environment bla bla BLA<br><br>So the gas stations got an expert and he said that 10% ethanol cut up to 25% off fuel economy and proven test show only minimal gains in emissions. The reason they want you to use it is because at $3+++ a gallon they make more money, while it cost you just as much and you get to buy more of it.<br><br>Lets get in there and give the oil companies more kick backs its the only way for politicians to get bigger bribes.<br><br>Knowing how corporations run the country I keep wondering if the 85 or 87 ratings are used before they add the ethanol.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Grumpy posted : Not that it matters to you, but once you add oil to gas to create a 2 cycle blend, the octane level drops. You're actually running 86.X octane in your Stihl(s). Then there's the ethanol. If you happen to live where the gas is not cut with 10% ethanol, congratulations. 'Round here all we can get is alcohol cut gas. <br><br>Boring story about ethanol - A buddy & I were riding west across NY to Buffalo. After running 100 or so miles on 100% / no ethanol gas bought in interior NY, we stopped for a break. I asked if his bike was running better. He replied he was just about to ask me the same thing. The engine performance difference in our usual and customary CT bought ethanol cut gas vs. no ethanol gas was significant. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 07:41:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/439020" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=439020');">Grumpy</a>:</said><p>I'm not advising on Stihl 2 stroke 89 octane fuel requirements - I'm just reading the label. I figure the Stihl engineers know more about which octane to use than I do. For the sake of twenty cents extra a month, I do what they recommend. <br><br>If memory serves, (and that's always questionable for me), the Stihl 89 octane labeling first appeared a year or so ago? <br> </p></div>I don't know when it appeared but I've been using regular in mine for years with no adverse effects.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Grumpy posted : I'm not advising on Stihl 2 stroke 89 octane fuel requirements - I'm just reading the label. I figure the Stihl engineers know more about which octane to use than I do. For the sake of twenty cents extra a month, I do what they recommend. <br><br>If memory serves, (and that's always questionable for me), the Stihl 89 octane labeling first appeared a year or so ago? ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[stev32k posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/439020" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=439020');">Grumpy</a>:</said><p>Just some random thoughts<br><br>Stihl brand 2 cycle oil requires the use of 89 octane (mid grade) fuel.<br>Some claim the higher octane burns a little cooler. Not sure. <br><br>Ethanol is essentially alcohol. Alcohol readily absorbs water. Almost every gas tank is susceptible to condensation. Stale ethanol gas = problems. </p></div>Been using regular in my Stihl equipment for years with no adverse problems. </p></div>I used regular gas in my Stihl chain saws for years also, but when I started using 93 octane I could tell a significant difference in starting ease and running RPM.  <br><br>Ethanol in gas is one of the main reasons I started putting fuel stabilizer in all the gas for 2 and 4 cycle engines.   The stabilizer will prevent ethanol from absorbing water (at least they claim it will).  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/439020" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=439020');">Grumpy</a>:</said><p>Just some random thoughts<br><br>Stihl brand 2 cycle oil requires the use of 89 octane (mid grade) fuel.<br>Some claim the higher octane burns a little cooler. Not sure. <br><br>Ethanol is essentially alcohol. Alcohol readily absorbs water. Almost every gas tank is susceptible to condensation. Stale ethanol gas = problems.<br> </p></div>Been using regular in my Stihl equipment for years with no adverse problems.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Grumpy posted : Just some random thoughts<br><br>Stihl brand 2 cycle oil requires the use of 89 octane (mid grade) fuel.<br>Some claim the higher octane burns a little cooler. Not sure. <br><br>Ethanol is essentially alcohol. Alcohol readily absorbs water. Almost every gas tank is susceptible to condensation. Stale ethanol gas = problems.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : You may be right, plus it'll take me forever to use it all up. I'll give him the good news tonight..]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[AsherN posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/261797" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=261797');">chmod</a>:</said><p>I was mf'ing my snowblower 2 years ago.  Alas it had the illusive "key" in the off position.  I will reluctantly mention it may have been after a few beers also. <br> </p></div>Been there. Took out the spark plug, cleaned it, re-gapped it. Was ready to take it to the shop...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[leibold posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by PremTech101 :</said><p>Being low lead would it harm my mower or gas trimmer?</p></div>As long as you don't use it in any engine with catalytic converter you should be fine. However the high octane won't give any benefit to your gas powered appliances while it may give an edge to your racing buddy. If I were you, I'd make the friend happy.<br><small>--<br>Got some spare cpu cycles ? Join <A HREF="/forum/helix"> Team Helix </a> or <A HREF="/forum/seti"> Team Starfire</a>!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jed posted : Theres huge YMMV when we're talking about FE in a vehicle.  I live where its cold 8 mos of the year, and also have different formulations of fuel than where you are.  Our fuel can have up to 20% ethanol.  CR didn't come up here and test.<br><br>There are no other constant changes for me, like your daily commute (150 miles!  wow) when I run my mileage testing on my van.  And every time I swap fuels my mileage goes from about 10.1 to 10.5l/100km down to between 8.2 to 8.8l/100km.  Same road, same speeds, etc.  And my Olds, whose mileage was a constant 33mpg since new (highway), is down to about 29mpg now.  That may be time because its older, but I'm convinced its not.<br><br>But, in any event, this thread was more about small engines.  And my brand new Briggs powered SB, where I always, since new, used regular fuel with stabilizer, it gummed up in less than a year.  That was 3 yrs ago.  I've since switched (after cleaning out the carb) to premium or AV gas, and it hasn't missed a beat.  Not only that, storing this ethanol crap in a plastic container means it starts to degrade almost instantly.  CR didn't test that either.  <br><br>My local Polaris dealership is constantly fighting fuel problems.  So much now that Polaris has required them to do a test on the fuel for certain conditions of warranty.  This is as of about 18 mos ago.<br><br>My string trimmers (3) all start on the first pull now.  My hedge trimmer that was always running about half throttle, now has an idle.  My SB no longer needs the choke on to run.  My saws (4) all start WAY more easily.  The pros far outweigh the cons.  In fact, the only con is cost, which in the amount they use, to me, is inconsequential.  To be fair, my Kawasaki powered mowers run no different with the fuels, but they get premium/AV anyways.<br><br>So, for me, I'm consistently getting better fuel economy in my van and as well, the dreaded sticking fuel sender in the tank straightens itself out while using premium.  That doesn't mean I use it all the time, as it is hard to source regularly, and, I won't pay an extraordinary premium.  But if I can get it for about $0.05/l extra, I'll do it.<br><br>Quote interweb all you want.  No one says you Must use this type of fuel.  Its your pocket book.  And like me, CR has an opinion.  Thats all it is.  No one should believe everything they read, books or interweb.  But the idea is to share and perhaps find something that may help some with the same troubles.  We've done this for years, be it as a conversation in a coffee shop, a how to book, a forum or a CR article.  <br><br>But, for me, my evidence is all around me.  And the little bit it costs for the better fuel is far worth it to me.  That, is my fuel story.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/425240" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=425240');">jed</a>:</said><p>Regular gas is absolute crap!  If they bump up the amount of ethanol added to regular, the refiners only have to produce about a 80 octane fuel.<br><br>All of my small engine stuff starts MUCH better with high test.  Even better with AV gas, which I sourced last fall.  I don't use the better gas for more power, I got tired of the poor starting, gummed up carbs, having to keep chokes on to run, etc.  And fyi, 2 things. I counted the other day, I have 16 pieces of small engine equipment that I use regularly.  And, I used to always use fuel stabilizer.  Made zero difference.<br><br>So, I threw in a few tankfuls of premium in my minivan.  I used it for a few months and got about 10 to 15% better fuel economy, depending upon usage.<br><br>So, essentially, we're paying premium fuel prices for gasoline that was labelled as regular a few years ago.  Yea.<br> </p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27142675-">Re: Thought I'd pass along this handy tip...</A><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27142983-">Re: Thought I'd pass along this handy tip...</A><br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27143810-">Re: Thought I'd pass along this handy tip...</A><br><br>   <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>Using high-octane gas in a car designed for regular accomplishes little except more rapid combustion of your money. Some refuse to believe this, claiming, for example, that premium gives the family Toyota better mileage or more power. These people are in dreamland. Others say premium is purer or contains detergents that will cleanse your engine of uncouth deposits. Likewise misguided thinking--government regulations require detergents in all grades of gasoline. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>For 3 years I drove 150 miles per day to work and back. I always bought my gas at the same station. I kept close watch on the gas mileage. The station was Texaco to start and Shell later. I experimented using regular, mid-range and hi-test. The results were exactly the same over a 3 year period. Not perception but fact.  This is the direct result of having 10 percent ethanol in all blends.<br><br>  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>Energy content:  fuel ethanol contains around 33 percent less energy content than regular gasoline. The energy content of gasohol blends (E10 or E85) is determined by the energy content of ethanol and gasoline, and their ratio.<br><br>Engine power and fuel economy: The engine power and fuel economy are determined by the engine configuration, the efficiency of an engine, and volumetric energy content of the fuel used by the engine. For the same engine type and efficiency, the difference in fuel economy depends entirely on the volumetric content of the fuels. Due to the low energy content of ethanol (Table 1), E10 has approximately 2 percent lower mileage than regular gasoline. For example, a car averaging 30 miles per gallon (mpg) on gasoline would average 29.4 mpg when using E10. However, when using FFV running on E85, the mileage will drop significantly (10 percent to 15 percent lower than gasoline). A Consumer Reports article in the October 2006 issue reported on the poor fuel economy of FFVs fueled by E85. Currently, major automakers are optimizing their FFVs to run E85 more efficiently.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://pubs.ext.vt.edu/442/442-884/442-884.html" >pubs.ext.vt.edu/442/442-884/442-884.html</A><br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Not to get too far off subject but I've got a 55g drum of 110LL that I just got from a aviation buddy. Being low lead would it harm my mower or gas trimmer? My racing buddy is drooling over it so if not I could always give it to him.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sennheizer posted : It a max of 10% here. I wouldn't imagine putting anything more then 10% in my stuff.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[jed posted : Regular gas is absolute crap!  If they bump up the amount of ethanol added to regular, the refiners only have to produce about a 80 octane fuel.<br><br>All of my small engine stuff starts MUCH better with high test.  Even better with AV gas, which I sourced last fall.  I don't use the better gas for more power, I got tired of the poor starting, gummed up carbs, having to keep chokes on to run, etc.  And fyi, 2 things. I counted the other day, I have 16 pieces of small engine equipment that I use regularly.  And, I used to always use fuel stabilizer.  Made zero difference.<br><br>So, I threw in a few tankfuls of premium in my minivan.  I used it for a few months and got about 10 to 15% better fuel economy, depending upon usage.<br><br>So, essentially, we're paying premium fuel prices for gasoline that was labelled as regular a few years ago.  Yea.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p>I don't know where you are but here all grades are labeled 10 percent but that varies all over the place from 5 percent to 20 percent. The 20 percent is causing all kinds of grief to those buying it.<br> </p></div>Even 10% is too much. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1827055" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1827055');">iknow</a>:</said><p>the problem is, if regular has ethanol in it, it has only 76100 BTU per gallon. so you'd get more power with premium without the ethanol. ethanol was a stupid idea anyway, so much corn is diverted to making that, that feed prices have gone way up, and increased the meat prices for anything that eats, or has corn as part of it's food.<br> </p></div>I don't know about where you live but all grades of gasoline in Virginia have Ethanol so the reduction is across the board in power. <br><br>We can go to a marina and get non-Ethanol fuel if we want to pay over $5/gal for it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[workablob posted : I ditched gas powered and am strictly cordless electric. I don't recommend cordless electric for heavy jobs but for my 1/4 acre lot it does the trick.<br><br>I literally threw my gas trimmer and blower in the trash after getting sick of trying to start them.<br><br>Dave]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[iknow posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p><a target=_top href="http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/consumer_tips/regular_vs_premium.html">REGULAR VERSUS PREMIUM GASOLINE</a><br><br>Regular Gasoline Has As Much Merit As Premium Gasoline<br><br>There is little difference in energy content of regular versus premium gasoline. They both contain about 111,400 British Thermal Units of energy per gallon. <br><br>Using the fuel stabilizer is a good practice. Been using it for years with good results. Right now I'm using fuel I mixed last fall in my trimmer and blower.<br><br>From Scientific American:<br><br>Fact or Fiction?: Premium Gasoline Delivers Premium Benefits to Your Car<br><br><a target=_top href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-premium-g">Exploding the myth that premium gasoline delivers better performance in the average automobile</a><br><br>In most of the U.S., regular gas has an octane rating of 87, midgrade gas is 89, and premium is 91 or 92. (Octane ratings are lower in the mountain west due to the effects of thin air on internal combustion.) Contrary to widespread belief, the octane rating doesn't indicate how much power the fuel delivers; all grades of gasoline contain roughly the same amount of heat energy. Rather, a higher octane rating means the fuel is less likely to cause your engine to knock or ping. Knock, also known as detonation, occurs when part of the fuel-air mixture in one or more of your car's cylinders ignites spontaneously due to compression, independent of the combustion initiated by the spark plug. (The ideal gas law tells us that a gas heats up when compressed.) Instead of a controlled burn, you get what amounts to an explosion--not a good thing for your engine. To avoid this, high-octane gas is formulated to burn slower than regular, making it less likely to ignite without benefit of spark. <br><br><a target=_top href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2565/whats-the-difference-between-premium-and-regular-gas">What's the difference between premium and regular gas?</a><br> </p></div>the problem is, if regular has ethanol in it, it has only 76100 BTU per gallon. so you'd get more power with premium without the ethanol. ethanol was a stupid idea anyway, so much corn is diverted to making that, that feed prices have gone way up, and increased the meat prices for anything that eats, or has corn as part of it's food.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <a href="http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/consumer_tips/regular_vs_premium.html">REGULAR VERSUS PREMIUM GASOLINE</a><br><br>Regular Gasoline Has As Much Merit As Premium Gasoline<br><br>There is little difference in energy content of regular versus premium gasoline. They both contain about 111,400 British Thermal Units of energy per gallon. <br><br>Using the fuel stabilizer is a good practice. Been using it for years with good results. Right now I'm using fuel I mixed last fall in my trimmer and blower.<br><br>From Scientific American:<br><br>Fact or Fiction?: Premium Gasoline Delivers Premium Benefits to Your Car<br><br><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-premium-g">Exploding the myth that premium gasoline delivers better performance in the average automobile</a><br><br>In most of the U.S., regular gas has an octane rating of 87, midgrade gas is 89, and premium is 91 or 92. (Octane ratings are lower in the mountain west due to the effects of thin air on internal combustion.) Contrary to widespread belief, the octane rating doesn't indicate how much power the fuel delivers; all grades of gasoline contain roughly the same amount of heat energy. Rather, a higher octane rating means the fuel is less likely to cause your engine to knock or ping. Knock, also known as detonation, occurs when part of the fuel-air mixture in one or more of your car's cylinders ignites spontaneously due to compression, independent of the combustion initiated by the spark plug. (The ideal gas law tells us that a gas heats up when compressed.) Instead of a controlled burn, you get what amounts to an explosion--not a good thing for your engine. To avoid this, high-octane gas is formulated to burn slower than regular, making it less likely to ignite without benefit of spark. <br><br><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2565/whats-the-difference-between-premium-and-regular-gas">What's the difference between premium and regular gas?</a>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[stev32k posted : I have a Husqvarna back pack blower that specifies a minimum 89 Octane and recommends 93 octane.  So I started using 93 in all my 2-stroke engines and it does make a difference.  The string trimmer and hedge trimmer turn up a noticeably higher RPM with the higher octane gas.  <br><br>I've also started using fuel stabilizer in all the engines.  I don't use the chain saw very often and it was very hard to start after setting for a month or so.  With the stabilizer it starts up on the second or third pull.  The same is true for the pressure washer.  I only use it two or three times a year and it used to be a real pain trying to start it after setting for a long time.   With the stabilizer added it starts on the second pull almost every time (if I remember to put the run/stop switch in the run position).   ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[UHF posted : Around here (Iowa) all "regular" gas is 87 octane, and "super" is 89, but is 10% ethanol. I use the 87 octane in my Cub Cadet with a Kohler engine.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by supergas :</said><p>I too doubt the mower cares about the octane but, at least around here super/premium/hi-octane is ethanol free. While regular and mid grade "may contain up-to 10% ethanol." That's the only reason I use it in my mower and trimmer. I'd like to think by now small engine manufactures have learned to deal with ethanol but it's cheap insurance.<br> </p></div>I don't know where you are but here all grades are labeled 10 percent but that varies all over the place from 5 percent to 20 percent. The 20 percent is causing all kinds of grief to those buying it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I too doubt the mower cares about the octane but, at least around here super/premium/hi-octane is ethanol free. While regular and mid grade "may contain up-to 10% ethanol." That's the only reason I use it in my mower and trimmer. I'd like to think by now small engine manufactures have learned to deal with ethanol but it's cheap insurance.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : Octane rating or octane number is a standard measure of the performance of a motor or aviation fuel. The higher the octane number, the more compression the fuel can withstand before detonating. In broad terms, fuels with a higher octane rating are used in high-compression engines that generally have higher performance.<br><br>I doubt if trimmers, blowers chainsaws etc have enough compression to even notice the Octane of the fuel. Consumer Reports has said over and over again if the owners manual doesn't call for high octane gas because of the compression ratio then buying it is a waste of money.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Pacrat posted : Oh... I've mowed, and mowed, and mowed this year... about twice a week. I've just been using my walk-behind LawnBoy to mow with. I rarely use the Cub to mow... I use the deck mostly in the fall to collect the leaves. The docs are preaching at me to exercise more, and so I mow fairly frequently and get some walking in to boot.  My daughter doesn't like to use the LawnBoy to mow with, so I probably should mount the deck so she can use the Cub. That way, maybe she'll cut her own damn grass. <br><br>We've got so many "nooks & crannies" at my place that I still have to either use the trimmer or the small mower to trim after I mow with the big deck on the Cub, that, timewise, it's almost as fast to just use the walk-behind in the first place.  Every once in awhile, I do mow with the Cub but it's usually when I'm in a big hurry to beat the rain, or when it has been so wet the grass gets ahead of me. But that doesn't happen very often so the Cub sits pretty much all summer. The Cub deck is 50" which is really too big for the yard I have, but that's what came with the tractor so I didn't bother with trying to "trade down" on deck size. <br><small>--<br>Keep your eye on the ball, your shoulder to the wheel, your nose to the grindstone, and your ear to the ground. Now, try to work in that position!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[rockotman posted : You haven't cut yet?<br><br>Your yard must be a jungle!  <br><br>I've been cutting weekly since late March, and I am only about 50 miles away.<br><br>p.s., regarding the 89 octane gas... my mower, which I  bought back in 2007 and my Swisher, which I bought 2 years ago, both indicate that 89 or higher octane should be used because of the ethanol content prevalent in most fuels today.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://users.zoominternet.net/~rockotman/ShineOn.mp3">Shine on you crazy diamond...</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Pacrat posted : One of these fine days, I'm going to have to take the snow-blower attachment off my Cub and mount the mower deck. I'm pretty sure we're beyond the risk of a major snowstorm.  :D  <br><small>--<br>Keep your eye on the ball, your shoulder to the wheel, your nose to the grindstone, and your ear to the ground. Now, try to work in that position!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Pacrat posted : My dealer advised me to use, at least, 89 octane fuel for my implements (trimmer, leaf blower, chainsaw, mower, tractor, and snow-blower), and I've been pleasantly surprised how much easier it is to get things started since I've been doing that. Everything seems to run much better on the higher octane. But, so far, I've not seen the need to go all the way to pemium.  Not that I don't agree with you about not using regular gasoline... it's just that full premium seems to be a bit of overkill to me. However, whatever works for you is good.<br><small>--<br>Keep your eye on the ball, your shoulder to the wheel, your nose to the grindstone, and your ear to the ground. Now, try to work in that position!!!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[sparks posted : yea and with the quality of gas now, its best to use premium.<br>My mower would cough and sputter on high grass and and my trimmer and blower were hard to start. I purchased some premium to try and not one problem after that.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[rockotman posted : My experience has always been that the last item you listed is usually the <i>only</i> culprit that prevents starting.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://users.zoominternet.net/~rockotman/ShineOn.mp3">Shine on you crazy diamond...</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[chmod posted : I was mf'ing my snowblower 2 years ago.  Alas it had the illusive "key" in the off position.  I will reluctantly mention it may have been after a few beers also. <br><small>--<br>Some people are like Slinkies.  Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Lurch77 posted : That's like the shop vac in my work van. It was passed down to me by a senior technician. He wrote "suck" and "blow" near the inlet and outlet. It is nice, too, as the hose doesn't stay attached when stored, and I can never remeber what orifice is which.  :)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[norton posted : my wife wrote on our leaf blower with a fine point permanent marker - off/on and it works.  the no word "o" "-" just wasn't getting the job done.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cdru posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/655722" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=655722');">leibold</a>:</said><p>Leaving the kill switch in the "kill" position is a good idea when there is any chance that children might try to play with it. Of course, letting it run out of gas is an even safer option :-)<br> </p></div>If any kid is old enough to get my string trimmer/mower/snow blower/chain saw running by playing with it, they are old enough to start using it.  Electric start devices aside, I don't think any gas device I own would be able to be started by a kid playing with them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Lurch77 posted : I did this with a chainsaw. Except in an even dumber way. I was using it when it quite. Tried to restart, nope. Went to add gas, it had plenty. Try to restart again. Still nope. Carried it all the way back to the garage before I saw I had bumped the kill switch while I was using it. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[UHF posted : Thanks for the tip! This has happened to me, too, and I'll try to keep it in mind in the future before pulling the recoil rope 165 times.]]></description>
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