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BEX_Slave

@buckeyecom.net
reply to Bex_caps

Re: ... and now we have caps.

@ NW Ohio
Verizon FiOS has been defiantly stopped expanding a while back. But Bedford area has reports of FiOS signs coming sometime soon. Maybe its just frontier run? idk. It won't make it to Toledo so whats it matter; I don't think FTTP is dead though. It's just a bit before its needed time.

Unless you us posting here of-course.

WISP seem to never work out for some reason or another. Fiber and real connections have much more products to sell as well. But I'm sure Buckeye or AT&T (more recently) has bought up all the fiber in Toledo.

Zayo has a nice fiber ring and is expanding right now. If you are on-net. But I couldn't find any other dark fiber around here.

Of-course we are talking possibly $200+ monthly fee for a dedicated line; if not more. But I don't think anyone here has a problem "Paying Their Fair Share", just the fact the caps & prices from Buckeye are BS.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to Bex_caps

Will never happen. That dark fiber is NOT available for public use in your neighborhood. You'd have to go into where it is spliced at. And it's NOT in a neighborhood. And you do realize how much that would cost right?

NOBODY would be willing to foot that bill. To hook 1 customer up it would cost $3,000+ not including building out a NOC.

Also Springfield/Holland is TWC land.



BEX_Slave

@buckeyecom.net

Like I said, if you are on-net you probably could get a dedicated line for a reasonable price. Instillation price is the worst, yes. But if you don't plan to move for quite a while 10k investment in installation is not bad all things considered....

I not sure what you mean dark fiber is not for public use. Obviously its not free or public, but anyone could buy/lease/contract enough fiber to start a ISP. It's not just financially viable or a very good investment.

What do you mean Springfield/Holland is TWC land? Do you mean Buckeye-Express land?

Buckeye has been the only service available to my house. U-Verse started maybe 2 years ago? They only knocked on my door a tried to sell it to me it over 15 times.

Did I miss something? Is Time Warner owners of Block Communications? IDK all I want is unlimited internet. I don't really care the speed. Every DSL company in Toledo is really Buckeye or AT&T DSL outsourced.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

Bedford will NOT get FiOS. you do realize that Frontier is NOT expanding their footprint either right? ATT is NOT either- and ATT does NOT have FiOS. They have U-Verse.

WISPs work only when the network is built correctly. But they're rural focused. NOT City focused. Unless you know how to do it. Which I used to own a WISP in Fremont, and have very extensive knowledge on how to make them operate.

Zayo used to be KMC Telco. And they're NOT the only provider of dark fiber in Toledo. L3 is here. So is Cogent. Buckeye and ATT has enough fiber they do not need to buy anyone else. ATT is always putting in more and Buckeye uses their fiber internally only.

Zayo also will just not splice and run a line to you. You actually have to be near them and they cater mostly to cell phone companies and UT. Fiber is starts at $1,000 PER foot NOT counting the internet loop cost.

But why only take this out on Buckeye? ATT has caps as well. The fact is some people do use more than others. It's been proven to that fact and those that don't will pay more by the capping system. Buckeye should have just started moving those higher usage customers over to business class. But they in turn even ruined that.

Register on here and PM me its free and we can discuss this more that way.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

install is about 10k for any fiber line as well. getting metro Ethernet would be cheaper- Toast.net used to do that to commercial buildings. Run Fiber to them and then sell it over Ethernet. Not sure if they still do as nothing is on their website about it.

And I mean- as in Dark Fiber has nothing on it. you just can't go and buy it and it work. Thus- not for regular public use. And by leasing dark fiber still will NOT get you anything- no access to the Internet on it. Investing in fiber actually is a good investment if you can get people to lease or buy strands on it. That is how L3 go to be what it is.

And no I mean it is TWC Land. It starts on McCord you can sign up with TWC and it was TWC land to start off with a LONG time ago under Adelphia- Buckeye later expanded to that area.

And no TWC is does not own Block. TWC owns TWC. And DSL is not serviced by Buckeye- and you can not get a 3rd party ISP to sell you cable.

And all DSL providers will resell ATT as they own the copper and always will. And actually soon- the copper will go away and it will be replaced with VARDs to kill off the Indie ISPs that resell the DSL.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

Also with Bedford it could be Frontier putting in FTTN (basically U-Verse) as they are trying this as well.



BEX_Slave

@buckeyecom.net
reply to 25139889

You that kyle person?

Anyway, don't know where you get you're information but TWC, has never been available in holland. I live on the east side of McCord right between Mccord and the US-23. My family has lived from before I was born.

TWC has never been available in Holland or to any people I know in this area. This has been buckeye's favorite monopoly area until 2 years ago when U-Verse started.

In the past 10 years, I have tried to leave Buckeye multiple times.

The closest TWC service area I could find is Oregon. I tried multiple Toledo Address in downtown. All west of the river. Maybe on the east side of Toledo you can get TWC. But you are totally incorrect about 'TWC land'


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

TWC is available. I have friends that live on McCord and they have a choice of TWC and Buckeye. Also there are always TWC trucks in that area working. TWC also used to have an office at the former school / common space building on Hill / Holland Sylv.

And what Kyle person?

And no I am not incorrect about it being TWC land. It was Adelphia land. It maybe select streets and areas but TWC does service that area. Also TWC NEVER serviced addresses IN the city. It's all outside of the City. And the service is mainly in Wood county.

And you need to actually talk to somene at TWC to find out the information. Regular reps don't know shit.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

Read this:

»www.com.ohio.gov/admn/docs/vsa_T···reas.pdf

that tells you were TWC Ohio has service:

LUCAS
Jerusalem Township
Monclova Township
Oregon
Providence Township
Springfield Township
Swanton Township
Swanton Village
Waterville Township
Waterville Village
Whitehouse Village

Now tell me they don't service that area.



BEX_Slave

@buckeyecom.net

Well I am in the housing area between Hill & Angola on McCord.
They told me they do not service the Holland area.

I called them the day I got the buckeye letter, and on the 28th when I upgraded my BEX package and signed a year contract.

They stated both times TWC was unavailable in my area and had no future plans to service this area. I asked.

Tell my why TWC would not want a another paying customer?

I shall call again tonight.
If they really do service 'SpringField Township', it doesn't include the east side of mccord. I have a Holland address and I pay Springfield taxes.

What do you mean talk to someone at TWC?? You mean going to the web page and calling the new customer line and trying to buy service is not enough? What more do I do?

Tell the rep she is a idiot and I want someone else to type my address on their computer?



BEX_Slave

@buckeyecom.net
reply to 25139889

I am not 100% sure, but that PDF appears to be just TWC's licensed areas.

Does not necessarily mean they service the area. They just have the Government 'Approval' (as the PDF title and header state?) to build there.

Ether way, I have never heard of TWC from my neighbors or even gotten spam mail or any type of offers; or anything that would suggest they are in this area. Ever, in 10 years of living here.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH

You need to talk to the Construction department. Also find a service van on the street. New Customer Line and Online is worthless and generally outsourced to another company. My friend that has both options lives on the side where Fox apartments is on.

And that PDF is not just licensed- those are SERVICED areas in terms of TWC. When the state went from Local regulation the cable cos started moving their contracts to the state.

Yesterday I seen another TWC truck out that way- and a few days before i seen on at Sam's Club. So they do service the area. More and more I see them on Dorr street but always looks like they're eating.

Have you tried talking to the TWP?


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

I'll post service areas of TWC in Toledo this evening.


25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to BEX_Slave

downloadtwc.zip 591,103 bytes
By putting ALL of the zipcodes in TWC's website for Toledo and suburbs I was able to locate areas that are serviced by TWC-

The images attached will give you the zipcode areas that are serviced.