 KommiePremium
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3 edits | [Caps] Caps vs. Metered Billing Split from this topic --> »[BW Meter] Comcast to Replace Usage Cap
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Somehow in Countries like South Korea and Japan caps are unheard of but yet we are all happy to see it here. |
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 JohnInSJPremium
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1 edit | said by Kommie:Somehow in Countries like South Korea and Japan caps are unheard of but yet we are all happy to see it here.
You could always move.
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KommiePremium
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1 edit | said by JohnInSJ:said by Kommie:Somehow in Countries like South Korea and Japan caps are unheard of but yet we are all happy to see it here.
You could always move. Whatever... |
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1 edit | What do you expect when there is little effective competition for wired HSI in most areas?
I think Comcast got a phone call from the FCC about the Xbox usage not counting against the caps (and that it pretty well invalidated the original justification for them), so metered billing is what we get instead when no one else can have access to the lines.
Mandated common carrier status is the only way out of this and has been used to great success in both Europe and Asia, but Congress blew this in 1996 and lobbyist money will make sure it never happens here. |
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I came from Southeast Asia...
There are no caps, metered and un-metered billing, prepaid cards etc....BUT speeds are way too slow compared to what we have here.
when I showed my friends on fb my speeds on comcast, they were all like HOLY S**T!
I'm very happy with what I have right now.... |
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| Yeah, but we're talking about Japan/Korea (east asia) not India (south asia) and vietnam/thailand (southeast asia) |
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 whfsdudePremium
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You could also use Sweden, the Netherlands, and Estonia as examples. |
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said by derp :Yeah, but we're talking about Japan/Korea (east asia) not India (south asia) and vietnam/thailand (southeast asia)
Singapore which has decent speeds and almost the same prices compared here doesn't have CAPS like we do. They have 6 ISP's which serves the whole SG. And they are in Southeast Asia.
what I am trying to drive at is that some countries do have decent speeds but ISP's may have implemented caps and vice versa. and some countries have mediocre internet but may or may not have caps. it's just the way how they want to run their business.
now, if you want, you can move and enjoy uncapped speeds for a good or decent price. OR you can stay and live with what you have. which OTHERS doesn't even have the luxury of getting internet at all. |
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BiggA
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If it's 300GB plus $10/50GB that's not bad. The only thing that really pisses me off is that they are not counting their XBOX VOD bandwidth.
Also, if they offer more speed with the metered billing, I'd take the speed over unlimited. |
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 NetFixerFrom my cold dead handsPremium
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| said by BiggA:If it's 300GB plus $10/50GB that's not bad. The only thing that really pisses me off is that they are not counting their XBOX VOD bandwidth...
OTOH, I believe that Comcast does require that you pay for a cable plan that includes VoD service, so Xbox users are not really getting some "free" benefit.
I don't have an Xbox , and I only pay for the lowest price basic cable service (I can't remember the last time that I actually sat down and watched a TV program), so I can't verify that assumption. Perhaps someone who does have an Xbox and who uses the Comcast Xbox video service can confirm/invalidate my assumption?
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| VOD normally runs over managed QAM, which is a closed system, not the internet. If they want to bundle it fine, but they should have to count it against bandwidth, since it causes congestion just like any other bandwidth usage, since the bandwidth issues are all at the edge, not the core. There is limited edge capacity, but the core is unlimited, since you can always just add more fiber. |
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| They don't count Xbox traffic against your allocated bandwidth, that's why it always gets a full rate stream where Netflix would be throttled if your line is maxed out. |
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| said by GTFan:They don't count Xbox traffic against your allocated bandwidth, that's why it always gets a full rate stream where Netflix would be throttled if your line is maxed out.
huh? This I doubt.
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they dont throttle. they warn you if you go past, even that depends. |
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BiggA
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said by JohnInSJ:said by GTFan:They don't count Xbox traffic against your allocated bandwidth, that's why it always gets a full rate stream where Netflix would be throttled if your line is maxed out.
huh? This I doubt. »ber.gd/post/23025893856/comcast-···tization |
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said by bandit8623:they dont throttle. they warn you if you go past, even that depends.
Not throttled by Comcast, throttled by the fact that you're out of bandwidth. I said if the line was maxed out Netflix would suffer but Xbox wouldn't, and that's what the linked post shows with the experiments that they conducted. Xbox gets its own 'lane of traffic' or bandwidth, whatever you prefer, but Netflix has to share.
Of course you could argue that Xbox is just another STB doing VOD which is no different than how U-Verse works with their IP STBs and Xbox - those flows don't count against caps either, but each one takes up a provisioned IPTV stream (which could be up to 4 for HD depending on how close you are to the VRAD). |
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| thats not called throttling, thats called overcongested lines. |
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 joetaxpayerI'M Here Till Thursday
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| said by bandit8623:thats not called throttling, thats called overcongested lines.
Throttling sounds right. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwidth_throttling |
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