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gordonw

join:2008-05-01
Norwood, MA
reply to jarablue

Re: Verizon upgrading FIOS tiers

Just upgraded to 50/25 tier. Activation suppose to take place Monday. Hoping its sooner, but do I need to reboot either my ONT or wireless router?


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
VZ should take care of all of the things necessary

vnephos

join:2012-06-22
Richmond, VA
reply to jarablue
I currently have 35/35 Flex Double with Ultimate HD TV for $114, moving to 50/25 indicates a price bump to $134. Does this sound correct?

Thanks!


sambo

@cityofwhittier.org
has anyone been able to get new tier plan but pay the same price if they talk to retention dept?


mig288
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Cherry Hill, NJ
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to Pepsiman
said by Pepsiman:

Because they need to run an Ethernet cable from the ONT to the router.

That makes sense. I wonder, would they run another ethernet cable to my second room upstairs? My wireless connection in the 2nd room doesn't get the best signal and running speed tests on that computer is showing slower speeds because of the weak signal. Any suggestions?

Raven313

join:2001-12-17
Crofton, MD
reply to jarablue
I got the speeds I was hoping for!

Raven313

join:2001-12-17
Crofton, MD
reply to vnephos
said by vnephos:

I currently have 35/35 Flex Double with Ultimate HD TV for $114, moving to 50/25 indicates a price bump to $134. Does this sound correct?

Thanks!

Shouldn't be that big a difference. Check to make sure Digital Voice didn't get added into that 2nd price.

guppy_fish
Premium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:3
reply to jarablue
I checked the upgrade center

My plan is now Prime for TV and the 50/25 for 99.99

114.99 would be Extreme and 50/20
134.99 would be Ultimate and 50/20

I don't have FDV anymore the above is double play pricing

jimboe

join:2000-08-14
New York
reply to jarablue
..so if your CO is BPON, what is the max speed supported?

Is it 50/25? or 75/35?

I'm seeing conflicting info on this.


Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:11
It depends on your ONT. Some models will only support up to the 50/25 package and they don't seem to be offering upgrades if GPON is not in your area. The other BPON ONTs seem to handle 75/35 well.
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mig288
Premium
join:2002-07-13
Cherry Hill, NJ
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to jarablue
 
 
FIOS installer just finished up installing ethernet.





kingdome74
Let's Go Orange
Premium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:5
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
reply to sambo
said by sambo :

has anyone been able to get new tier plan but pay the same price if they talk to retention dept?

In my case any move away from my 35/35 plan will cost me. What I thought was interesting is that I can move to 50/25 (I thought it was 20 but the woman insisted it was 25) and downgrade my TV package and it would still cost me 20 bucks more. I guess I'll stay a free agent.

Nice speeds, Mig.
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SL83

join:2005-05-28
Oceanside, NY
kudos:1
Yeah, if I switch to 3/1 internet from 35/35 it will cost me 15 bucks more.


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
It's weird how it's setup like that


kingdome74
Let's Go Orange
Premium
join:2002-03-27
Syracuse, NY
kudos:5
reply to SL83
Of course every area has it's own pricing so there's no general rule of thumb. Heck, even the speeds are seemingly random. There's are posters to the north a few blocks of me and south a few blocks and they can't get the same speeds I can.


Teasip

join:2001-05-14
Plano, TX
reply to jarablue
I was thinking about upgrading off my 15/5 and Prime package till I thought about it and realized that everything in the house is wireless thus limiting my speed to the throughput of the N wireless speed. Oh well....

guppy_fish
Premium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
said by Teasip:

I was thinking about upgrading off my 15/5 and Prime package till I thought about it and realized that everything in the house is wireless thus limiting my speed to the throughput of the N wireless speed. Oh well....

I can get 50mbs+ on my budget 25 dollar Cisco M20 "N" router I use as an AP, perfect for the 50/25 plan

Stevies3

join:2001-12-29
Woodbury, NY
reply to jarablue
Just updated today from 35/35 to 75/35. Took all but 10 minutes...


Teasip

join:2001-05-14
Plano, TX
reply to guppy_fish
OK, I guess the joke is on me. For whatever reason I was thinking that a wireless N network wouldn't be able to fully utilize the 50/25 speed package. For that matter, even after Googling the issue, I'm not sure what a realistic cap would be for the wireless N network.

guppy_fish
Premium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
kudos:3
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
Depends on "which" N you have

You have 20mhz and 40mhz channels
You have 2.4 and 5.8gz radios
You can have one to I believe I have seen 6 antennas

You can have connection/data rates from 65-300Mhz

At a connection/data rate of 75mhz, single 2.4ghz I was getting right at 50mps, this is the cheapest N router I could find, its on NewEgg for 25 bucks including shipping

Typically, the maximum data rates are ~60% of the connection rate, this is due to the forward error-correction protocols of wireless.

If you spend the money for dual radio and MIMO on BOTH the router and Client you can get into the 180mps rates in a quiet location ( no interference from other wireless networks )

They certainly don't make it easy for the consumer!

Cablefish

join:2002-01-19
Toms River, NJ
reply to Stevies3
Hmm. I placed my same order on Friday and I am set for Monday some time. Still at 35/35 now.


Chris123NT

join:2001-11-24
Nesconset, NY
said by Cablefish:

Hmm. I placed my same order on Friday and I am set for Monday some time. Still at 35/35 now.

Did you have to upgrade to digital voice at the same time as well? If so that will hold up the speed increase, it will take effect as soon as your phone is converted to DV. That's how it was for me.

Cablefish

join:2002-01-19
Toms River, NJ
Already have DV. I cycled the router just for laughs though. No change. I can wait.


Jackarino
YacCity
Premium
join:2006-12-28
Allendale, NJ
kudos:1
reply to Chris123NT
Any Internet change you make you must upgrade to digital voice. Vz won't let you keep freedom essentials

GratefulDude

join:2012-06-23
Plano, TX
reply to jarablue
I've currently got 35/35 and and want to upgrade, but I'm getting some conflicting info regarding the routers. My current router is the Actiontec Rev. C. We've got a lot of wireless devices, and I don't think they would benefit from an upgrade if I continue to use the same router. I've done the online chat with VZ three times and they all said that both the 75/35 and 150/65 plans would still use the Rev. C.... and that I'd have to pay for a new router if I wanted one. But when I try to do the online upgrade myself, there is a footnote on the 150/65 plan saying that a router fee is being waived. I know I could buy my own wireless "n" and hook it up to this old Actiontec, but I still think it'd be nice for them to throw in a router. For those that upgraded from 35/35, how did they handle the router?


Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
kudos:11
150/65 and 300/65 will definitely get you a new router (Rev I).

For 75/35, you don't need a new router. A few (one or two) people reported receiving one in the mail, but it's not normal procedure to send out a new one.

Even with a new router, if the majority of your devices are 802.11g (or b), you'll see no speed increase. You'd have to run a separate 802.11n network and have 802.11n devices to get the most out of it.
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Pepsiman

join:2002-01-18
Brooklyn, NY
reply to mig288
said by mig288:

said by Pepsiman:

Because they need to run an Ethernet cable from the ONT to the router.

That makes sense. I wonder, would they run another ethernet cable to my second room upstairs? My wireless connection in the 2nd room doesn't get the best signal and running speed tests on that computer is showing slower speeds because of the weak signal. Any suggestions?

I believe they only run one Ethernet cable to your main router.

GratefulDude

join:2012-06-23
Plano, TX
reply to Thinkdiff
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.

I think for us a switch to 802.11n is long overdue - almost all of our devices are 802.11n. Somehow every time I turn around there's a new device hooked up, and I guess I've kinda been asleep at the wheel and didn't notice that almost everything is now 802.11n.


Teasip

join:2001-05-14
Plano, TX
GratefulDude, I'm with you that for those of us in our locale we have too many options in obtaining what we need to upgrade unlike those who don't have immediate access to the BB's, Fry's, OD, Micro Center's etc., not to mention online availability. That's why I had been wondering where my speeds would cap out at running an N network at my home (at what point would the wireless bottleneck despite the actual download/upload) and would I be able to benefit from increasing from 15/5 to 50/25 since I have one of the original BPON/6xx ONT's that they deployed here. My CO off Legacy is still BPON best I can tell. My wife and I are still on the second 3g iPhones from years back so we have to allow for B/G wireless if we choose to utilize the network on our phones. As a result, I have my Airport Extreme set to N, but allowing for B/G which slows everything down.


QuaffAPint
A Big Thanks To The Troops

join:2001-01-10
Downingtown, PA
reply to jarablue
Everytime I go to the VZ website to upgrade it keeps giving me some error when I reach the upgrade screen and says to call local office - Is that what others are seeing?

I hate calling them and dealing with all their up sell.
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