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Streetlight

join:2005-11-07
Colorado Springs, CO

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[Caps] Neil Smit, Comcast CEO says ...

Neil Smit, CEO of Comcast, in an interview on CNBC today (5/21/12) said that the bandwidth before overage charges kick in is now 350 GigaBits

With a CEO who doesn't know the difference between bits and bytes, you gott'a wonder.

Oedipus

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Re: Neil Smit, Comcast CEO says ...

Or he's serious and knows that a ~45 gigabyte cap doesn't sound as impressive as 350 gigabits. Next time he should do it in kibibits so he can really blow our socks off. "WOW! 10,000 KIBIBIT CAP!"


gar187er
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Re: [Caps] Neil Smit, Comcast CEO says ...

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....
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nysports4evr
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said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

People will pick on anything.

medbuyer

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said by nysports4evr:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

People will pick on anything.

+1...m sure that was an error on his part....

JUST LIKE everybody commits mistakes....

Darknyt0

join:2004-02-01
Houston, TX
reply to Streetlight
I'd be curious to know if it was really a slip of the tongue or if really is so out of it to not know which one it is.

I disagree though, if you are going to act like it costs you so much to keep up bandwidth, you should at least not screw it up by a whole order.

Put another way, how many times do you think he says Trillion when he meant to say Billion?


gar187er
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hardly ever, cause he RUNS a company.....he oversees everything...he knows what i costs to run things....doesnt matter if its packets of data or packets of ketchup....he doesnt make it run, that what he has division/project managers for...
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Darknyt0

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But yet here he is, giving an interview and talking about packets of ketchup . . .

His division/project managers weren't much help there. If he is going to talk about it, he should know what he's talking about.

I'm not interested in hanging him for misspeaking. I'm curious if he really doesn't know how to talk about one of his main products.

It just makes him look stupid and out of touch. I don't know if he really is.


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reply to gar187er
said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

I disagree. Do you think the CEO of BP or Chevron shouldn't be bothered to know the difference between a barrel and a gallon?

This is a core aspect of his company's product. It is something he needs to know.


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said by C_Chipperson:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

I disagree. Do you think the CEO of BP or Chevron shouldn't be bothered to know the difference between a barrel and a gallon?

This is a core aspect of his company's product. It is something he needs to know.

No it's not.

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nanobibit

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reply to Streetlight
said by Streetlight:

Neil Smit, CEO of Comcast, in an interview on CNBC today (5/21/12) said that the bandwidth before overage charges kick in is now 350 GigaBits

With a CEO who doesn't know the difference between bits and bytes, you gott'a wonder.

And how many people here on this forum misuse the term "bandwidth"?

neufuse

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how many people in the network community understand bandwidth is litteary the width of the RF spectrum band you are using?... everytime I hear bandwidth people around here use it as speed, not now wide the band is.... always bugged me!...


gar187er
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said by C_Chipperson:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

I disagree. Do you think the CEO of BP or Chevron shouldn't be bothered to know the difference between a barrel and a gallon?

This is a core aspect of his company's product. It is something he needs to know.

normal people know what gallon is...ask them what a megabit is, and they will probably say its a new transformer.....

of course everyone on a tech message knows, but can you operate the largest ISP and the 3rd largest telephone company with a revenue of over 50 BILLION dollars!?

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Streetlight

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said by neufuse:

how many people in the network community understand bandwidth is litteary the width of the RF spectrum band you are using?... everytime I hear bandwidth people around here use it as speed, not now wide the band is.... always bugged me!...

The thing about language is that words can have different meanings depending on the context in which they are used. My professional career has been in the area of high resolution magnetic resonance spectroscopy and the bandwidth of an NMR spectral feature is usually defined as the width of the absorption "line" at half-height usually in units of Hz. NMR spectral absorptions are ideally Lorenzian, but deviations from ideality can indicate the rate of certain time dependent phenomena. In optical spectroscopy, a similar definition is used, but the units are in wavelength units and sometimes reciprocal wavelenths, i.e. IR spectroscopy. Such features are usually Gaussian. Again, changes in the bandwidth of an optical spectral feature can indicate the nature of certain physical phenomena associated with the species absorbing or emitting light.

The key to understanding the context of a word like bandwidth is the units added to the numbers. In these forums, bandwidth could represent the speed of signal transmission with units of Mega-bits per second or Mega-Bytes per second. It could also mean the amount of data that can be transmitted with units such as Mega-Bytes of Giga-Bytes. It should be made unambiguously clear by authors in these forums in what context a word is used and apply proper units to any numbers reported or discussed.

There also seems to be some different expressions used for Internet bandwidth units. I've seen Mbs for megabytes per second instead of a more proper Mb/s. Likewise MBs for MB/s. There's also confusion between the use of k and K for 1,000 and/or 1024. I think k should be exactly 1,000 and K should be 1024. The difference between M and m is more obvious: M for mega, m for milli. However, does M mean exactly 1 million or 2^20 = 1,048,576? Similar confusion exists for G for giga. The hard drive makers tell you what they mean. I'm not sure about other situations.
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lolBSalert

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CEOs...or any public figure that freely speaks out of their butt and demonstrates their ignorance deserves to be held accountable for it.


gar187er
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if the profits are rolling in do people(or cnbc) really care?
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Robotics
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reply to neufuse
+1


C_Chipperson
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reply to gar187er
said by gar187er:

said by C_Chipperson:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

I disagree. Do you think the CEO of BP or Chevron shouldn't be bothered to know the difference between a barrel and a gallon?

This is a core aspect of his company's product. It is something he needs to know.

normal people know what gallon is...ask them what a megabit is, and they will probably say its a new transformer.....

of course everyone on a tech message knows, but can you operate the largest ISP and the 3rd largest telephone company with a revenue of over 50 BILLION dollars!?

normal people know what a gallon is? how many gallons in a cubic foot? did you have to google it?

Normal people think a megabit is a new transformer?


gar187er
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yea cause when i go to the gas station i buy my gas by cubic ft....

hes a CEO....EXECUTIVE OFFICER!!! not OPERATIONS OFFICER....if the COO said that i would agree hes a moron....but a ceo need not know the differance between MBps or Mbps......
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pclover

join:2008-08-02
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reply to Streetlight
He could say 2937 GigaBits

I would love to have 350 Gbps of bandwidth tho lol


joetaxpayer
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reply to Streetlight
If you google [pete sessions trillion] you find a senator debating the healthcare law. He states it will cost $500 trillion which is about $1.5 million for every man, woman and child in the US. I'm thinking he meant billion. I am pretty nit picky about these things, and notice when the TV talking heads mis-speak.
I trust this guy know a bit from a byte, and simply mis-spoke.
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zGunBLADEz

join:2012-05-24
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Re: [Caps] Neil Smit, Comcast CEO says ...

Like in our case numbers dont mean the same..

1 billion = 1 thousand million
1 trillion = 1 billion

»www.enchantedlearning.com/langua···0s.shtml


joetaxpayer
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Understood.
A US senator would know that in the US a Trillion has 12 zeros most days.

Although with tech overtaking the world. I proposed the 9 zeros is called a Gigabuck, and 12 zeros Terabuck, as in "Our National Debt is now over 15 Terabucks."


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reply to gar187er
said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

If he's the head of a company like Comcast he better darn well know, especially considering his pay.


C_Chipperson
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said by RR Conductor:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

If he's the head of a company like Comcast he better darn well know, especially considering his pay.

Exactly.

AVonGauss
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said by C_Chipperson:

Exactly... why is this concept so hard for gar187er See Profile to grasp..

Someone misspeaks on a television interview, and we get an entire 2 page thread here about it.

That aside, let's just pretend the CEO doesn't have a clue about the difference between a gigabyte and a gigabit. Do you really think that is a performance criteria that the board looks at to determine the CEO's performance? If the CEO of Comcast has to get to that level of detail personally, I'm going back to DSL.
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Clever_Proxy
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Re: [Caps] Neil Smit, Comcast CEO says ...

said by C_Chipperson:

said by gar187er:

cause thats something a CEO needs to know.....

I disagree. Do you think the CEO of BP or Chevron shouldn't be bothered to know the difference between a barrel and a gallon?

This is a core aspect of his company's product. It is something he needs to know.

Agree!!! Of course the CEO isn't going to understand how every aspect of their network works, but because of the data caps and how much they are affecting his customers, this is important for him to know.