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dubz

join:2002-12-19
San Ramon, CA
reply to cypherstream

Re: [X1] Xfinity TV on X1 Platform and X1 Remote Control App!

i Just wrote a damn paragraph 5min ago and its not show up on this thread! Round Deuce: I live in San Ramon CA. and Comcast is scheduled to install X1 dvrs and reg X1 HD box in my padd next week! Happy to finally have a nice guide and a fkn DVR! Anyways just a heads up.

I think you have to be a triple play subscriber to qualify for da X1 .. not sure tho!


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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reply to aguiar0016
With DirecTV I have the default "hide sd duplicates" option. To tell you the truth, I never miss the SD equivelent. 90% of what we watch is HD and if something is pillarboxed or stretched I really don't care. Point is DirecTV overcompresses SD so poorly that stretched upconverted hd feeds looks 100 times better. Yeah really!

More cable companies are slowly starting to offer AutoHD. It started with Cablevision but now Rogers offers it and so does Time Warner in their Navigator software. SARA 1.92 and newer,Rovi Passport 5.5 / Echo 3.5 and newer support it as does TWC ODN. I think that just leaves out idiotGuide eh- I mean iGuide. Does TiVo have this feature?

aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
New Bedford, MA
reply to cypherstream
That is correct it is nice feature, only downside that if the channel isn't broadcasting in HD you can't change over to the SD channel with the feature on.

dishrich

join:2006-05-12
Springfield, IL
reply to SpHeRe31459
said by SpHeRe31459:

I still think it's crazy that more TV providers haven't just adopted the model that Dish has...

DirecTV does the same

SpHeRe31459
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join:2002-10-09
Sacramento, CA
kudos:2
reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream:

But it does do Auto-HD from what I saw. Like the channels in the 800's or 1000's wouldn't really be needed because if you type in '10' it will show it in HD if available.

That's a major plus, most people I know (especially older folks) don't even know/care/can't remember the HD channel equivalent, and so end up watching the SD version.

I still think it's crazy that more TV providers haven't just adopted the model that Dish has where the channels are literally the same number, so you won't get confused and/or forget the HD version's number. Their boxes tune to the correct version given your set-top box capabilities and/or TV setup preferences on the box.

With everything on Comcast's network being digital now anyway all the "channels" are in a virtual channel table map anyway, so it's entirely arbitrary what number is used in the guide.


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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reply to aguiar0016
But it does do Auto-HD from what I saw. Like the channels in the 800's or 1000's wouldn't really be needed because if you type in '10' it will show it in HD if available.

aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
New Bedford, MA
reply to mikedz4
No all channels still show up on the guide. I don't think that will change b/c that way a customer can see the other channels available and hopefully subscribe to them.


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to rrlover
I thought the x1 was going to allow people to block channels they don't subscribe to like satellite services do?


rrlover

join:2001-03-25
Marlborough, CT
reply to gate1975mlm
Spoke to Comcast about upgrading to X1 and was told it is available in CT and I need a truck role. Cost is $31.50 @ box which would be an almost $100 software upgrade. I said no thank you and will wait until a promo and/or free upgrade in the future.


telcodad
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join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
reply to gate1975mlm
FYI - An article on the FierceCable site yesterday with the latest news on Comcast's plans for a network DVR, which looks to be integrated into the X1 platform:

Comcast recruiting architect to build network DVR
By Steve Donohue, FierceCable - February 26, 2013
»www.fiercecable.com/story/comcas···13-02-26

justmeee

join:2013-02-11
Los Angeles, CA
reply to JeepMatt
Can you set up favorite channels? I found some forum on another site that said it's not easy but it can be done.


JeepMatt
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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reply to justmeee
Justmeee-

Yep! Works perfect w/ my Harmony 1. I didn't even have to update any settings from the old DVR.
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justmeee

join:2013-02-11
Los Angeles, CA
reply to gate1975mlm
I'm supposed to get the X1 installed tomorrow. Is there a basic option to just list favorites as opposed to all channels? That would be one feature I would really miss that on my Motorola DVR.

Also, I've noticed that the X1 remote uses RF frequencies. I'm gathering from other posts that it will work fine with a Harmony 1 remote, but can anyone confirm this?

Thanks.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to mikedz4
said by mikedz4:

when can I possibly get the x1 box and guide here in the pittsburgh area?

»forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···/1557105


JeepMatt
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Wilmington, DE
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reply to Mike Wolf
Just found my answer in the other thread...nm....


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to gate1975mlm
when can I possibly get the x1 box and guide here in the pittsburgh area?

SpHeRe31459
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join:2002-10-09
Sacramento, CA
kudos:2
reply to psujim
said by psujim:

So, what you are saying is eventually (the key word) the new guide experience will be on the DCX3400 without switching out to the X1 box?

Correct. That is the end goal. Older boxes will be iGuide, but newer more capable boxes like the Motorola DCX series will get the X1 Guide Software.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to Russ6
Hey Russ would be nice if someone would supply us with specific model numbers but Comcast seems tight lipped.


psujim

join:2007-10-10
Reading, PA
reply to Russ6
said by Russ6:

A30 is the current upgrade in the Motorola STB area.

S26 is the current upgrade in the SA/Cisco STB area.

These guides will be the legacy guide in their respective STB areas for STBs that won't support the X1 Guide. The X1 guide is the next major guide for both Motorola and SA/Cisco STB areas. It will run on newer Motorola DCX STBs and Cisco RNG STBs. It is based on Tru2way protocols and the guide is displayed in 16:9 resolution.

The X1 Experience is the eventual goal for all of Comcast's high-end cable boxes regardless of geography or existing plant infrastructure.

So, what you are saying is eventually (the key word) the new guide experience will be on the DCX3400 without switching out to the X1 box?


telcodad
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join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:15
reply to telcodad
According to this blog item in the Denver Post today, Comcast has announced that it will launch the X1 next in Colorado Springs, "ahead of its release in the larger Denver market":

Comcast launches next-gen X1 set-top box in Colorado Springs, the new pay-TV battleground
By Andy Vuong, The Denver Post - January 30, 2013
»blogs.denverpost.com/techknowbyt···nd/8041/

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream:

Russ-

I know its tru2way, but you list 7 states have 2.0 but yet there's not one single youtube clip of it, online review, or a user on here posting screen shots and comments, questions or concerns.

I just think your lucky if 0.00000005% of customers have it - AT ALL. I mean there's just ZERO online presence of it (besides Comcast's nice instruction website on it and Ted Hodgekins posts).

2.0 - the guide Comcast forgot...

Yet there's quite a few X1 youtube clips and reviews popping up. Kinda weird if you ask me.

I agree that On-Screen Guide 2.0 is in limited use. It only works in 6 states and only with SA/Cisco STBs in those states and Comcast only allows it to be used with AnyRoom DVR functionality, which further limits its use. About 80% of Comcast customers use Motorola and it is not available on Motorola STBs.
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Cisco RNG 200N & SA 8300 HD DVRs-S26 Guide
Links
'Guide Blog'
'Schedule'
'Info'
'Patch Thread'


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to Russ6
Russ-

I know its tru2way, but you list 7 states have 2.0 but yet there's not one single youtube clip of it, online review, or a user on here posting screen shots and comments, questions or concerns.

I just think your lucky if 0.00000005% of customers have it - AT ALL. I mean there's just ZERO online presence of it (besides Comcast's nice instruction website on it and Ted Hodgekins posts).

2.0 - the guide Comcast forgot...

Yet there's quite a few X1 youtube clips and reviews popping up. Kinda weird if you ask me.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to cypherstream
I don't think its a firmware update, I think it's a software function that allows the drives to spin down instead of sending a constant-on ping or something. I know Western Digital's internal hard drives and DVR Expander drives have a 10 minute auto spin down built into the drive firmware (from what their tier 2 tech support told me yesterday) I've read online that when the S25 software was first installed on the 8300HD and RNG200N set tops the hard drive would spin up and spin down every ten minutes. »SA 8300HD - new guide & drive keeps spinning up/down
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Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream:

HD spin down sounds more like a firmware function than a Guide function.

It's a shame they are skipping 2.0. We saw glimpses of it at CES in 2008 and it is the biggest vaporware since Duke Nukem Forever.

It looks like an easier transition from 2.0 to 3.0. Seems like nice software. Maybe they could sell it to other smaller cable operators.

I'm glad I left this outfit long ago. Seems still to this day the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. At least with DirecTV we get regular software updates. I'll enjoy poster art, Pandora and high res graphics while Comcasters are stuck in the Stone Age. Nothing seems to motivate Comcast. At least a lot of my wants and wishlist ideas were (or are) being implemented with DirecTV thanks to the CE (cutting edge) program.

On-Screen Guide 2.0 is in use on Comcast's newest Cisco cable boxes (both the Cisco RNG 200N and Cisco RNG 150N) via a different and newer protocol and technology (called OCAP or tru2way) when AnyRoom DVR functionality is used.

This new guide experience is currently available in the areas listed below where Comcast uses SA/Cisco-branded cable boxes:

Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana, and Minnesota.
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Cisco RNG 200N & SA 8300 HD DVRs-S26 Guide
Links
'Guide Blog'
'Schedule'
'Info'
'Patch Thread'


cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3
reply to Mike Wolf
HD spin down sounds more like a firmware function than a Guide function.

It's a shame they are skipping 2.0. We saw glimpses of it at CES in 2008 and it is the biggest vaporware since Duke Nukem Forever.

It looks like an easier transition from 2.0 to 3.0. Seems like nice software. Maybe they could sell it to other smaller cable operators.

I'm glad I left this outfit long ago. Seems still to this day the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. At least with DirecTV we get regular software updates. I'll enjoy poster art, Pandora and high res graphics while Comcasters are stuck in the Stone Age. Nothing seems to motivate Comcast. At least a lot of my wants and wishlist ideas were (or are) being implemented with DirecTV thanks to the CE (cutting edge) program.


owlyn
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join:2004-06-05
Newtown, PA
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reply to Russ6
said by Russ6:

said by Mike Wolf:

There is going to be some sort of update to Motorola equipment to bring in an automatic spin down feature on the hard drive when it's idle for an extended period of time this year I don't know if it will be in a whole new update like A31 or if it will just be a revisional update like A30 1.0 »forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···9#M64269, as well as the enabling of the eSATA port for external hard drives mentioned in the near future.

A30 enables the eSATA port, see »Re: DVR Extender w/Moto Boxes

A30 does not automatically enable the eSATA port. A30 is required before the eSATA port can be enabled, which is a separate rollout. Two different things.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4
reply to Russ6
ah ok cool. so then its just a question of the method to bring the spin down feature to the Motorola software.

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to Mike Wolf
said by Mike Wolf:

There is going to be some sort of update to Motorola equipment to bring in an automatic spin down feature on the hard drive when it's idle for an extended period of time this year I don't know if it will be in a whole new update like A31 or if it will just be a revisional update like A30 1.0 »forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···9#M64269, as well as the enabling of the eSATA port for external hard drives mentioned in the near future.

A30 enables the eSATA port, see »Re: DVR Extender w/Moto Boxes
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Cisco RNG 200N & SA 8300 HD DVRs-S26 Guide
Links
'Guide Blog'
'Schedule'
'Info'
'Patch Thread'


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:4

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reply to cypherstream
There is going to be some sort of update to Motorola equipment to bring in an automatic spin down feature on the hard drive when it's idle for an extended period of time this year I don't know if it will be in a whole new update like A31 or if it will just be a revisional update like A30 1.0 »forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···9#M64269, as well as the enabling of the eSATA port for external hard drives mentioned in the near future.

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to cypherstream
said by cypherstream:

You think A30 is the last version of I-Guide in the form that it looks today? It's about time they sunset that ugly thing and put 2.0 on older gear.

Can't find a video of 2.0 anywhere. Must be a real RARE installation. Curious if it has any personally going from screen to screen like X1.

I thought A28 was the last version until Comcast came out with A30 last Fall. It might depend on how long it takes Comcast to make a X1 Guide for Motorola STBs and if there are any najor bugs that need to be fixed or new features that Comcast wants to add to A30.

On-Screen Guide 2.0 will not be deployed in the Motorola STB areas or any new SA/Cisco STB areas. They will skip it and go directly to the X1 Guide.
--
Cisco RNG 200N & SA 8300 HD DVRs-S26 Guide
Links
'Guide Blog'
'Schedule'
'Info'
'Patch Thread'