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JeepMatt
C'mon the U
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join:2001-12-28
Wilmington, DE
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reply to mikedz4

Re: [X1] Xfinity TV on X1 Platform and X1 Remote Control App!

said by mikedz4:

Any information on western Pennsylvania area with the x1?

Seeing it was to be released here in DE/PA in September, i'd say they are behind schedule...and seeing that the P'burgh area wasn't even previously mentioned, I'd say you're probably well into 2013 for your area Mike.

But, also nice to hear they are integrating Anyroom DVR w/ the X1 platform now. At least the delays are for a good reason.

And the RNG 150 boxes are the Moto boxes I have now as part of the Anyroom setup, so it'd be logical sense.

aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
New Bedford, MA

For us they had the anyroom with the moto 34XX M boxes. ( i think that is the number) not the RNG ones. So different boxes for us here.


aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
New Bedford, MA
reply to aguiar0016

Correction Any room DVR is not being offered. Comcast is calling it Whole House , which is basically allowing customers to have the X1 guide on all tv's in the house with the new boxes.

Sorry for the confusion


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22
Reviews:
·Comcast

2 edits
reply to FifthE1ement

So let me get this straight - I am a Comcast Double Play customer in the Atlanta area. I have Blast Internet and Preferred TV using a DCX 3501(RNG200N).
If I want the new X1 guide then I have to upgrade to a Triple-Play package and receive a new box?
Why is Comcast incapable of pushing the X1 guide to my DCX3501? There should be no reason for Comcast to do a truck roll. Why should I have upgrade to a package that consists of a phone service that I have no use for. I do not need a landline telephone, or VOIP... I should not have to incur additional cost each month for a service that I do not need because Comcast can not push a guide to a capable box. My patience is wearing very thin. I am so close to pulling the plug and go back to DirecTv.


The Q

join:2008-06-26
Collegeville, PA

below from the comcast voices blog, september 24 entry, I imagine it is similar with X1....

»blog.comcast.com/2010/05/new-gui···xes.html

The new On-Screen Guide 2.0 is delivered to our newest cable boxes (both the Cisco RNG 200N and Cisco RNG 150N) via a different and newer protocol and technology (called OCAP or tru2way). The Cisco RNG boxes that you have in your home today are not assigned to the tru2way mode and can't be easily flipped or changed into that mode and preserve the current DVR recordings, favorites and other user configurable settings which would be an unfavorable customer experience.


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 edit

Let me see if I understand the comment above-
Comcast will not push the X1 guide to my cable box because they do not want for me to loose all of my recordings and settings. But, they will swap my box w/ the old guide + my recordings for a new box with the X1 guide that has neither my recordings or settings....

"
The new On-Screen Guide 2.0 is delivered to our newest cable boxes (both the Cisco RNG 200N and Cisco RNG 150N) via a different and newer protocol and technology (called OCAP or tru2way). The Cisco RNG boxes that you have in your home today are not assigned to the tru2way mode and can't be easily flipped or changed into that mode and preserve the current DVR recordings, favorites and other user configurable settings which would be an unfavorable customer experience. "


The Q

join:2008-06-26
Collegeville, PA

I think the X1 cable box receives the data and maybe even the video differently than the DCX 3501 does today. That is my guess as to why the new X1 guide can't be easily pushed to a box that is already in the home. They are using all new boxes for X1, I think from Pace.


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22
Reviews:
·Comcast

I just got off the phone with a very nice lady in the Comcast call center. I called inquiring about upgrading to an X1 box. She put me on hold for several minutes to research the offers that were available to my area. After a several minutes she returned and informed me that the X1 box is available to me but only if I upgrade to the $199 Triple Play package. The $199 was good for 12 months and the rate would be $219 or something. My train of thought was derailed when she quoted me $199. I told her no thank you. She told me that the X1 boxes were not available to Double Play customers in my area, but only to people upgrading to Triple Play since Comcast phone service is in low demand in my area. I guess they are forcing people to subscribe to phone service in order to upgrade to the X1. I think that I am going to setup a DirecTv install for this weekend....I am tired of the 1990 style IGUide.


kb1

join:2008-11-15
South Bend, IN

said by turnerbrewer:

I just got off the phone with a very nice lady in the Comcast call center. I called inquiring about upgrading to an X1 box. She put me on hold for several minutes to research the offers that were available to my area. After a several minutes she returned and informed me that the X1 box is available to me but only if I upgrade to the $199 Triple Play package. The $199 was good for 12 months and the rate would be $219 or something. My train of thought was derailed when she quoted me $199. I told her no thank you. She told me that the X1 boxes were not available to Double Play customers in my area, but only to people upgrading to Triple Play since Comcast phone service is in low demand in my area. I guess they are forcing people to subscribe to phone service in order to upgrade to the X1. I think that I am going to setup a DirecTv install for this weekend....I am tired of the 1990 style IGUide.

You mentioned you had Directv before. Did you notice any difference in HD picture quality between Comcast and Directv?

turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22
Reviews:
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The HD quality on DirecTV was excellent.
The HD on Comcast has been hit or miss.
Comcast broadcasts its HD at 1080i.
Comcast SD is better than DirecTv SD...
Sometimes the HD signal on Comcast looks good, other times it is ok...
The HD quality of Comcast HD OnDemand is terrible...
My Comcast signal strength is excellent.


lorennerol
Premium
join:2003-10-29
Seattle, WA

1 edit
reply to gate1975mlm

I'm getting weary of long-time customers getting second-rate treatment by Comcast. I just got done taking another look at DirecTV.

- The price, after the discounts run out, is about the same.
- The signal is MPEG4, 1080p for the HD channels. My projector upscales to 4k, but only from a 1080p signal, so that little 'p' is important to me.
- They have a five-tuner whole house DVR. And guess what? Any customer can get it, you just have to pay for it. And you can get it online- no waiting in two-hour lines at a Comcast store 30 miles away only to find out they are out of the current boxes and can only give out 10 year old STBs today. "But you can come back tomorrow and check again!"

I've had Comcast cable for 20+ years (since back in the ATT/ATTBI days), but I'm now losing patience and running out of reasons to stick with them. Too much foot-dragging and relying on their municipal monopolies.


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22

1 edit

lorennerol, I'll 2nd that.



FifthE1ement
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join:2005-03-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

said by turnerbrewer:

lorennerol, I'll 2nd that.

I'll 3rd that too!
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lorennerol
Premium
join:2003-10-29
Seattle, WA

Forgot to include that DirecTV doesn't require that I sign up for their phone and Internet service to get the latest STB hardware.

Can you imagine going into the local appliance store to buy a washing machine and being told you can only buy one if you also buy a new refrigerator and oven as well?

Yes, I know Comcast doesn't require up-front payment for CPE, but I've paid for these clunky old boxes many times over already, and if that's really the sticking point, then just add an option to purchase them, in addition to the traditional rental model. This seems to work okay with cable modems on the residential Internet service side.


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22

I forgot to mention that Comcast wanted $65 dollars to install the X1 Triple Play Package.



JeepMatt
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Wilmington, DE
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Well since i live local to Philly, talked with a buddy the other night that works in the CC tower - sounds like ALOT of issues with the X1 software.

Figuring I beta'd the FIOS TV software for 1 year before the general public got it - I think we should all stick to looking forward to the A30 I-Guide update. Rolling out STB software appears to be quite the triumph these days..


Joe12345678

join:2003-07-22
Des Plaines, IL
reply to lorennerol

and in Canada you have the option to purchase the cable boxes.



mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV
reply to JeepMatt

just go read the thread about the x1 on the comcast user forums nothing but complaints.



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

said by mikedz4:

just go read the thread about the x1 on the comcast user forums nothing but complaints.

This thread, right?
»forums.comcast.com/t5/XfinityTV-···e#M54467

lorennerol
Premium
join:2003-10-29
Seattle, WA
reply to gate1975mlm

So I currently have three HD DVRs and one HD receiver in the house. It looks like we're paying Comcast about $30 more per month that I'd be paying DirecTV for their five-tuner DVR, three receivers, better HD quality, and a whole lot more channels, AFTER the two years of discounts ran out.

Aside from the hassle of switching and losing some saved recordings, I'm plum out of reasons to keep chugging long with Comcast.

Anyone see anything I'm missing here??



cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

said by lorennerol:

So I currently have three HD DVRs and one HD receiver in the house. It looks like we're paying Comcast about $30 more per month that I'd be paying DirecTV for their five-tuner DVR, three receivers, better HD quality, and a whole lot more channels, AFTER the two years of discounts ran out.

Aside from the hassle of switching and losing some saved recordings, I'm plum out of reasons to keep chugging long with Comcast.

Anyone see anything I'm missing here??

Nope and if you want to save $10 a month DirecTV for 10 months, we can do refer-a-friend. If truly interested PM me. We both would get that $100 value in bill credits.

My first child is coming soon and I could use all the help I could get. I'm in an unfortunate single income situation right now.

Russ6

join:2011-03-17
Houston, TX
kudos:1
reply to lorennerol

If you have Comcast Internet and decide to keep it, that cost will probably go up. You might still save enough money to make changing worth it.


kb1

join:2008-11-15
South Bend, IN
reply to cypherstream

said by cypherstream:

said by lorennerol:

So I currently have three HD DVRs and one HD receiver in the house. It looks like we're paying Comcast about $30 more per month that I'd be paying DirecTV for their five-tuner DVR, three receivers, better HD quality, and a whole lot more channels, AFTER the two years of discounts ran out.

Aside from the hassle of switching and losing some saved recordings, I'm plum out of reasons to keep chugging long with Comcast.

Anyone see anything I'm missing here??

Nope and if you want to save $10 a month DirecTV for 10 months, we can do refer-a-friend. If truly interested PM me. We both would get that $100 value in bill credits.

My first child is coming soon and I could use all the help I could get. I'm in an unfortunate single income situation right now.

cypherstream,

Did you notice a difference in HD picture quality between Comcast and Directv? Also, is there any lag when changing channels with Directv?


cypherstream
Premium,MVM
join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
kudos:3

kb1,

In my opinion I would say that the HD picture quality is better than Comcast. SD picture quality is worse, but HD has much less macroblocking and artifacting, especially during fast motion and around logo's. They are rolling out new encoders (I think manufactured by Erricson) which are more efficient than the older ones. It's MPEG4 so it takes less Mbps to transmit a comparable MPEG2 picture quality. Also less Mbps translates to more efficient storage on the DVR's hard drive. That's great if you have the standard 500GB Hard Drive, but even the Genie DVR has 1TB drive. I'm surpised Comcast's DVR's offer so little space, especially the fact they have to store MPEG2 transport streams (higher bitrate than MPEG4 transport streams).

The latest HD channels on DirecTV like BBC America and DIY are my favorites. I have to say the picture quality is excellent. I only really watch HD and I have SD duplicates hidden from the guide (it's the default). DIY is channel 230 for example, so if i type in 230 or scroll to it, I automatically see it in HD. That's REALLY cool IMO. Now when the in-laws come to visit, they are watching HD. Before with Cable they would always put the wrong channel on since cable operators have that wacky channel numbering scheme with HD content hidden way high up in the guide that people don't even make it up that far when browsing.



cypherstream
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Reading, PA
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reply to kb1

kb1,

It's true with any Sat provider, there is some lag when changing channels. It's the nature of the technology. Digital TV was slower than Analog TV in channel surfing, and Satellite is a little slower due to the receiver communicating with the dish telling it what sat to tune, what transponder frequency, polarity, and the sat tells the receiver what frequency it downconverts on. Then the receiver gets the stream and has to separate the program stream from it and run it through the decoder.

I would say channel to channel your looking at 2 - 3 seconds. I haven't old school channel surfed in awhile though. With so many channels, even with cable I normally would bring up the guide and browse it. I find something I like in the guide and tune to it and thats that.

Do I miss the old days of analog TV when the Jerrold cable boxes were milliseconds between channel changes? Sure. But that technology and A/V quality was so dated and there was little capacity for everything we have out there today.


turnerbrewer

join:2011-11-22

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Comcast this is what a proper HD Channel Guide looks like-

»www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.···id=82022



markofmayhem
Why not now?
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join:2004-04-08
Pittsburgh, PA
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said by turnerbrewer:

Comcast this is what a proper HD Channel Guide looks like-

»www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.···id=82022

Yuck, there are no advertisements!
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lorennerol
Premium
join:2003-10-29
Seattle, WA
reply to lorennerol

said by lorennerol:

Aside from the hassle of switching and losing some saved recordings, I'm plum out of reasons to keep chugging long with Comcast.

Anyone see anything I'm missing here??

Done. Pulled the trigger. Five tuner DVR, three satellites/minis, install tomorrow, $80 less/month for than Comcast for the first year.


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:5
reply to JeepMatt

said by JeepMatt:

said by mikedz4:

Any information on western Pennsylvania area with the x1?

Seeing it was to be released here in DE/PA in September, i'd say they are behind schedule...and seeing that the P'burgh area wasn't even previously mentioned, I'd say you're probably well into 2013 for your area Mike.

Here's the latest info on the X1 deployment schedule, taken from an article (»www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable) on the Light Reading Cable site today:
X1 update
Comcast has launched its next-gen video service, X1, in four markets (Atlanta and Augusta, Ga.; Boston; and Chattanooga, Tenn.), with two "major markets" set to launch in the next couple of weeks, said Neil Smit, president and CEO.
:
Comcast isn't identifying where X1 is going next, but Denver and the company's Freedom Region -- a cluster of systems that serve greater Philadelphia, New Jersey and northern Delaware -- are among the markets that could be next in line.


mikedz4

join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV

where does this put pittsburgh?