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Aranarth_t

join:2012-05-03
reply to cowboyro

Re: [XPHome] Xp home activation issues... crack?

said by cowboyro:

Cracked, fixed. Killed WGA, computer is usable.
Pirating a legit install beats trying to fix through the proper channels.

That's exactly what I would have done.

Although Razzy and everyone else is right, if you intend to keep the machine, import your old email into a pst file, make a couple of backups, and format and reinstall windows on this machine.

This machine could be used for all kinds of cool things, proxy server, file server, old games machine, webbrowsing, etc.


Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Germantown, OH
kudos:2
reply to cowboyro

said by cowboyro:

Double-checked and triple-checked with MS, they say the key is correct. Can't get to anything, all it wants is to activate.

From what I've seen, if MS reports the key as a valid one but their system won't accept it during activation, they'll give you a "new" key without hesitation. Strange that they won't in this situation....


cowboyro
Premium
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT

said by Hall:

said by cowboyro:

Double-checked and triple-checked with MS, they say the key is correct. Can't get to anything, all it wants is to activate.

From what I've seen, if MS reports the key as a valid one but their system won't accept it during activation, they'll give you a "new" key without hesitation. Strange that they won't in this situation....

That may have been the case in the past. However they claimed that a system diagnostic is required first, and since XP is out of support it's a paid service.
Much like going to the dealer to change the oil and the dealer breaks the engine in the process... and then asks for money because the car is out of warranty.

I've had 0 issues re-activating in the past... even after exceeding the 10 activations/key limit (MSDN).


Razzy12345

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said by cowboyro:

said by Hall:

said by cowboyro:

Double-checked and triple-checked with MS, they say the key is correct. Can't get to anything, all it wants is to activate.

From what I've seen, if MS reports the key as a valid one but their system won't accept it during activation, they'll give you a "new" key without hesitation. Strange that they won't in this situation....

That may have been the case in the past. However they claimed that a system diagnostic is required first, and since XP is out of support it's a paid service.
Much like going to the dealer to change the oil and the dealer breaks the engine in the process... and then asks for money because the car is out of warranty.

I've had 0 issues re-activating in the past... even after exceeding the 10 activations/key limit (MSDN).

Hi you didn't answer my question about the System Properties.. did you confirm does that string has OEM in it?


cowboyro
Premium
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT

said by Razzy12345 :

Hi you didn't answer my question about the System Properties.. did you confirm does that string has OEM in it?

It had OEM in it...
Only plausible explanation I have is that some Dell-specific files were altered.

Aranarth_t

join:2012-05-03

Yep I'd run with that.

I have seen Dell oem xp cd's that only work on specific lines of machines but for the most part they will work.

You can find ISO's for oem copies of windows online quite easily and if you are reisntalling windows that's a great way of doing it so you only get windows and not all the crap they install. For Dell this usually means you want the XP pro disk instead of XP home but they should both work on that machine.

Believe it or not there are actual keys stored in the machines bios that oem versions of windows look for during installation and if they are present automatically activate with that key.

You can find software online which will pull those keys out for you.



Razzy12345

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reply to cowboyro

That is strange indeed. It should just take the key...

you can just reinstall XP Home OEM with the key with no cost involved...



cowboyro
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join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT
reply to cowboyro

Not my machine, not my problem. Did a free service, if it was a paid customer I'd have offered the option. The machine was only needed to access some old emails and files stored locally, person has a new computer.



Hall
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join:2000-04-28
Germantown, OH
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2 recommendations

said by cowboyro:

The machine was only needed to access some old emails and files stored locally

Next time, pull the HDD and put it in another machine to grab the files.


cowboyro
Premium
join:2000-10-11
Shelton, CT

Yeah, I guess it makes sense to pull the hdd, install an xp on another machine, export address book from OE, convert OE mail files to WLM, etc etc when a 2-min quick fix can be applied...



Razzy12345

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Or you could just boot to safe mode (pure safe mode) and copy stuff from a USB stick or if it has a 3rd party CD burner...



Hall
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reply to cowboyro

You only spent two minutes on this "problem" ?

XP isn't required either.



Razzy12345

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reply to Razzy12345

said by Razzy12345 :

Or you could just boot to safe mode (pure safe mode) and copy stuff TO a USB stick or if it has a 3rd party CD burner...


SipSizzurp
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Houston, TX
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reply to cowboyro

said by cowboyro:

Cracked, fixed. Killed WGA, computer is usable.
Pirating a legit install beats trying to fix through the proper channels.

Sorry I didn't catch the thread sooner. There is no need to take a chance ( BIG chance ) of getting root kitted along with the crack.

If it happens again, to properly solve your original problem, restart in safe mode.

Search "Windows" folder for WGA*.* with the search setting to include system and hidden files.

Rename or delete ALL 20 or 30 files that are found. Reboot. Problem gone. No laws broken.

If you have SP3 and cannot disable Windows Updates in DCOM Config, then do the same as above, but search for WU*.*

Enjoy. Long Live Windows XP !

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IllIlIlllIll
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reply to cowboyro

hmm.
ive never had any issues "piggy-backing" any non encrypted drive to a working pc to copy any files, even the registry "hash" to pull keys from it (with an application to perform this).
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psafux
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reply to cowboyro

said by cowboyro:

I'm frustrated beyond belief.
A friend gave me a computer to fix, comes with the activation screen and refuses to activate. It's a Dell, has XP Home installed, COA sticker is on case.

Did you confirm that is actually the license key that is installed?

Jellybean Keyfinder..


Hall
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How is he supposed to run that app ?



elwoodblues
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reply to cowboyro

The activation is a joke.

I replaced all the guts (mobo/processor/Ram) in a friends PC. He was running XP.

I fire up the box, with the intention of upgrading it to Win7, but was going through the Vista then 7 so that all the settings would remain.

Well of course I couldn't activate because XP no longer had drivers for the network card , and of course it wouldn't allow me past the activation screen.

I figured I'd call in and activate it that way, despite have a COA sticker on the box, it was an "Invalid" number. First I figured it was a voice thing, then I did it by hand same difference.

I gave up and just went straight to 7.
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btB

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reply to cowboyro

The way I have done the reactivation on an OEM machine was to call in as directed on the screen. The key on the sticker does not work. However when the automated system asks you if the printed key on the machine has ever been used before, you say NO. Reason is that OEM's do not use the sticker's key. Then, the automated system should give you a different key which will then work. The goal is to never speak to a live person as you just waste time going back and forth. I guess you could always say that you are reinstalling the OS because of malware issues if you do get a live person.

At least that is how it worked before. No idea if things have changed or not.



Razzy12345

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btB, strange. I installed XP, Vista, 7 OEM ALL the time. Dell/HP/etc. The key on the OEM sticker on side of computers are the one that works. XP machines will activate over the Internet every single time due to MS relaxed activation - no need to call in for XPs. Windows Vista and 7 OEM still requires a call to MS and it is too easy as I do them all the time at my shop. And 100% of the time, it activated successfully every time - and I didn't need to speak to a human.

Expand your moderator at work


Razzy12345

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reply to Hall

Re: [XPHome] Xp home activation issues... crack?

Boot to Safe Mode and run it there...

Safe Mode will log in without issues even when you're locked out in normal mode.

Safe Mode with Networking will NOT let you log in, though.

(assuming the machine is locked out due to failed activation/past 30days)

You can also install network drivers and IE8 in Safe Mode as well.