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Zoder
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Re: I need to change my network addresses for Uverse expansion?

There's a lot of FUD in this thread. With only 6 weeks to go you would think David can get us the facts. If you're reading this, will you post here and let us know if we'll still have a public accessible IP address?

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said by Zoder:

There's a lot of FUD in this thread. With only 6 weeks to go you would think David can get us the facts. If you're reading this, will you post here and let us know if we'll still have a public accessible IP address?

Even "an executive director from the 'Office of the President at AT&T'" wouldn't give a guy from Network World a straight answer saying only "With all Internet service providers facing a shortage of IPv4 addresses, we are upgrading U-verse Internet customers' equipment to help us maximize the use of these addresses." He then digs up an article from 2010 stating "An AT&T executive did speak at Google's IPv6 Implementers Conference in June, explaining that the carrier will transition its broadband network to IPv6 using 6rd, a technique for tunneling IPv6 traffic over an IPv4 network that was pioneered by French ISP Free. / 'With our high-speed Internet access -- the U-verse and DSL product sets -- our plan is to go carrier-grade NAT to reduce IPv4 consumption and 6rd for IPv6 end content over our network ... We're not doing a trial yet. Not until 2011."

So, is this network address update needed for a video service? Perhaps. The signs are pointing to CGN however...

/M

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said by Zoder:

There's a lot of FUD in this thread. With only 6 weeks to go you would think David can get us the facts. If you're reading this, will you post here and let us know if we'll still have a public accessible IP address?

I wouldn't call it FUD, as FUD usually is intentional disinformation by a company towards its customers (as perfected by IBM decades ago).

What I see here is an information vacuum that is being filled by AT&T's customers trying to figure out what is about to happen to them.

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I would bet money that CGN/LSN is coming. Just don't know when.

Also, I see that World IPv6 Launch is just a few days away. Home networking equipment manufacturers, and web companies around the world are coming together to permanently enable IPv6 for their products and services by 6 June 2012. And ATT is one of the participants.

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said by gerick:

I would bet money that CGN/LSN is coming. Just don't know when.

My magic 8-ball is telling me it's going to be on or about July 6th
said by gerick:

Also, I see that World IPv6 Launch is just a few days away. Home networking equipment manufacturers, and web companies around the world are coming together to permanently enable IPv6 for their products and services by 6 June 2012. And ATT is one of the participants.

The surprising thing is of the big 4 (Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner, AT&T), AT&T is the only one to have deployed IPv6 to a significant percentage of customers, and of the 2 who've deployed at all (Comcast, AT&T), T's the only one to offer something bigger then a single /64. I really did not expect that.

/M
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said by mackey:

Even "an executive director from the 'Office of the President at AT&T'" wouldn't give a guy from Network World a straight answer saying only "With all Internet service providers facing a shortage of IPv4 addresses, we are upgrading U-verse Internet customers' equipment to help us maximize the use of these addresses." He then digs up an article from 2010 stating "An AT&T executive did speak at Google's IPv6 Implementers Conference in June, explaining that the carrier will transition its broadband network to IPv6 using 6rd, a technique for tunneling IPv6 traffic over an IPv4 network that was pioneered by French ISP Free. / 'With our high-speed Internet access -- the U-verse and DSL product sets -- our plan is to go carrier-grade NAT to reduce IPv4 consumption and 6rd for IPv6 end content over our network ... We're not doing a trial yet. Not until 2011."

So, is this network address update needed for a video service? Perhaps. The signs are pointing to CGN however...

/M

Thanks for the link. I guess I was too optimistic that AT&T would be forthcoming since we're going to find out after July 6 anyways. So why be so cagey?

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I can think of 2 possibilities:

1) Marketing is trying to keep people from worrying about whether or not their internet connection will work with CGN and start looking into other providers. Nobody wants to be the first one to implement something like this; it's gonna be TWC's caps all over again.

2) Management has not finalized a decision and is preparing just in case they decide to implement it

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Zoder
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I have to remote in for work. I'll be more pissed if I try to do so one day and it doesn't work than having advanced notice and being able to make alternate plans such as switching isps. I feel bad for the phone reps that day if it does happen.