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mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:13
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reply to mlord

Re: [Cable] Cable: Anyone still NOT have upstream channel bondin

said by mlord:

They appear to be working on Bells Corners now. My neighbour's modem is showing 8/4 today, but he lost provisioning in the process -- just gets an internal Rogers IP address now.

Our side of Bells Corners got upgraded last evening. Now at 8/4 bonding.
Anyone else? Who's still not got it yet?


metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
reply to metalhawk
As an update, mlord updated my firmware to 2.16 yesterday, and in the 30 hours or so since, not a single disconnect or error in the log. So if you're getting disconnects since getting your upstream bonded, this is your solution.

mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:13
reply to highwire2007
They appear to be working on Bells Corners now. My neighbour's modem is showing 8/4 today, but he lost provisioning in the process -- just gets an internal Rogers IP address now.

I'm not touching our own modem (still showing 4/1).

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to sbrook
said by sbrook:

Increased upload speeds won't happen until most of Rogers network is ready which starts with channel bonding. There are probably other criteria like backhauls from the head ends which will need upgrading too.

I'm skeptical of backhaul connections needing upgrades. Connections there are symmetrical which means tons of bandwidth on the upstream path not being utilized even with increased upstream speed rolled out.


sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
kudos:13
reply to charettepa
Increased upload speeds won't happen until most of Rogers network is ready which starts with channel bonding. There are probably other criteria like backhauls from the head ends which will need upgrading too.

charettepa

join:2012-10-03
Orleans, ON
reply to sbrook
I supose this makes sense
my area is not congested
i was just hoping that with channel bonding
we will finally get acceptable upload speeds
i know nothing has changed yet but
would be nice


sbrook
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join:2001-12-14
Ottawa
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reply to charettepa
said by charettepa:

should it not be 8 down and 4 up if not better
why are other people in ottawa getting upstream bonding
do i need to do something

You need to wait until Rogers upgrades or validates the fibre runs to the nodes in your area. Just like me. I'm of the Fallowfield head end and many on this head end are bonded, but not here yet.

I can't complain too much because the node I'm on is lightly loaded, so we don't get peak hour degradation so it doesn't impact our service. At one time there were only 3 on this node! Lot more now but nowhere near maxed out.


charettepa

@med2020.ca
reply to SimGuy
I am in Ottawa (Orleans)
I have a DCM475 on stac 02.16
Just to be clear i did not upgrade it
I still only have 1 channel upstream
i have power cycled the modem

4 down channels
1 up channel

should it not be 8 down and 4 up if not better
why are other people in ottawa getting upstream bonding
do i need to do something


pnjunction
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join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON
kudos:1
reply to highwire2007
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I just looked again and at some point 64QAM showed up under upstream modulation. It wasn't there before.

Before: »Re: [Cable] Cable: Anyone still NOT have upstream channel bondin


SimGuy

join:2002-01-06
Toronto, ON
Reviews:
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reply to highwire2007
1-Green and 4-Blue lights on my DCM476 meant a nice surprise this AM - channel bonding 8x4 (from 4x1).

Looks like its gone far to repair the issues of local node slow-down during peak hours that have been plaguing me for ~3 months (actually getting 28/1+ during peak hours this PM).

10/02/2012 - 11:47:00 PM EST

Status Code: Operational
Software Version: STAC.02.50
Software Model: a81a
Bootloader: 2.3.1
Cable Signal Details

Forward Path:
Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 597.0 MHz 0.4 dBmV 38.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 591.0 MHz 0.3 dBmV 38.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 603.0 MHz 0.2 dBmV 38.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
4 609.0 MHz 0.4 dBmV 38.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
5 615.0 MHz 0.4 dBmV 38.7 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
6 621.0 MHz 0.5 dBmV 38.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 633.0 MHz 0.4 dBmV 38.7 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
8 639.0 MHz 0.4 dBmV 38.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM

Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
1 31.3 MHz 38.3 dBmV 16 QAM
2 25.3 MHz 38.3 dBmV 16 QAM
3 22.1 MHz 38.3 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 38.3 dBmV 16 QAM

Data Service Details
Provisioned Address: Yes
Provisioned Time: Yes
Provisioned Configuration: Yes
Registered: Yes
BPI: Enabled


TakeOffEh

@teksavvy.com
reply to highwire2007
Just went from 4x2 64QAM to 4x4 64QAM in Brampton on my SB6120. Connection was down for an hour while the change was implemented by Robbers. My upstream speed has actually improved slightly after the upgrade, but it's still at the 1mbps tier as expected.

recneps
Premium
join:2006-06-24
Whitby, ON
reply to highwire2007
Awesome. Received mine some time in the last couple days (finally).


metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
reply to mlord
First, here's my new stats. A few hours after I originally got upstream bonding, my connection went down again for a few hours. Upon coming back, my line stats were very different than what they were before. I'm no expert on this matter, but they look pretty good to me. The SNR could maybe be a bit higher, I suppose, but otherwise I think it's pretty clean.

Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 609.0 MHz 0.3 dBmV 38.0 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 591.0 MHz 1.1 dBmV 38.3 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 597.0 MHz 0.5 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
4 603.0 MHz 0.2 dBmV 38.0 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
5 615.0 MHz 0.5 dBmV 37.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
6 621.0 MHz 0.6 dBmV 37.9 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 633.0 MHz 0.7 dBmV 37.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
8 639.0 MHz 0.9 dBmV 37.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
1 31.3 MHz 46.3 dBmV 16 QAM
2 25.3 MHz 44.3 dBmV 16 QAM
3 22.1 MHz 43.8 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 45.3 dBmV 16 QAM

And every time my modem reboots, this pops up in the log:

Critical(3) - Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Un...
 

mlord

join:2006-11-05
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reply to metalhawk
said by metalhawk:

2.08 is the version. And it's funny that you mention the upgrade because last night I read the thread where yourself and Teddy Boom experimented on the firmware flashing. A few more days of this here and I was going to PM you regarding it.

Well, step one for anyone having the kinds of issues you see, is to get the modem up to date. That way you eliminate one possible cause of issues, now and for the future.

I ask only $5 towards the flashing rig costs, in exchange for updating a modem to the current 02.16 firmware. PM me when you decide to go for it. Friday evening is the next window of opportunity for getting it done.

Cheers


creed3020
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join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
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reply to metalhawk
said by metalhawk:

2.08 is the version. And it's funny that you mention the upgrade because last night I read the thread where yourself and Teddy Boom experimented on the firmware flashing. A few more days of this here and I was going to PM you regarding it.

I'm glad you read that thread now as I was going to recommend you to mlord based on your response of firmware. Looks like he took care of that already

My modem is at firmware 02.16 BTW, as it was a replacement for a SB6120 that died on me.


metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
reply to mlord
2.08 is the version. And it's funny that you mention the upgrade because last night I read the thread where yourself and Teddy Boom experimented on the firmware flashing. A few more days of this here and I was going to PM you regarding it.

mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
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reply to metalhawk
said by metalhawk:

My DCM475 now reboots numerous times per day. It never (read: once per month or even less) used to happen. It started exactly when upstream bonding got here.

Yeah, what "Software Version" (aka. firmware) is installed in that modem? (web interface at »192.168.100.1 , Diagnositics screen).

If it says "Stac 02.08", then the reboots may be curable by a firmware update to the recommended 02.16 version -- contact me to have the upgrade done locally in under half an hour.

Cheers


creed3020
Premium
join:2006-04-26
Kitchener, ON
kudos:2
reply to metalhawk
Have you tried a factory reset on the modem? What firmware is your modem running currently?

I've been through two upstream bonding upgrades at different addresses/different POIs and never saw this occur with my DCM475.


metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
reply to metalhawk
Interestingly (and frustratingly), ever since I got upstream bonding, I have also gotten a bad case of the "resets". My DCM475 now reboots numerous times per day. It never (read: once per month or even less) used to happen. It started exactly when upstream bonding got here.

graniterock
Premium
join:2003-03-14
London, ON
reply to Perma
My north west London neighbourhood just got bonding on Friday. Hopefully the whole city will be covered soon.

velocity7

join:2009-05-20
reply to highwire2007
On a Thomson DCM476 right now, was a recent install, Markham area.

Status Code: Operational
Software Version: STAC.02.50
Software Model: a81a
Bootloader: 2.3.1

Cable Signal Details
Forward Path:
Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 663.0 MHz -0.4 dBmV 36.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 615.0 MHz -0.4 dBmV 36.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 621.0 MHz -0.3 dBmV 36.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
4 633.0 MHz 0.0 dBmV 36.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
5 639.0 MHz 0.0 dBmV 36.7 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
6 645.0 MHz 0.1 dBmV 36.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 651.0 MHz -0.1 dBmV 36.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
8 657.0 MHz -0.2 dBmV 36.7 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
2 25.3 MHz 32.3 dBmV 16 QAM
1 31.3 MHz 32.3 dBmV 16 QAM
3 22.1 MHz 32.3 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 33.8 dBmV 16 QAM


HiVolt
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join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
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reply to chrisl83
Hehe, i had 4x4 with QAM64 upstream bonding on my SB6120, and according to my logs my cable went out at around 3am, and didnt come back...

In the morning i couldnt even access the modem's diagnostic page. I rebooted it and it came back, still with 4x4 bonding but with only QAM16 on the upstream bonding... Weird... It has been rock solid for nearly 2 months on QAM64... I hope its not my modem starting to crap out, I really don't want one of those DCM's...

Some strange entries in the log after I rebooted it and regained access to the web interface.

Edit: hrm, seems my IP changed to a 198.x, maybe i got switched from McNicoll to Comstock? The tracert doesn't reveal anything relevant.

Edit2: Confirmed i got moved to Comstock, the RDNS hasn't been updated yet...
Sep 19 2012 11:51:14 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice Cable Modem Reboot due to power reset ;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 08:19:13 6-Notice D106.0 DHCP Renew - lease parameters tftp file-bac1030001060022103aceec modified;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 08:19:13 4-Error D103.0 DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response v4 option;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:54:42 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:54:41 5-Warning Z00.0 MIMO Event MIMO: Stored MIMO=-1 post cfg file MIMO=-1;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Jan 01 1970 00:00:50 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Jan 01 1970 00:00:13 6-Notice Cable Modem Reboot due to T4 timeout ;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:21 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:21 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:20 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 5-Warning U102.0 TCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:11 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:10 3-Critical R06.0 Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:10 3-Critical R03.0 Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
Sep 19 2012 07:53:10 3-Critical R02.0 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;CMTS-MAC=e8:b7:48:0c:9a:c6;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
 

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mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5
reply to metalhawk
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Thanks for the heads up metalhawk. Upgraded here as well, but we're on the same street so just as expected. No modem outage here so I would have never known without that post.

chrisl83

join:2011-06-21
Almonte, ON
reply to metalhawk
I got 8/4 yesterday and it broke my DCM 475 2.08.

I'm glad I'm moving away soon to Calgary.

I called at the crack of dawn tuesday, the fastest rogers can send a tech out is suppose to be Saturday.

That's a hilarious turn around time, I can't wait to get on shaw out there.


metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON
reply to highwire2007
My connection went down at 3am and still wasn't back at 8am. Rebooting the modem did nothing. I rebooted my router... et voila: 8/4 bonding. I live on Banner Rd.

Forward Path:
Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 609.0 MHz -6.3 dBmV 36.9 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 591.0 MHz -5.5 dBmV 37.1 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 597.0 MHz -5.8 dBmV 37.1 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
4 603.0 MHz -6.2 dBmV 36.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
5 615.0 MHz -6.3 dBmV 36.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
6 621.0 MHz -6.4 dBmV 36.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 633.0 MHz -5.9 dBmV 36.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
8 639.0 MHz -6.0 dBmV 36.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
2 25.3 MHz 45.8 dBmV 16 QAM
1 31.3 MHz 47.3 dBmV 16 QAM
3 22.1 MHz 45.8 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 47.3 dBmV 16 QAM

nexusCFX

join:2012-08-27
reply to highwire2007
Just got 8x4 from 4x1 on Winding Way. Absolutely no change in speed at all, still getting like 18-22/1 on the 28/1 package. But it's nice to know I have it.

Forward Path:
Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 597.0 MHz -1.8 dBmV 39.0 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 591.0 MHz -0.9 dBmV 39.4 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 603.0 MHz -2.9 dBmV 38.6 dB 0.003 % 256 QAM
4 609.0 MHz -3.5 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.002 % 256 QAM
5 615.0 MHz -3.7 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.004 % 256 QAM
6 621.0 MHz -3.8 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 633.0 MHz -3.7 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.004 % 256 QAM
8 639.0 MHz -3.8 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
3 22.1 MHz 31.5 dBmV 16 QAM
1 31.3 MHz 33.5 dBmV 16 QAM
2 25.3 MHz 32.3 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 34.5 dBmV 16 QAM

hdefjunkie

join:2005-01-14
Kanata, ON
reply to graniterock
I can't really put my finger on it. Feels like more retransmissions after the 4way bonding was enabled. Have no data to back up that claim so mileage will vary.

I did hard code my router to 100M Full Duplex from previous setting of auto-neg and the link "appears" to be snappier. Perhaps due to the link being reset. Dunno.

Speedtest behaves the same.

graniterock
Premium
join:2003-03-14
London, ON
reply to hdefjunkie
Speedtest does that to me unbonded. I haven't noticed that with regular internet activity however. Could be a speedtest quirk.

hdefjunkie

join:2005-01-14
Kanata, ON
reply to highwire2007
Well, be careful what you wish for. Prior to the 4x4 bonding my connection was rock solid. Now I seem to be experiencing unexplained upload lags. Speedtest.net takes an additional 20sec before it will start the upload test. Sits and flashes on "connecting" whilst running upload test. Still 1M upload though.

Maybe a glitch that will iron itself out, but suspect something's not 100% provisioned correctly.


Dones

join:2008-02-14
Toronto, ON
reply to highwire2007
It recently updated 4x4 in Ajax.