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Facebook co-founder worried about privacy on FacebookFoxquote: Eduardo Saverin, who co-founded the worlds largest social network with CEO Mark Zuckerberg, keeps a low profile on Facebook these days. Why? Even hes concerned about online privacy.
I dont like showing my privacy, Saverin said in a rare interview with the magazine Veja.
As Facebook nears a billion unique users, the question of privacy has dogged the social network -- and not just users worried about who will see their private photos or have access to the personal information, it seems.
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Dude111An Awesome Dude Premium Member join:2003-08-04 kudos:14 |
Dude111
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2012-May-30 5:35 am
Why doesnt he get off it then?
If he is co-founder HE KNOWS HOW TO TOTALLY WIPE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIMSELF OFF THIER DISKS!! |
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Maybe he likes getting friended. |
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EUSKill cancer Premium Member join:2002-09-10 canada |
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Re: Facebook co-founder worried about privacy on FacebookTitle from originating article should have read: "Facebook co-founder thinks his product sucks ass, but you should all buy stock now anyway!" |
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BlackbirdBuilt for Speed Premium Member join:2005-01-14 Fort Wayne, IN kudos:4 ·Frontier Communi..
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Re: said by Dude111:Why doesnt he get off it then?
If he is co-founder HE KNOWS HOW TO TOTALLY WIPE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIMSELF OFF THIER DISKS!! Why would that be true? He split with Facebook and Zuckerberg some time ago over differences in where Facebook was headed. He filed a suit against Facebook (who settled out-of-court), and has sold much of his interests in FB over time. Moreover, having co-founded a company some years earlier, how would that translate into having any current handle on how to "totally wipe" information off their disks? |
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Re: Facebook co-founder worried about privacy on FacebookWho cares about that fool. |
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nofool
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2012-May-30 1:25 pm
Why calling him a fool? |
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Mangix join:2012-02-16 united state |
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The version of this story that I've heard is that he's been living in Singapore for three years. Since he doesn't live in the US anymore, why pay US taxes? |
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Razzy12345
Anon
2012-May-31 12:31 pm
He renounced his US Citizenship months before the IPO. It's obvious. Even though he's over in another country, he's STILL making money off Facebook... |
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caffeinatorComing soon to a cup near you.. Premium Member join:2005-01-16 00000 kudos:4 |
That just means he's smart.  |
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Razzy12345
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2012-May-31 4:00 pm
I don't think it's smart to denounce your citizenship to a country that made you unbelievable rich ($4 billion dollars) and not pay a few millions in taxes... I would have and stayed here. Singapore instead of USA? Are you kidding me? No thanks. |
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caffeinatorComing soon to a cup near you.. Premium Member join:2005-01-16 00000 kudos:4 ·CenturyLink
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He's originally from Brazil and has been working in Sinapore for awhile. So it doesn't surprise me. He can live wherever he likes, eh? Here's a WSJ article with his comments: » blogs.wsj.com/deals/2012 ··· rmation/Read this to: » www.forbes.com/sites/tim ··· ax-bill/quote: Facebook's Saverin: Citizenship Renunciation Increased His Tax Bill
I had thought that this could be true but now it seems that it is. Eduardo Saverin famously renounced his US citizenship last fall. The news broke just a few days before the Facebook IPO and there were immediate cries that he was just a tax dodger, spurning the country that offered him the chance to make such a fortune and so on. Theres even the usual grandstanding from a politician or two about how the law must be changed to punish such behaviour.
Yet, as I noted at the time, it was entirely possible that his giving up his US citizenship could actually increase his tax bill, not reduce it. And Felix Salmon has the proof as to why this was so..."Whats more, I can easily see how the frothy Facebook valuations being seen on SecondMarket contributed to the debacle that was the Facebook IPO. Facebook executives with vested equity had the opportunity to sell their Facebook stock in early 2012 at valuations north of $80 billion; at the peak of Facebook fever, just before the IPO, the shares traded as high as $44 each. Given that Facebook was by far the most liquid stock on SecondMarket, and had weekly auctions from November 2010 onwards, it was pretty reasonable to consider SecondMarket to be a reliable price discovery mechanism." The important point here is that last fall Facebook was worth more on those private markets than it is now after the IPO. And we do have that reliable price discovery mechanism there, that private market price.
Dont forget that Saverin, when he renounced his citizenship, had to calculate a tax bill as if he had just sold everything he owned. Yes, this includes selling all of his Facebook stock. At that price of last fall and that price of last fall is higher, significantly higher, than the price now.
So, by leaving the country then Saverin locked in a tax bill at pretty much the peak of Facebooks valuation. His leaving the country has, so far at least, therefore led to his having a higher tax bill than if hed just stayed.
The only way his actions will save him any money is if Facebook stock goes above about $40 before he sells. Which is, well, you make up your own mind about how likely that is.
If you don't trust Forbes on financial matters...IDK what to tell you. |
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StuartMWWho Is John Galt? Premium Member join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:3 |
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said by Mangix:Since he doesn't live in the US anymore, why pay US taxes? Because the US, unlike any other country in the world, requires it's citizens to file tax returns even if they reside outside the US. Usually if one pays taxes locally (i.e. whatever country they're in) no US taxes are due. However Singapore does not tax capital gains so the US taxes those instead. Isn't it great to be a US Citizen?  |
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So why did he renounced US Citizenship and risk being banned? He ain't smart if his tax bill would be...increased.
And yea, he can live anywhere he wants. Singapore tho.. LOL, I'll hang in the US for the good stuff. |
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