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maybe

@rr.com
reply to ke4pym

Re: Youtube throttled by TWC?

maybe i spoke too soon. lagging again.


DrDrew
That others may surf
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join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:16
reply to maybe
said by maybe :

Looks like twc finally stopped throttling youtube streams. Who's to say they won't throttle it again though.

Who says they throttled it in the first place and WHY would TWC go after YouTube and not others like NetFlix, Vimeo, or Amazon video? Why would they throttle in some areas and not others?

How do you explain YouTube having similar issues on other ISPs, including FIOS, U-Verse, Comcast, Charter, Cablevision, Cox?

How can you tell this is throttling and simply not a congestion issue because YouTube isn't buying enough bandwidth?
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Aaron M

join:2002-03-01
Monrovia, CA
reply to isamu99
Maybe with school right around the corner parents are cracking down on their kid's computer time. Youtube has been much much better this past week.


Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
Let's not forget, Olympics are also over with. Less streaming they have to put up with at once during peak hours.

Expect it to get bad during the winter months though. It's pretty routine for YouTube.

pxwoo

join:2004-09-14
Racine, WI
reply to isamu99
It's not TW that throttles.

Open a random HD video (one that isn't featured on the front page etc)

Turn on HD then right click in the video and click "Show video info"

Watch this line: HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 0 kbps
(for me it will generally jump between 0-2000kbps) (mostly 0)

Right click inside the player again and click "Take speed test"

Near the bottom of the speed test page click: Show Test Video

A video appears, set to HD and "Show video info" again

Watch how youtube's own video maxes your connection 99% of the time.

HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 49943 kbps

ke4pym
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Charlotte, NC
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said by pxwoo:

It's not TW that throttles.

Open a random HD video (one that isn't featured on the front page etc)

Turn on HD then right click in the video and click "Show video info"

Watch this line: HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 0 kbps
(for me it will generally jump between 0-2000kbps) (mostly 0)

Right click inside the player again and click "Take speed test"

Near the bottom of the speed test page click: Show Test Video

A video appears, set to HD and "Show video info" again

Watch how youtube's own video maxes your connection 99% of the time.

HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 49943 kbps

This seems to work for the test video. But when I go back to random 1080p clips, I'm back to around 170kbps. The test video? SLAMs my internet connection. Wish the other videos would do this.


rasmasyean

@rcn.com
reply to pxwoo
said by pxwoo:

It's not TW that throttles.

Open a random HD video (one that isn't featured on the front page etc)

Turn on HD then right click in the video and click "Show video info"

Watch this line: HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 0 kbps
(for me it will generally jump between 0-2000kbps) (mostly 0)

Right click inside the player again and click "Take speed test"

Near the bottom of the speed test page click: Show Test Video

A video appears, set to HD and "Show video info" again

Watch how youtube's own video maxes your connection 99% of the time.

HTTPVideoPlayer, HTTP, 49943 kbps

OK, I dunno what is “featured”, but here are actual tests for me via RCN. Which video you use so we’re on the same page?

It’s weird because there doesn’t seem to be a correlation between “popularity” and “throttle”.

400k hits:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HJoNXWW···ure=plcp

24mil hits:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjpOzsQ···ure=plcp

49000-50000 kbps

10mil hits:

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSLPH9d-···ure=plcp

10000-30000 kbps

Google Test Video
10000-39000 kbps


poopiepants

join:2003-10-04
King, NC
kudos:1
reply to isamu99
youtube is horrendus for me no matter what I try to do to make it better.. it really blows.

SIOYGYG

join:2011-01-08
Charlotte, NC
reply to isamu99
try swapping the modem out for a new if your running an old one the connection will be unstable


DelmarPip
Premium
join:2011-10-15
Brownsville, TX
reply to isamu99
i heard microsoft mse slows down youtube videos alot


rasmasyean

@rcn.com
said by DelmarPip:

i heard microsoft mse slows down youtube videos alot

Oh yeah, also...Flash slowing down processing in a weak computer has nothing to do with the speed of download.


rasmasyean

@rcn.com
reply to DelmarPip
said by DelmarPip:

i heard microsoft mse slows down youtube videos alot

That's only if you have a real crappy computer that can't handle IE and Flash at the same time. You would get the same effect with FireFox with a lot of plugins. It's just that IE has a lot of stuff built-in.

Chrome says it "fastest". But in a modern computer (not netbook), it makes no noticable difference.


DelmarPip
Premium
join:2011-10-15
Brownsville, TX
reply to rasmasyean
was talking bout mse not the IE browser i only use IE for improtant stuff like banking or buying stuff


rasmasyean

@rcn.com
said by DelmarPip:

was talking bout mse not the IE browser i only use IE for improtant stuff like banking or buying stuff

Oh phht...I guess sometimes we distort what we read based on prejudices. :P

You're talking about the virus scanner? I have that too, and it doesn't effect youtube. I mean, unless it effects it when it runs? But I never noticed anything with a core i7. But if it did, it would effect all the other apps too.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
reply to poopiepants
said by poopiepants:

youtube is horrendus for me no matter what I try to do to make it better.. it really blows.

Youtube presents video in two formats:

1. Adobe Flash Player

2. HTML5 Video Player

If there ain't no commercial content, one can see a video in HTML5 Video Player if enabled via this Youtube site: »www.youtube.com/html5/

Adobe Flash content tends to be throttled in steps, but when watching via HTML5, Youtube can feed it as fast as you can suck it up.

PS: Previous thread: »[TWC] Problems with Youtube?


rasmasyean

@rcn.com
FYI, I went through that "HTML5" theory already last time. It didn't make jack difference for me.

It just looked worst beause HTML5 can't be full screened.