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| [RANT] 250 GB , really? So, I got a call from a mediacom 'fraud specialist' (hah, what a joke). Caller ID showed that it was in fact mediacom (the number checks out), but, it would appear that either there's a serious problem here, or the caps for mediacom are WAY, WAY off base.
Firstly, bill was created (May 17th), so there's no question, this "you're close to your 250 GB" 'alert' is uncalled for. I know what goes on in my network more than you can think. While there may just be a lot of 'internal' traffic, there's not that much external. A few videos (hulu, amazon prime) here and there, but nothing that drastic
Secondly, even there WAS a lot of 'external' traffic, $60 should buy a TON more than 250 gig bandwidth. That's as unreasonable as it could possibly get. Yes, that is quite unreasonable.
Let's use a perfect example here, gaming... MOST games are in the 20-30 gig range (MMO's, etc), and are better installed from the developer's site. So, let's say you take that one single game, download it (nice speed, of course), bam, there you've used up 1/8th of your capacity for the month. No, these limits are NOT reasonable, whatsoever!
How about another example? Videos... Of course, this is exactly the thing that Mediacom and others are trying to stop (legal streaming of videos through hulu, amazon, netflix, etc), but we'll throw it out there anyways... Average HD size? 1-2 gig... So, 100 videos (average) of video time and woops, there you go again!
I'm not sure what's going on over there, but someone better get their thinking caps on straight before they lose a ton of customers. Caps? Whether they're necessary or not is not the question. If you insist on them, you must make them REASONABLE, and no, with today's internet usage, 250 gig is NOT even close to reasonable!
BTW: This is the first call I've received from these guys in over 12 years doing business with MC. Something, most definitely has changed. Care to explain why these limits were lowered to unreasonably low limits, Chad? |
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 | its been 250GB/mo for as long as i can remember, its aparantly in the useage agreement which i can never find when i want to refernce it (its not on the mediacomcable.com site or at least not easily accessiable)
the thing that strikes me is we have been told over and over again "its not enforced" so, are they now enforcing it? if so mediacom just hit a new low, ever since roco took over they are less and less competative. (charging for voicemail, modem rental, phone modem rental, contracts, etc things that USED to set them appart from satellite )
edit: found it »www.mediacomtoday.com/aup this should be on the main mediacomcable.com website under the "internet" tab, instead of hiding it on a separate website entirely! |
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| Ok, so the limit's always been that low, they just haven't enforced it.
I noticed the modem charge started appearing about a year ago myself, haven't gotten a call about this until today. Honestly, if this is the direction mediacom is going to take (adding ridiculous garbage like this to your customers), it'll be a not so short period of time before I find someone else who won't play this ridiculous game |
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 | reply to twhiting9275 I hear you on the cap stuff. Guess I can't really complain (not on MC) but even my router states i don't use that much data and I do download 20GB a day sometimes. I use about 180GB/month without trying though.
I was curious though how a normal family is as I live alone. I setup my friends Netgear router to monitor WAN data. She works from home so constant connection to Citrix servers at work sending reports and such (still not really lots of data) but she has 2 teenage boys and a boyfriend living there so should be considered "average" IMO. Based on her router (dunno if it's super accurate or whatever) but it says she uses about 11GB a day x 30 that's about ~330GB/month and that's not really trying. I bought her a Roku for Christmas last year so she watches some Netflix and Hulu and whatever. She has normal cable TV package as well so it's not like she's a cord cutter. Her kids generally do some youtube videos, they have 0 MP3s downloaded (as that's "sooo outdated, just go to youtube and play music that way" ) LOL. Kids have an older Desktop and iPhone, and mom has a laptop. BF has a Mac he uses for photos. That's all the network connected devices there. They don't have a PS3/Xbox to download Demos with and if they had a better PC they'd probably get games online via illegal methods So This is all "legal" usage for now with no 1 file being 20GB each.
Still though, this goes to show that 250GB is not so "above average" as I once thought. Maybe for a grandma or people that don't really use the internet. Maybe just check emails or facebook and such but no real usage. |
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 | reply to twhiting9275 oh im agreeing with you, 250GB is amazingly low, my router is running tomato and i know my numbers dont match up with mediacoms, so here we go with the "whos watching the meter" thing. i know theres a LOT of traffic hitting my router from the outside and if all of that is being counted, then we got a problem.
sadly i have no "real" alternative (no dsl, dialup? cellular, or satellite) so ive put up with it. but it wont take much more for me to say screw it, and if there going to be enforcing a cap that just might be enough to push me over and drop them.
ive just seen mediacom go downhill when it comes to nickle and dimeing for the last couple of years, they are in my view no different than any other provider, so in area's where there is competition people at least "can" switch. people like me tho, its mediacom or nothing.
a few years back we where going to get a second cable operator people where so excited to finally have competition, sadly that fell thru (something to do with the basic tv rate). |
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 rudnickePremium join:2004-10-23 Rantoul, IL kudos:3 | reply to twhiting9275 Do business connections have a cap? If so, this is going to put a halt to us getting fiber from MC. -- One Big Ass Mistake America |
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 | reply to twhiting9275 Meanwhile Comcast, which implemented their 250GB cap way back in 2008, atleast raised theirs to 300GB for entry-level services. Mediacom, once again, is behind the pack. |
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 | reply to twhiting9275 This is just plain sick. On one hand Media"con" over sells it's bandwidth and just shrugs it's collective shoulder. On the other end it it gets "pissy" over a 250gb limit. I tell you, Roco's gonna hate having to appear in small claims courts in every city he serves. -- 0111000001100101011000010110001101100101 |
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| reply to twhiting9275 Are you guys really surprised? Caps now, overage fees soon. It makes so much sense. Why invest tons of money and expand your network if you can charge more and not only make more money but reduce utilization?
No cable company has to do it. They simply want to make more money and invest less. Sure they will insult your intelligence by telling you this will somehow improve your service but you guys know what's going on. I told you guys all of that DirecTV and Netflix streaming will end up costing us more in the long run.
Also (assuming the franchise agreement allows it) I see cable cos forcing TV service with internet. -- I speak for myself, not my employer. |
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 | reply to SmackWeasel Bandwidth is not an issue in all areas. in fact in my area peak utilization is around 50%. -- I speak for myself, not my employer. |
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·Mediacom
| said by Chads2 :Meanwhile Comcast, which implemented their 250GB cap way back in 2008, atleast raised theirs to 300GB for entry-level services. Mediacom, once again, is behind the pack. Comcast enforces theirs heavily. Mediacom does not. I use way more the 250gig a month and have never gotten anything from MC about it.
said by Anonymous:Bandwidth is not an issue in all areas. in fact in my area peak utilization is around 50%. Exactly.
It is funny reading people whine about something all ISP's do. They may not enforce it like it's law, but they have a cap. |
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 | reply to Anonymous said by Anonymous:Are you guys really surprised? Caps now, overage fees soon. It makes so much sense. Why invest tons of money and expand your network if you can charge more and not only make more money but reduce utilization?
No cable company has to do it. They simply want to make more money and invest less. Sure they will insult your intelligence by telling you this will somehow improve your service but you guys know what's going on. I told you guys all of that DirecTV and Netflix streaming will end up costing us more in the long run.
Also (assuming the franchise agreement allows it) I see cable cos forcing TV service with internet. so if there is a cap where is the usage meter? or where is it on the bill? atleast comcast puts it on the bill for you to see.
as for investing money mediacom is dead last in customer service and overall service surveys why THE LACK OF SPENDING MONEY....
I really want to know what is taking so long deploying docsis 3 to this area... |
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 ltsnowPremium join:2006-04-08 Valdosta, GA kudos:1 | reply to twhiting9275 Here is what ChrisL has to say over at the Mediacom forum:
Currently this is a soft cap. We are not charging overage fees, we are not limiting or throttling traffic or making any changes to the network that would do this. All we are doing currently is informing certain customers who are very high end users throughout the company that there usage is high and we are trying to gain more information as to why they are so high. Some do not know how much bandwidth they use (open networks with no protection, etc.) and all we did was inform them and explain the 250GB cap. This has been in our terms of service for a couple of years now, but I don't have the exact date.
Thanks, Chris |
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| reply to GLIMMER Mediacom already has the ability to very precisely measure bandwidth usage for each modem on their network. I'm sure once overage fees kick in customers will be able to see their usage by logging to their account. -- I speak for myself, not my employer. |
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 | said by Anonymous:Mediacom already has the ability to very precisely measure bandwidth usage for each modem on their network. I'm sure once overage fees kick in customers will be able to see their usage by logging to their account. then spend some of that modem fee money and provided it on there website. 250gb of data is a lot but when and if docsis 3 takes off there needs to be more than one level like comcast is doing. |
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 | reply to twhiting9275 if they do start enforcing the caps i sure wont need ultra 50 so i can hit the cap faster. id more then likely drop to the lowest tier. that so far, has been the best thing about MC is they are NOT enforcing the cap. |
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·Mediacom
| reply to GLIMMER said by GLIMMER:250gb of data is a lot No it's not. Maybe 5-7 years ago, back when there was no streaming from Netflix, iTunes, Amazon Prime, Hulu, when your average MMO/Game was 4 gig (now, they tend to run 20-30), when there was no 360, PS3, instant game downloads.. Maybe THEN, this was an acceptable amount of data. Maybe THEN, this was a lot of data. Now? It's not even close to 'a lot'.
said by Boss302_1970:if they do start enforcing the caps i sure wont need ultra 50 Yeah, if they DO start enforcing this, I'll drop down from 20 to the lowest tier available myself, if I don't drop them entirely.
The reality is that the internet has evolved over the past few years. Users need more bandwidth. The cable monopolies don't want you to use that bandwidth because it takes away from their own income. THAT is the only reason that they're throwing a fit here, nothing more.
Back when I started my hosting / administration biz, in 2002, 100 gig was the standard for allowed transfers (we're talking pro servers here). Today, 10 years later, it's 1-3 Terabytes . This is just web data, text stuff, no real heavy usage, but this is also how the industry needs have grown. These people need to wake up and realize it's not 2005 any more. |
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 | And where are you going to.go? Dsl there are going.to be caps.on that also. Att has low caps like 75gb. Look at comcast they have had a 250gb cap for.years and they are just now raising it to 300 and more for.higher tiers. Its about money nothing more it sucks but there is nothing that can be done about it |
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 | comcast business has no caps and is reasonably priced too. i have several friends who use that. sadly its not available where i am at. so with comcast to avoid caps you just become a business customer, and they are priced for biz about the same as residential. |
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 | reply to GLIMMER said by GLIMMER:And where are you going to.go? Dsl there are going.to be caps.on that also. Att has low caps like 75gb. Where did you get ATT 75GB cap from?
See here it looks like 150 or 250GB »Exclusive: AT&T To Impose Caps, Overages |
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