Topic 'It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says' in forum '' - dslreports.com

Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 22:04:32 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by scott2020:

What they need to do is create a separate file with a marker of the start and end times of the commercial breaks. Then, leave the recordings alone and integrate the original recording and the time file with the playback. Many "roll your own" DVR's with 3rd party software have done this for many years. Too bad Dish is drawing so much attention to commercial skipping.

Networks have abused the public for far too long, with 20 minutes an hour of commercials, annoying fly-overs of graphics, cheesy product placement, and so many other things. The people are fed up, and Dish recognized it and is capitalizing on it. Networks need to change their ways and their Hopper "problem" disappears too.

But I already read how the networks are going to start charging Dish WAY MORE for retransmission rights if they don't back off on Autohop feature. And they are also threatening to not sell content to Dish at all.

Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 21:28:19 EDT

KrK posted : You keep repeating this already debunked theme. There is no copyright infringement, the content is not modified in anyway or altered, it is recorded, unchanged, as transmitted. The consumer then decides whether or not to skip the commercials at their discretion. The charges of content modification are false.
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Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 14:55:06 EDT

scott2020 posted : What they need to do is create a separate file with a marker of the start and end times of the commercial breaks. Then, leave the recordings alone and integrate the original recording and the time file with the playback. Many "roll your own" DVR's with 3rd party software have done this for many years. Too bad Dish is drawing so much attention to commercial skipping.

Networks have abused the public for far too long, with 20 minutes an hour of commercials, annoying fly-overs of graphics, cheesy product placement, and so many other things. The people are fed up, and Dish recognized it and is capitalizing on it. Networks need to change their ways and their Hopper "problem" disappears too.

Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 14:52:54 EDT

buzz_4_20 posted : The video content isn't being altered.

The DVR doesn't make a bitstream copy of the digital broadcast. It's recorded in a video format and timestamps are taken for the ad locations.

The commercials are not being removed only skipped just like VCRs have been doing for years.

Mitsubishi had one way back in 1990..

Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 14:35:26 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by buzz_4_20:

But it's not modifying the content. It is just automating the fast forward process.

Wrong. They put markers on the recording itself to identify where the commercials are in the recorded stream.

Re: It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 14:20:46 EDT

buzz_4_20 posted : But it's not modifying the content. It is just automating the fast forward process.

It may be copyright infringement - no matter what Dish says

Thu, 31 May 2012 13:56:03 EDT

Linklist posted : The problem here is that DISH modified the recording of the show on the DVR and is NOT just letting the end user fast skip thru the commercials. They modified the recording by pre-marking all the commercials thru their post recording processing. To me that means that Fox, ABC, CBS, etc can make a case for copyright infringement. A court will have to decide, but claims by Public Knowledge that this is a straight forward Betamax clone is pure BS.