Topic '[DISH] Channel switch time?' in forum 'Cable & Satellite TV' - dslreports.com

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:47:38 EDT

CylonRed posted : I would rather not get the crap that TW is around here and pay a ton more. At least with Dish I have a choice - if it is 'sued' then I have a lot less choice. Choice for a consumer used to be better than less.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:17:05 EDT

Hall posted :

said by Hayward:

So hogging a lot of HD space for stuff you might not even want...just you might.

No it doesn't hog space (for other stuff).

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Mon, 18 Jun 2012 01:56:13 EDT

Hayward posted : So hogging a lot of HD space for stuff you might not even want...just you might.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 18:27:55 EDT

Steve Mehs posted : Hardly an advantage over cable. To even think that is laughable. How many people will watch up to 11 hours of TV, when most normal people actually have to go to sleep and go to work the next day? By the time I get home from work all of the previous nights shows are available On Demand. Having Dish’s Primetime Anytime gimmick would do nothing for me or millions of others.

Here’s a question, can Primetime Anytime record shows in their entirety when delayed by live sports or breaking news, or get interrupted by breaking news? If not, score one for cable.

Even DirecTVs lame excuse for On Demand is more practical than what Dish Notwork and Cheap Charlie conjured up. DirecTV has dedicated On Demand channels for I believe NBC and ABC. Care to take a guess why Dish opted to go the Primetime Anytime route over traditional On Demand? Answer – Cheap Charlie doesn’t have to pay for the rights for the content to be able to offer it on an OD basis. PTAT is just another way Dish is being Dish, a second rate TV provider.

Hopefully the networks can sue Dish out of existence with this latest lawsuit. That arrogant rat, Cheap Charlie needs to be smacked around a little bit and be brought back down to earth.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:25:42 EDT

Hall posted :

said by Steve Mehs:

I can’t really say I understand the whole concept of Primetime Anytime. Okay, so you have three networks with three hours worth of programming, and one network with two hours. That’s 11 hours’ worth of programming record every night. Now if you can wait 12 to 24 hours to watch that 11 hours of programming, I can see all of that On Demand on digital cable.

Sounds like Dish now has an advantage then... Instead of having to wait 12-24 hours, for the viewer to be able to watch this primetime programming, Dish viewers can watch it immediately after it's been broadcast. Even better, if they wait the same amount of time before cable viewers have to wait, they can watch those shows with no commercials.

Fact is, on-demand in the same form as available on cable is just not technically practical. So Dish came up with a viable alternative.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:16:23 EDT

Hall posted :

said by thomasjk:

The feature is called PrimeTimeAnyTime and has to be enabled. The user available space for recordings is 1TB and is not affected in either case.

Not sure if you're implying by this feature has to be enabled that the space reserved is otherwise available, because it is NOT. If you don't use PTAT, that space sits there unavailable and unused.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:15:05 EDT

Hall posted :

said by Hayward:

However the Hopper to record 6 things at once requires you have good digital OTA reception

Odd that it works then seeing as the Hopper has NO OTA capability (currently).

It works because for each local market, Dish has all of the local channels on the same transponder. They then use (1) tuner to record that entire transponder feed.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sun, 17 Jun 2012 03:00:26 EDT

Hayward posted : Then how does it record 6 things at one.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sat, 16 Jun 2012 16:20:53 EDT

np23 posted :

said by Hayward:

However the Hopper to record 6 things at once requires you have good digital OTA reception, it is still a 2 tuner/things at once Sat receiver otherwise.

That's not how Hopper even works. You're clueless, obviously, because Hopper can't even record OTA currently. Hopper records the locals over the satellite feed and since they're on 1 transponder it uses 1 of the 3 tuners.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:18:02 EDT

Steve Mehs posted : I can’t really say I understand the whole concept of Primetime Anytime. Okay, so you have three networks with three hours worth of programming, and one network with two hours. That’s 11 hours’ worth of programming record every night. Now if you can wait 12 to 24 hours to watch that 11 hours of programming, I can see all of that On Demand on digital cable. Been enjoying this feature on cable for years now, as usual Dish is behind the curve. In the end, Primetime Anytime will end up like the Pocket Dish. Anyone remember that failure? Nope, of course you don’t.

Just more garbage being pumped out my Charlie & Co.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:13:51 EDT

Hayward posted : And again if so only because they dont have to do the polarity shifts sat often does.

Still won't get me to take ALL bundle or costly nothing single feature IP UVERSE.

To quote NRA Charlton Heston they will have to pry my DSL from my cold dead hands.

And of course Uverse voice or data is no longer tied to gov quality regulated POTS I don't intend to let easily slip away either.

You all DO REALIZE that is WHY they want to do this??? I t releases them from all quallity of service reg garanttee.

And as many here will attest you hear stattic that is what is doing in your DSL.... forget calling Indian DSL CSR call POTS you get that problem fixed again regulated ASAP your DSL likely will be too.

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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 07:40:34 EDT

Vchat20 posted :

said by Hayward:

But even digital cable or UVerse is not instantant either as all digital needs to do a little buffering to to insure smooth flow. Even OTA digital channel switching is not instant.

Actually, as a Uverse user, the channel times ARE pretty much instant. Maybe a fraction of a second at best. At the very least it is NOTICABLY faster than every other digital TV provider (cable, sat, OTA).

-IF- channel change timing is that big of a delay for the OP, Uverse is the only currently option that will fill that requirement.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 11:57:17 EDT

thomasjk posted : No. Dish advertises PTAT as 6 programs at once. PTAT records the Big 4 networks off the one transponder that your locals are on. There are still 2 other turners for use. Thus 6 programs. OTA will be added this summer and provide and additional optional tuner.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 02:37:16 EDT

Hayward posted : As far as channel changing goes, Sat has two polarities (so two channels can be on same channel) and it takes time to switch between those feeds and buffer. You go from one V ch to another its quicker. But when you go from a V to H takes a bit longer.

But even digital cable or UVerse is not instantant either as all digital needs to do a little buffering to to insure smooth flow. Even OTA digital channel switching is not instant.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 01:58:34 EDT

Hayward posted : However the Hopper to record 6 things at once requires you have good digital OTA reception, it is still a 2 tuner/things at once Sat receiver otherwise.
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Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 21:09:42 EDT

davidhoffman posted : The house I regularly see DirecTV in has the older Whole House DVR set up with 3 additional HD receivers. They did have a new rewire job recently due to their upgrading to all HD televisions, the need to replace an antenna, and the installation technician deciding some of the old signal splitters and coax cable connectors were corroded too much. I do not know if that would help keep the channel change times low. I also have wondered if the 4 CCFL LCD Vizio televisions might be adding something to the change times. Maybe in the future the Vizios can replaced by some high end Panasonic Plasma televisions and that would help reduce channel change times.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 20:47:04 EDT

Nuckfuts posted :

said by davidhoffman:

Be careful with that DISH offer. The Hopper does not act as a standard DVR. Part of its recording capacity is walled off for some automatic recording of ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX prime-time programming.

My experience with DirecTV is 1 to 2 second channel changes.

I went from U-Verse to DirecTV. It takes about 1 second on my non-HD receivers and about 2-3 seconds on my HDDVR's. You will see better HDPQ with satellite especially sports, trust me.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 19:37:36 EDT

thomasjk posted : The feature is called PrimeTimeAnyTime and has to be enabled. The user available space for recordings is 1TB and is not affected in either case.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 18:21:17 EDT

davidhoffman posted : Be careful with that DISH offer. The Hopper does not act as a standard DVR. Part of its recording capacity is walled off for some automatic recording of ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX prime-time programming.

My experience with DirecTV is 1 to 2 second channel changes.

Re: [DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 16:37:33 EDT

videonex posted : I guess you're staying with U-Verse then. It's the nature of the beast in satellite tv.

[DISH] Channel switch time?

Thu, 31 May 2012 15:32:54 EDT

cowboyro posted : I'm contemplating switching from UVerse to Dish.
I have no other reason to switch besides getting a better price and a larger capacity DVR, I am happy with UVerse (despite what some may claim the picture that I get is crystal clear, no pixelation or freezing whatsoever, I understand this may not be the case in all regions but mine is good...).

I am curious about the real life lag for switching channels. So far I got used to virtually instantaneous switching (literally the blink of an eye), while many sat receivers that I've seen in the past took in the 2-5 sec range to switch channels. That would be a deal breaker.
Thoughts?