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TamaraB
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Inter-governmental controls

Given our government's continued attempts to control the world wide web, for the world at large, perhaps it would be a bit more democratic for the UN to take care of it. "Inter-governmental controls" seem more fair to me than one-government controls.

Bob


dks7

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Screw democracy, America is a constitutional republic, and the UN could screw up a cup of coffee. Since their creation all they've managed to do is make life miserable for millions of people, not to mention murder, rape, and torture.



N3OGH
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reply to TamaraB
I would really prefer to maintain the status quo on this issue.

My father used to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I think ICANN is doing a fine job of things.

The UN, on the other hand has a history of some pretty wacky activity. I think it's great that Nations can come together in a common forum in an attempt to settle their differences and such, but I don't get the warm & fuzzies over the notion of the UN being in control of it.
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reply to TamaraB
Oh yeah, and the UN has a stellar track record. BTW, the UN is controlled by the IMF which is essentially the UK, US, and Germany. The top 5 "donators" to UN make up 60% of it's revenue and the US is almost a quarter... So what's the difference. It's all a sham.

It reminds me of star trek. The united federation of planets is majority human (US) and the rest of the races play a secondary role. And then the SG (UN) is always some guy from a country with no juice, just the way the banks like it -- some weak diplomat.

If the UN got control DN registration would at least double, you would have to fill out 30 pieces of paper to register a domain, give blood, proof you are a minion, and consent to monitoring and regulation galore.

This is all crap because as of 2009 (GAC) they are moving to a private model. This is all about governments taking control so they can control what information you get, nothing more.



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reply to N3OGH

said by N3OGH:

I would really prefer to maintain the status quo on this issue.

My father used to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I think ICANN is doing a fine job of things.

The UN, on the other hand has a history of some pretty wacky activity. I think it's great that Nations can come together in a common forum in an attempt to settle their differences and such, but I don't get the warm & fuzzies over the notion of the UN being in control of it.

Yeah until Romney wins in November and appoints Rick Santorum as Attorney General.


Uncle Paul

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Vs Holder... what a choice.



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reply to TamaraB
Because you don't want world politics (buying and selling votes) entering into internet management.



pnh102
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said by BF69:

Yeah until Romney wins in November and appoints Rick Santorum as Attorney General.

At least Santorum won't be running guns into the hands of Mexican drug lords.
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said by pnh102:

At least Santorum won't be running guns into the hands of Mexican drug lords.

No, just into the hands of the jesus-freak fundy millennialist Talibanistan wackos! Give me a drug dealer any day.


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said by TamaraB:

Given our government's continued attempts to control the world wide web, for the world at large, perhaps it would be a bit more democratic for the UN to take care of it. "Inter-governmental controls" seem more fair to me than one-government controls.

Bob

You mean the how the UN has that wonderful human rights council that has/had such stellar members as Cuba, Pakistan, Turkey, and Nigeria just to name a few of the worst human rights abusers.


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said by TamaraB:

said by pnh102:

At least Santorum won't be running guns into the hands of Mexican drug lords.

No, just into the hands of the jesus-freak fundy millennialist Talibanistan wackos! Give me a drug dealer any day.

Good luck and enjoy your move to Mexico then and don't let the border gate hit you in the ass as you pass through. Hope you make it longer than a month before you are dismembered while still alive.


pnh102
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said by TamaraB:

No, just into the hands of the jesus-freak fundy millennialist Talibanistan wackos! Give me a drug dealer any day.

You need to be more tolerant of people who are different than you.
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pnh102
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Good luck and enjoy your move to Mexico then and don't let the border gate hit you in the ass as you pass through. Hope you make it longer than a month before you are dismembered while still alive.

Maybe the fact that Holder's illegal gun-running scheme resulted in the death of a law enforcement agent is why the OP prefers him to the alternative.
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N3OGH
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Personally, I think you've got a better chance of seeing Donald Trump as VP than you do of seeing Santorum as AG.

Even folks here in PA (where I've lived my whole life) pretty much see him as a flake.

I've got no clue why Romney is giving Trump the attention he is. IMHO, George Will is completely on target with his analysis of Trump. I totally see him as a buffoon.

In the long run, given a choice between the UN and Santorum? I'll pick Santorum. I'm not a fan, but he's less of a carny side show than the UN...
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PapaMidnight

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said by N3OGH:

I would really prefer to maintain the status quo on this issue.

My father used to say "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I think ICANN is doing a fine job of things.

»arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011···mistake/
...
Do tell.


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ICANN != ICE



TamaraB
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said by pnh102:

You need to be more tolerant of people who are different than you.

I have no tolerance for self-imposed ignorance. Ignorance is forgivable, and there is a cure, but there is no excuse, nor forgiveness for self-imposed stupidity. Especially when that stupidity resides in a poll, and has the ability to affect secular government policy.

Bob
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Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I see no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot."

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said by TamaraB:

said by pnh102:

You need to be more tolerant of people who are different than you.

I have no tolerance for self-imposed ignorance. Ignorance is forgivable, and there is a cure, but there is no excuse, nor forgiveness for self-imposed stupidity. Especially when that stupidity resides in a poll, and has the ability to affect secular government policy.

Bob

Because someone disagrees with you they are ignorant. Textbook do as I say, not as I do. Claim you aren't an intolerant oaf in the guise that the group of people you are intolerant too all did it to themselves.


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said by NOCTech75:

Because someone disagrees with you they are ignorant.

Not "disagrees" with ME, but disagrees with FACTS. I have no respect, nor tolerance (nor should any sane human) for flat earthers for example. They intentionally disagree with FACTS (like FOX news does). Everyone is allowed their own "opinions", no one is allowed their own FACTS. Facts are FACTS. Equating a fact with an opinion labels one an irredeamable ignoramus, not worthy of any respect or tolerance.

Bob
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Gunpowder, Treason and Plot.
I see no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot."

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people"



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said by TamaraB:

said by NOCTech75:

Because someone disagrees with you they are ignorant.

Not "disagrees" with ME, but disagrees with FACTS. I have no respect, nor tolerance (nor should any sane human) for flat earthers for example. They intentionally disagree with FACTS (like FOX news does). Everyone is allowed their own "opinions", no one is allowed their own FACTS. Facts are FACTS. Equating a fact with an opinion labels one an irredeamable ignoramus, not worthy of any respect or tolerance.

Bob

Ohhh, so whatever you say is fact. Got it, nice way to stroke your ego. Anything coming out of your mouth is a fact, while anything anyone else says who doesn't agree with your piehole makes things up.

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