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Re: Shaw Gateway / Portal - ETHERNET PORTFrom what I've been told, the answer is "no".
It's certainly possible since the gateway and portals use MoCA to serve up networking, but from what I was told, they aren't active. |
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 kevinds
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kevinds
Premium Member
2012-Jun-1 2:10 am
I know others have used MoCA to ethernet adapaters,
And connected the Portals via ethernet.
I don't know all what others have tried with them.
Ethernet on the Gateway to Ethernet on Portals, does not work.
What you want, I don't think so. |
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I have the definitive on the current status of this from my testing:
1. The Gateway does not connect to the internet at this time. The ethernet ports on the gateway are not currently used. Shaw has plans for them in the future. It is said that the gateway and portals will be able to connect to a DNLA server and do exactly what you are using your WD Live's for.
2. The Ethernet Port on the Portals is an alternative to the MoCA cable port on them. They both function the same. If you plug the port's ethernet port into a MoCA bridge, then you can watch TV the same (but with your last cable run being Cat5e). If you plug anything else into that ethernet port, it probably won't do anything but see the portal trying to DHCP, or something, if the coax MoCA cable is unplugged.
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Bottom Line: No.
Will this be available in the future: Possibly, when the gateway is also connecting to the internet and acting as your home's gateway to the internet. T.
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What solution will you need? Wifi, Cat5e/Cat6, or Powerline networking.
MoCA Bridge's won't help you if you connect them to your internet modem (shaw will install one) or internet modem/router unit. The Portals re-DHCP every now and then, and will lose connectivity to your gateway and you won't be able to watch TV.
I use powerline networking due to this, which is a good alternative. Look for Powerline AV500 products, they can carry 720P reliably, but not 1080P. |
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Yeah this has been a HIGHLY requested feature since the May Customer Focus groups in 2011. However despite this Shaw development and planning are dragging their heels it seems not his and few other requested features. I wish they would keep us more informed.
P.S. Sorry if I sound like I am in a pissy mood, just having a bad day. |
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to ravenchilde
Darn - I will be returning my Gateway and 2xPortals then and cancelling my installation. Shaw needs to get their sh*** together if they don't want to be cleaned out by Telus. |
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to ravenchilde
Just wanted to thank you for the great info ravenchilde - I really appreciate it. |
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I'm sorry that won't work out for you.
The Shaw Gateway was built by a different manufacturer than the Cisco units being used by Telus. So therefore they have different functionality.
Powerline networking would let you switch to Shaw and get your WD Live's working. Or wifi. |
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fender
join:2007-07-23
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fender
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2012-Jun-1 7:30 pm
I have never seen PowerLine networking function well enough to handle HD streaming.
It works fine for my printer but I wouldn't want to use it for anything more. |
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said by ravenchilde:Will this be available in the future: Possibly, when the gateway is also connecting to the internet and acting as your home's gateway to the internet. T.
Last tech that was out, a couple months back, stated that it was definitely in the works and would probably be live by the end of the year. Whether there's any reality in his statements is another story. |
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to amorak
said by amorak:Darn - I will be returning my Gateway and 2xPortals then and cancelling my installation. Shaw needs to get their sh*** together if they don't want to be cleaned out by Telus.
That's probably one of the most laughable statements I've ever read. Enjoy sharing your bandwidth with your TV, enjoy slower speeds, non-bridgeable modem and sub-par support across the board. After our experiences with Telus, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone. |
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Doonz (banned)
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to amorak
said by amorak:Darn - I will be returning my Gateway and 2xPortals then and cancelling my installation. Shaw needs to get their sh*** together if they don't want to be cleaned out by Telus.
Sorry that you feel this way. But please dont compare using the shaw gateway system to Telus offering as the underlying technologies act very different |
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fender
join:2007-07-23
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fender
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2012-Jun-2 2:00 pm
Yeah. One is actually pure IPTV.
I'm not an anti-shaw person... please don't misunderstand.
I do wish that they would move to actual IPTV, though. |
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kevinds
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kevinds
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2012-Jun-2 2:30 pm
What would be a big advantage of IPTV be, that QAM doesn't provide?
Using 360 as a terminal? But the gateway could provide this.
Only advantage I can think of right now is the guide would know which channels you subscribe to. Which is minor.
-Posted from my phone. |
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fender
join:2007-07-23
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fender
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2012-Jun-4 4:54 pm
What do you think provides the best opportunity for quality?
1) Superior codec and delivering 8 simultaneous high quality streams...
or ..
2) trying to cram 200 channels down the pipe simultaneously. |
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Doonz (banned)
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Doonz (banned)
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2012-Jun-4 5:43 pm
said by fender:What do you think provides the best opportunity for quality?
1) Superior codec and delivering 8 simultaneous high quality streams...
or ..
2) trying to cram 200 channels down the pipe simultaneously.
Oy Vey Telus forum -----> That Way |
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kevinds
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to fender
Coax hardware currently deployed is rated 1GHz? Cable good to 3GHz
Approx 150 6MHz 'pipes' are possible now.
But again, that is Telus vs Shaw,
Not a benift of IPTV, which can be deployed on coax as well.
I ask again, what benift is there over QAM?
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to Doonz
I'm not a Telus customer.
I'm just lamenting that my initial excitement about Shaw's Gateway was destroyed when I discovered that it was only IPTV on-premises fed by QAM. |
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Obviously the benefit is that because Telus TV is broadcast directly through fiber, the channels come in
- More clearly (Have you tried shining a flashlight through a copper cable? You can barely see anything)
- Sound is more crystal clear (Cause fiber is more like crystal)
- News are less cloudy and convoluted (Transparent like the glass in the Fiberglass)
- Price is also better because glass is cheaper than metal
Overall it's the best choice around, and we should all just realize that and update our RSS feeds for the new shows that are coming out this fall, because let's face it, with our outdated, low-q connections, it would probably take us a whooping 3-4 hours to download our month's worth of TV poison.
Hows that for a Telus troll Doonz? |
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Doonz (banned)
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Doonz (banned)
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2012-Jun-4 6:18 pm
said by ilianame:Obviously the benefit is that because Telus TV is broadcast directly through fiber, the channels come in
- More clearly (Have you tried shining a flashlight through a copper cable? You can barely see anything)
- Sound is more crystal clear (Cause fiber is more like crystal)
- News are less cloudy and convoluted (Transparent like the glass in the Fiberglass)
- Price is also better because glass is cheaper than metal
Overall it's the best choice around, and we should all just realize that and update our RSS feeds for the new shows that are coming out this fall, because let's face it, with our outdated, low-q connections, it would probably take us a whooping 3-4 hours to download our month's worth of TV poison.
Hows that for a Telus troll Doonz?
Bahahah I woulda just thought you were a telus salesman/woman with that spiel EDIT: Can IPTV do this without breaking your tv viewing experience? In:2.57 TB OUT:0.28 TB |
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Bahahah I woulda just thought you were a telus salesman/woman with that spiel
Optik mean's it's FTTH right? |
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Doonz (banned)
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Doonz (banned)
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2012-Jun-4 6:23 pm
said by ravenchilde:Bahahah I woulda just thought you were a telus salesman/woman with that spiel
Optik mean's it's FTTH right? No im coining a new one. FTTPC |
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