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RR Conductor
NWP RR Inc.,serving NW CA
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Redwood Valley, CA
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Then there are areas like ours, without DSL.

"Still, 5 million homes in AT&T’s coverage area are located too far away from a network hub to receive any kind of broadband, Ratcliffe said."

Which would be those of us in Redwood Valley (appx. halfway between Ukiah and Willits), where AT&T hasn't even upgraded the CO for DSL, and anyplace else in our rural county (Mendocino) outside of Ukiah, Willits or Fort Bragg. Verizon serves the northern half of the county, but only has DSL in Laytonville. We do get Comcast HSI out in Redwood Valley though, I have the Blast! Tier (20/4, 35/6 with PowerBoost).


RR Conductor
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Now, when it comes to AT&T Wireless, well, we do have HSPA+ w/EB from them, I get up to 10 Mbps down with that, though we don't have LTE yet (from AT&T, Verizon or U.S. Cellular). So it seems AT&T's wireless network is running quite a bit ahead of their wired network, at least here.

mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
said by RR Conductor:

Now, when it comes to AT&T Wireless, well, we do have HSPA+ w/EB from them, I get up to 10 Mbps down with that, though we don't have LTE yet (from AT&T, Verizon or U.S. Cellular). So it seems AT&T's wireless network is running quite a bit ahead of their wired network, at least here.

They probably ran fiber out to all their cell towers instead of installing U-Verse. More profit in it for them!


RR Conductor
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said by mogamer:

said by RR Conductor:

Now, when it comes to AT&T Wireless, well, we do have HSPA+ w/EB from them, I get up to 10 Mbps down with that, though we don't have LTE yet (from AT&T, Verizon or U.S. Cellular). So it seems AT&T's wireless network is running quite a bit ahead of their wired network, at least here.

They probably ran fiber out to all their cell towers instead of installing U-Verse. More profit in it for them!

Actually, most sites here are backhauled via Microwave (due to the rugged terrain, forest cover and many isolated areas), and that goes for all the carriers (ATT, VZ, USCC, TMO, Metro PCS). What they do is put a site in an area where it can get as much copper and/or fiber as possible, then backhaul several outlying sites from it via microwave.


RR Conductor
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reply to RR Conductor
That said, all of their CO's are linked via fiber, even ours in Redwood Valley, so they just have never bothered to put in DSL equipment in it.

jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA
reply to mogamer
They're using FTTCT!


tshirt
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Snohomish, WA
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reply to RR Conductor
One of the problems is most Co's are full, there is no room for the extra equipment racks for xDSL or even fiber.
In some cases it's not possible/practical to expand the building footprint to cover all the demand.
even RT's have to link back to something, so adding new RT's can be a multi year process as they replace older bulky equipment serving other areas to make room for additional new circuits.


mike 10

@sbc.com
The CO are no where near full. Most are half empty.

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
or half full.

WhatNow
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Charlotte, NC
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When they went to digital switches most rural or small town COs are now half empty.
If they allowed higher caps or a wireless antenna at the house wireless would be a better deal then rural dsl. The density is just not there for short cable runs. It is getting worse for ATT because their customers are dropping the landlines for wireless and it is even worse if they can not even get dsl. So they are getting less and less revenue to maintain the plant that is there.
Uverse was cutting edge when they started but now ATT is being left in the dust compared to cable and Fios.


RR Conductor
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reply to RR Conductor
Even if they upgrade our CO for DSL, you still have the problem of distance, as most people in this rural area are spread out. There are about 6000 people in Redwood Valley (while there is a TINY town of Redwood Valley, it's not incorporated, only Ukiah, Willits, Fort Bragg and Point Arena are incorporated in Mendocino County), but they're all spread out for the most part, so you'd have to put in RT's as well. At my house, for example we're 20,000+ cable feet from the CO, though physically we're about 2 miles away from it.

25139889

join:2011-10-25
Toledo, OH
reply to WhatNow
again; or half full

You really can't compare U-Verse to FiOS as being left in the dust- they only complete in what? 2 or 3 towns? If 3?

They should be worried about cable; but many of those same people can't get cable either. at&t should just build out a fixed wireless solution and have at it. They've done it before under Ed in AK and I believe in AR. It worked, and its been proven to still work today.