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Immer
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reply to Caelharrad

Re: [Poll] First to MoP

said by Caelharrad:

First character to 90 will be my main (Caelharrad, marks hunter). He's rocking full T13 (LFR) right now, so it will be weird to start swapping in quest greens as I play through the new zones.

that part always sucks. I've learned to replace my purples as soon as possible like ripping off a bandage. the stats could be good for a couple levels or so... but I need to break the attachment.
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stonhinge
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IIRC, it'll probably be the 2nd zone in before you start replacing 397s. The first area is mostly 372/383. Dungeons start out at higher, 425 for level 85 dungeon drops.
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JoelC707
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Yeah I didn't replace my Quel'delar on my DK until Uldum. Ramkahen Ceremonial Hammer. Same exact stats, just higher. I had some gear that got replaced pretty quick and some that I kept till 85 cause I never found a suitable replacement lol.



Caelharrad

join:2012-04-13
Fenton, MO
reply to Immer

said by Immer:

said by Caelharrad:

First character to 90 will be my main (Caelharrad, marks hunter). He's rocking full T13 (LFR) right now, so it will be weird to start swapping in quest greens as I play through the new zones.

that part always sucks. I've learned to replace my purples as soon as possible like ripping off a bandage. the stats could be good for a couple levels or so... but I need to break the attachment.

Well, given that the T13 2-pc bonus is absolutely GODLY for hunters (double focus from steady/cobra shot), I think I'll be keeping at least 2-piece T13 for quite awhile, probably until I start acquiring some MoP dungeon/T14 gear.


Immer
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that all depends on stat inflation in MoP. I haven't looked into it really.



bTU

join:2009-04-22
Aurora, CO

said by Immer:

that all depends on stat inflation in MoP. I haven't looked into it really.

It's there if you get the dungeon blues right off the bat, though it isn't like Cata where your ilvl 272 heroic ICC 25 gear was replaced by the first crafted greens or green drops in Hyjal that were ilvl 278. Most toons or for most of us, alts that are in ilvl 378 and some 397 gear won't be changing gear until the 2nd zone if all you're looking at is quest and drop greens.
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DarkLogix
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Whats the word on gems in MoP?

And have there been enough QQ yet to keep head enchants? (atleast for older content?)



Nick D
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Mists gems have double allocations of non-primary stats (instead of equal). That means (using the rare gem Cata scales), you'd have a choice between 40 int and 80 haste (or a 20 int/40 haste hybrid). I don't believe they're changing what stats are what colors.

The "legendary" questline appears to reward +500 primary stat gems for use in weapons from the last bosses of Heart of Fear and Terrace. WoWDB currently has the weapons listed as having a "hydraulic socket", but I'd wager that's just a data mining quirk.

EDIT: Legendary stuff from MMO:

Legendary Questline Update
After meeting Wrathion and sharing a drink with him, he gives you a quest that requires you to collect Sigil of Power x 10 and Sigil of Wisdom x 10.

When LFR opened for testing tonight, we found that Sigil of Power drops from every boss 100% of the time. It appears as a quest objective in the tooltips for most bosses in Raid Finder difficulty, but drops from all of the bosses that have been killed so far.

Earlier today, we saw that Sigil of Wisdom appeared as a quest objective on Grand Empress Shek'zeer's tooltip in 25 Man Normal Difficulty Heart of Fear. Unfortunately, no one was able to kill her to confirm that it actually drops. Keep in mind that this is beta and things can change in the future and may not be working as intended.

Once 10 of each Sigil has been collected, Warthion sends you into the Terrace of Endless Spring to defeat the Sha of Fear. Before entering the Terrace of Endless Spring, you must have completed the Heart of Fear raid. Upon defeating the Sha of Fear you will loot a Chimera of Fear from him and bring it back to Wrathion.

When the items that you collected are combined, you will be able to choose from a Crystallized Dread, Crystallized Horror, or Crystallized Terror gem. These gems are unique equipped, and go into a Sha-Touched socket in the weapons below. These weapons drop from bosses in Terrace of the Endless Spring and the last boss of Heart of Fear.

Update: It appears Accession (US-Stormreaver) was able to kill the Grand Empress Shek'zeer and confirm that a single Sigil of Wisdom dropped. The first person to loot the boss with the quest got it.

Also, don't forget that you could originally get Elementium Gem Cluster from LFR on the Patch 4.3 PTR, which turned out to be a bug. When introducing the Raid Finder, Blizzard said "Also, there are certain items, as well as components for legendary weapons, which will not drop in Raid Finder raids".


Vinceruos_t

join:2012-05-04
reply to bTU

"It's there if you get the dungeon blues right off the bat, though it isn't like Cata where your ilvl 272 heroic ICC 25 gear was replaced by the first crafted greens or green drops in Hyjal that were ilvl 278"

Well, close, I guess... 25 H ICC gear was 277 and the green cata gear is 272. You didnt replace your H ICC gear until lvl 83 from deepholme quests. So yes, you will get some use out of your H DS gear for the first 2 lvls.



DarkLogix
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So in MoP instead of having a legendary weapon they're doing a legendary gem that makes the weapon awesome?



Nick D
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That appears to be the case.

However, there's a theory that the legendary questline is throughout the entire expansion. e.g. you get a gem for 5.0, and the 5.1 raids continue it along and you get something else (or keep building towards a proper legendary in 5.2).

That's all speculation though.



DarkLogix
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said by Nick D:

That appears to be the case.

However, there's a theory that the legendary questline is throughout the entire expansion. e.g. you get a gem for 5.0, and the 5.1 raids continue it along and you get something else (or keep building towards a proper legendary in 5.2).

That's all speculation though.

But if that's the case then will it be possible to UN-socket the special gem?

Or some quest to exchange the weapon to get the gem back?


Nick D
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Nooooo idea, but I'd wager they just do it as a quest chain: have to complete the gem quest to continue on.

I'd anticipate you end up gemming the weapon you think will be BiS given your progression. If you're killing heroic Terrace, you wait til then. If you think the best you get before t15 is normal mode, then that. If you're an LFR ranger, then you slot in that sucker.

But then again, LFR rangers probably won't get the legendary thing (even if its enabled for testing). The fancy part is that while one piece does drop in LFR right now, the other piece only drops off 25 man Heart of Fear (last boss). So maybe they're going back to 25-man-or-bust for legendaries?

Ahhh beta



DarkLogix
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Well I'm really hoping the current guild levels fast and gets into MoP fast.

I really want a shot at doing heroic stuff pre-nerf and such.



JB
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reply to Nick D

said by Nick D:

So maybe they're going back to 25-man-or-bust for legendaries?

Sure hope so.
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DarkLogix
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said by JB:

said by Nick D:

So maybe they're going back to 25-man-or-bust for legendaries?

Sure hope so.

I have mixed feelings

1. the guild I'm in right now just doesn't have hte people on for 25-mans

2. I just changed guilds so I guess if I need to change again then so be it, though next time I think it'll have to be xfering

btw any word on the effect of xfering on the staff quest?


bTU

join:2009-04-22
Aurora, CO
reply to JB

said by JB:

said by Nick D:

So maybe they're going back to 25-man-or-bust for legendaries?

Sure hope so.

That would just be fucking retarded if they did. I hated that whole thing in BC and Wrath that you had to be in a 25 man raiding guild to see certain things, or get better gear. Just because someone is in a guild with less people in it doesn't mean they should be left at the wayside for legendaries if they and the guild they are in have the skill to raid but not the people for 25's.
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DarkLogix
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said by bTU:

said by JB:

said by Nick D:

So maybe they're going back to 25-man-or-bust for legendaries?

Sure hope so.

That would just be fucking retarded if they did. I hated that whole thing in BC and Wrath that you had to be in a 25 man raiding guild to see certain things, or get better gear. Just because someone is in a guild with less people in it doesn't mean they should be left at the wayside for legendaries if they and the guild they are in have the skill to raid but not the people for 25's.

Ya

then again its annoying when you have to have a sub-optimal group and that happens easily in 10man.


bTU

join:2009-04-22
Aurora, CO

That's actually what can make being in a 10 man guild harder. No class and spec stacking for all optimal buffs and no stacking the FOTM class whether for tanks, DPS or heals.
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DarkLogix
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Ya last week we didn't have a druid and only one pali.

So only 1 of those 2 buffs.

then we didn't have the 5% haste buff

On the upside the lock game me DI.

Still we were able to do a full clear with 3 heroics, seems normally they have a 3rd healer with MS DPS so they opted not to do warlord on heroic.

And I'm so far still hopeful than come MoP we'll be able to jump into it.

BTW any word on Xrealm raiding DS when MoP hits?
It'd still be nice to finish out DS-heroic for the achev and maybe do the meta.



JB
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said by bTU:

That's actually what can make being in a 10 man guild harder. No class and spec stacking for all optimal buffs and no stacking the FOTM class whether for tanks, DPS or heals.

Because you can't do that in 10man
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Nick D
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reply to DarkLogix

I'm hoping they allow cross-real DS in 5.0 (as in the expansion pre-patch). I'm sure they'll continue the trend of "everything but current tier".



Nick D
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reply to JB

Compromise JB: legendaries for 25 man, same gear otherwise?

That might be where it's heading. Keeps the legendary pool for dedicated guilds, and a much better incentive to raid 25s than a few more valor points.



JB
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I didn't say anything about 10v25m gear. That being the same is fine. 25man only legendaries would definitely give guilds a reason to run 25s again, currently there really is no reason not to LoLsteamroll10mans.
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DarkLogix
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reply to Nick D

said by Nick D:

Compromise JB: legendaries for 25 man, same gear otherwise?

That might be where it's heading. Keeps the legendary pool for dedicated guilds, and a much better incentive to raid 25s than a few more valor points.

If they do that I'm gonna have to get a new guild again, and I had just found one that raids at a time that's good for me.

But I bet its just loot tables aren't final


Nick D
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reply to JB

Just clarifying.

It's a pretty reasonable solution. Though it does depend on the nature of the legendary.

"Hey I'ma join a 25 man guild as a warrior because I can help a dude get a caster staff!" -that won't fly

"Hey I'ma join a 25 man guild as a warrior because everyone gets a legendary gem that gives them +500 primary stat!" -there's a good incentive

I suppose calling it a legendary at this point becomes silly. Let's go with the new "elite" moniker that they're using for doing a fight the extra hard way.

Have elite tags been discussed on this site? I forget.



McBrain
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reply to DarkLogix

said by DarkLogix:

Ya last week we didn't have a druid and only one pali.

Last week I did a DS 10, this was the make-up:

Warrior Tank
Rogue
Hunter x2 (both sucked nuts and used cats)
Enh Shaman (me)
Frost DK
Warlock
Resto Shaman
Disc Priest
Holy Priest

Talk about lack of buffs...
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DarkLogix
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reply to Nick D

If the drop rate is 100% and you just need 10 of each that doesn't sound legendary.

Sounds more like ok run this for 10weeks and you'll have your thing if your guild picks you first, then 10 more weeks and #2 gets it.

IMO that's just crap. and sounds like the road to legendaries for everyone.



DarkLogix
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reply to McBrain

said by McBrain:

said by DarkLogix:

Ya last week we didn't have a druid and only one pali.

Last week I did a DS 10, this was the make-up:

Warrior Tank
Rogue
Hunter x2 (both sucked nuts and used cats)
Enh Shaman (me)
Frost DK
Warlock
Resto Shaman
Disc Priest
Holy Priest

Talk about lack of buffs...

Ya, in 25 you'd assume you'll have everything but in 10man you have to be careful to get everything.

BTW I still don't get whats up with Pali's almost every time that I'm in a raid with more than 2 (sometimes even with 2) they put on the same aura, and its like they don't even try


Nick D
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reply to McBrain

Every goddamn hunter who pugs and doesn't have a Dragonhawk/Wind Serpent makes me so sad.

Stable should be:
Cat for soloing/5 mans (because really when was the last time you raided without a DK, warrior, or shaman?)
Wolf (which seems to not make the cut in most of my groups; lots o' fury warriors, ferals, and ele shamans. Even the occasional sub rogue)
Dragonhawk/Wind Serpent (because no rogues play mut, only a few moonkins, and warlocks are still the least played class)
Ravager (rogues and frost DKs are more plentiful than above)
Whatever for the 5th (best is probably Raptor for sunder, but I end up in groups with a lot of warriors and cats. Hyena if you're really hard up for bleeds and your rogues cry. Otherwise, a tank pet is just fine, or whatever you find prettiest)

EDIT:

The missing buffs in that group are Stats (the big one, I'd admit), 5% crit (unless rogue was sub), 3% damage, and Replen (unless warlock was destro). Hunters can solve the first three (though admittedly only by being BM). So it really wasn't TOO bad.

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