Topic '[Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?' in forum 'Bell Canada' - dslreports.com

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:05:46 EDT

Glen1 posted : "There are three minimum interference channels: 1, 6, 11." taken from this page: »wireless.wikia.com/wiki/Wi-Fi So yes it does matter which channels you choose.
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Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:16:19 EDT

glussier posted : it doesn't matter which channels are being used, as long as the 2 or 3 channels you are using are far enough apart. Where I live, channel 6 is the most used channel. I live in a high density population area. Channels 1 and 9, are the ones I use, because they are the only 2 unused channels.

Signals are so strong, that, if I wanted to, I could get free internet.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 18:06:37 EDT

glussier posted : You want the access point hooked to a lan port and not a wan port.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Sun, 10 Jun 2012 07:42:17 EDT

anon posted :

said by mariospants:

said by glussier:

That's what I do. I have the Sagecom modem (SNIP)

Anyway, if you have any problem configuring your devices this way, post again. This is a real easy setup.

... I tried using a network cable from the Sagecom Lanport 1 to both the repeater and the old 2-wire modem ...

The 2-wire doesn't have a WAN port, I don't think using a LAN port would work

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:20:34 EDT

Glen1 posted : The 3 distinct channels available are 1, 6 and 11. That is the recommended blend of channels when you are using close proximity access points. I would definitely use different SSIDs for each device to easily identify which device you are connecting to.

edit: there is a free program that will show you the strength and number of wireless devices in your area and it is quite effective:
»www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
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Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:37:43 EDT

glussier posted : Might be that the sagecom was set to the same channel as the other access point. Set the channels manually.

To determine which channels were less used in my area, I used wifi analyser on my cell phone. I then set the Sagecom to channel 1 and the access point (router used as an access point) to channel 9.

Don't set the access point to close to the Sagecom modem, as your wifi devices might try to switch from the Sagecom to your access point repeatedly.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:07:35 EDT

mariospants posted :

said by glussier:

That's what I do. I have the Sagecom modem (SNIP)

Anyway, if you have any problem configuring your devices this way, post again. This is a real easy setup.

OK, that was incredibly helpful information, thanks! I noticed something, however: I tried using a network cable from the Sagecom Lanport 1 to both the repeater and the old 2-wire modem (in case either had appreciably better coverage than the sagecom) and in both attempts - even with same and different ssid - something happened to the quality of bandwidth on the Sagecom. It slowed appreciably and even had some timeouts. The channel setting on the Sagecom was set to "Auto" so I don't think there was a conflict...

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:23:15 EDT

glussier posted : That's what I do. I have the Sagecom modem in the front of the house, I have one of the dlink powerline adaptor connected to 1 of the lan ports of the Sagecom. At the back of the house, I have a dlink router connected to the back of the house and one of it's lan ports connected to the other dlink powerline adapter.

I have full wifi coverage over all the house and backyard. give both modem/router the same ssid and password and wifi security settings and set them to different wifi channel. This way your devices won't have to chase a new wifi ssid all the time, your device will just pick up the strongest wifi signal.

I paid 69,00 for a set of 2 dlink powerline adpators and they work great.

BTW, also note that you have to change the gateway of your repeater device to the same subnet as your sagecom modem (ie 192.168.x), x being a digit wich is not part of the Sagecom dhcp range).

Anyway, if you have any problem configuring your devices this way, post again. This is a real easy setup.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:37:26 EDT

mariospants posted :

said by glussier:

You would get better wifi coverage, if you would configure your device as an access point. This way the wifi signal of both devices do not have to overlap.

If you don't have network cables running thru your house, and don't want to install them, just get a starter kit network powerline adapters.

I was considering that... makes sense, I guess then I'd just install that and put the second AP downstairs near the backyard for boosting the signal.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:35:18 EDT

glussier posted : You would get better wifi coverage, if you would configure your device as an access point. This way the wifi signal of both devices do not have to overlap.

If you don't have network cables running thru your house, and don't want to install them, just get a starter kit network powerline adapters.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:37:48 EDT

mariospants posted : ok, what's the point in going wireless then? I tore the wires out of my century house when we did renovations recently, and now this "latest and greatest" sagecom sucker won't reach everywhere in the house (and certainly not too far outside). I just need to extend my wireless range, not run more cables.

I did run a cable to the 2nd AP and unfortunately the coverage was hardly better. I'm going to attach the 2-wire instead and see if it's sufficient (at 10/10 power it seems to be the best so far). What I want to be able to do is repeat or boost the wifi signal so that it can reach roughly 50-100' with thick walls in the way... I'm betting it probably can't be done, can it?

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:28:29 EDT

mariospants posted : OK, that's actually what I was doing - and discovered that my repeater wasn't broadcasting any better than the sagecom (and still worse than the 2-wire, which is turning out to actually have been a half-decent wifi device).

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:06:47 EDT

Cloneman posted : wireless-to-wireless bridging sucks

don't be lazy, run a cable to the 2nd AP.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:31:42 EDT

JCohen posted :

said by zorxd:

and it doesn't need to be port 1

Good to know, I'm a cable user so bridging a cable modem requires using port 1.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 16:19:18 EDT

zorxd posted : and it doesn't need to be port 1

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:42:30 EDT

Marshal posted :

said by JCohen:

said by mariospants:

Sorry for the rudimentary question, but I didn't see the bridge mode exposed in the Bell admin interface for the sagecom... has anybody successfully bridged this bad daddy?

To put the Sagemcom into bridge mode you just need to remove the PPPoE login details from it and than connect a router to port 1 and use that to establish a PPPoE connection.

no need to remove them. just plug the router and have it initiate the pppoe connection.
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Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:41:45 EDT

JCohen posted :

said by mariospants:

Sorry for the rudimentary question, but I didn't see the bridge mode exposed in the Bell admin interface for the sagecom... has anybody successfully bridged this bad daddy?

To put the Sagemcom into bridge mode you just need to remove the PPPoE login details from it and than connect a router to port 1 and use that to establish a PPPoE connection.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:21:58 EDT

mariospants posted : Sorry for the rudimentary question, but I didn't see the bridge mode exposed in the Bell admin interface for the sagecom... has anybody successfully bridged this bad daddy?

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:19:36 EDT

JCohen posted : Get a wireless router that support Tomato or DD-WRT and use the Sagemcom in bridge mode. Personally I would never use the router in a modem/router combo unit as they're generally pretty bad.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:09:25 EDT

mariospants posted : Well, I tried it and it didn't help matters much... was the 2-wire at 10/10 power so much better a product??? I don't understand why the repeater could not repeat or universal repeat the signal... what's the point of all of this wireless technology if I can't extend the signal wirelessly?

I guess maybe I should try a different tack and start a thread inquiring: what's the best method for extending or improving the range of a Sagecom...

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:26:04 EDT

cloud8521 posted : 5e wold work just as well

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 23:02:20 EDT

jsmaster posted : try another channel bandwith. I was on 20 mhz. changed it for 40 mhz and solved the issues

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:49:43 EDT

mariospants posted : agreed; I hear that it drops by 50% between repeats. I'll hook it up directly and see if the repeater has better coverage than this - so far disappointing - sagecom

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 18:54:27 EDT

Glen1 posted : Wireless to wireless repeating is very low bandwidth compared to connecting the second device to a Gigabit port and running Cat 6 to your repeater...the available bandwidth with a "wired' connection would therefore be much more advisable.
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Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:59:48 EDT

mariospants posted : I'll give it a try... kind of wish I could range boost by using wireless-to-wireless repeating *sigh*

thanks!

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:52:22 EDT

JCohen posted : I'd suggest just plugging it directly into the Sagemcom and disabling it's internal wireless router and you should be good to go.

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 13:28:26 EDT

mariospants posted : Oh, it's a TP-Link 150150Mbps Wireless Lite N Access Point (model TL-WA701ND)... it's cheap but has done the trick in the past.

Thanks for any advice!

Re: [Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:30:07 EDT

cloud8521 posted : it should be. what kind of repeater you using?

[Internet] BELL Sagecom Fibe 25 modem... can it be Repeated?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:56:57 EDT

mariospants posted : So we "upgraded" from BELL 2-wire DSL service to the FIBE sagecom service... service is great as long as you're within 50 feet of the modem. It's definitely not reaching from our 3rd floor to the kitchen or outside garden, etc. Salesgirl at BELL erroneously told us it had a much more powerful wireless than the 2-wire (technically correct if you stuck with the factory settings of 4/10 on the 2-wire and the 100% on the sagecom...) but that's turned out to be a load of hooey.

Anyway, I have a wireless repeater, is there any recommended way to hook it up so that I can repeat the signal from the sagecom and boost its distance?

Thanks!