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FloridaBoy

join:2009-06-22
Bradenton, FL
reply to Telco

Re: Oh well

American consumers have the ballbat in hand to make corporations listen. Use your wallet. If they are greedy, then kick them in the nads for it while rewarding those companies that deserve it.

Controlling 70 percent of a 14 trillion dollar economy is a big enough club to get companies doing what you want without waiting for any laws or reforms.


Telco

join:2008-12-19

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100% agree. Now for the hard part, trying to educate the average American about this power.

This freedom to choose is also why the plutocrats and Koch types have a real disdain for government.



skeechan
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Oh no, they're plenty educated. Even us silly folks on the left coast, both Dummycrats and Republitards have figured out the current government overspending is unsustainable and fleecing business isn't the solution.


FloridaBoy

join:2009-06-22
Bradenton, FL
reply to Telco

I wish I had faith that would happen but I am not going to hold my breath.

There are a lot of smart guys with good info on this site but how many complain about data prices and other problems but still send in their checks every month to the same companies they complain about?

Of course, consumers also have a small part in this in their race for cheap too.


Telco

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reply to skeechan

California's problems have more to do with across the board under-taxation in various areas, the massive drain of illegal aliens and anchor babies, and the huge issue with crime. Now add in the tens of billions remitted abroad by these workers, that have no long-term vested interest in the place.

People in other states purchase billions of dollars of goods from CA and do not pay a dime in tax. Implement a federal GST and this problem is solved overnight, with the appropriate funds redistributed back to CA. It also close numerous black and grey market loopholes.



skeechan
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There is no under-taxation going on in California and giving more money to a government that is completely out of control and rampant with fraud, waste and corruptions is not the solution to any problem.

Government doesn't have a revenue problem. It has a beyond horrible spending problem. Government at all levels is a virus that must be contained for the host, as in the people, to prosper. Without containment we clearly see it grows like a tumor until it finally kills the host.

Liberal hypocrites should stop expecting everyone else to pay for their stuff and stop blaming everyone else for their problems and laziness. Maybe if they didn't waste 4 years in school getting a degree in Art History with a minor in Sanskit they would have a salable skill and wouldn't be blaming "The Man" for their situation.

Liberals can try raising my taxes but what will happen is I simply fire my employees and take my business and jobs to another state as so many other small businesses have. And you may say good but when the productive part of society is gone liberals will have no one one to pull the cart full of the unproductive citizens. Meanwhile they'll start with my taxes and finish with yours and when you start having to pay you will change your tune just like the liberals in San Jose did yesterday.



XANAVirus
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reply to FloridaBoy

Voting with your wallet?
That never works.

Corporations will have other people who do buy from them, and no doubt always will have SOMEONE willing to do so.

No matter how much you 'vote' with your wallet, do you expect it will really make a difference?

There's the people who pay and the people who won't pay, and there are no traces of individuality.

Saying that you or I should vote with our wallets only means that either we will find a competitor or will do without, will not mean that the corporations will listen - they have others, they don't NEED you or me.

Just as people aren't required to buy from a certain place, and as you say can vote with our wallets, corporations are only in it to make profits, it doesn't mean that it's your money or my money that will be their profit.


FloridaBoy

join:2009-06-22
Bradenton, FL

XANA, I agree with you to a certain extent. Individually, no they probablt would not know. However, if you get serious numbers doing it, then I would think they would pay attention.

If every Corporation is greedy and concerned about stock price, then any serious loss of revenue will impact them severely. Especially ones with a serious CAPEX budget.