 HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | reply to anilp
Re: How to install jack and pull cable from basement to L. room? said by anilp:...drilling into the floor from above so that the wire goes visibly into the floor would look unsightly... You're the only person who will notice it and after three days, you'll stop noticing it. |
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 SerbtasticYou Know How Many People I Have Buried?Premium
join:2002-02-24
Stoney Creek, ON | reply to anilp
When I retro-fitted my old place with Cat5 runs, I removed the baseboard (which was very nice 10" high old wood colonial), cut a hole in the drywall no higher than the baseboard and drilled a hole through the plate into the basement. I then ran the wire up through this hole to a jack that I put in at the correct height. I then put the baseboard back up and it hid the hole in the drywall so I didn't have to repair it. |
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | reply to nunya
said by nunya:I
Why not make life a lot easier on yourself and just get a baseboard jack?
(Hint, the jack covers the hole in the floor!)
I did buy this last night but one usually makes holes in walls and not in a floor unless it is hidden by a cabinet.
»www.homedepot.com/buy/electrical···201.html |
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you need the jacks that snap into the housing... |
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:8
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I've installed a few thousand baseboard jacks in my day, and have rarely had to do wall damage to do so. The "baseboard" jack attaches to the "baseboard", thus the name. Correspondingly, a "wall" jack is installed in a "wall".
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | reply to Serbtastic
said by Serbtastic:When I retro-fitted my old place with Cat5 runs, I removed the baseboard (which was very nice 10" high old wood colonial), cut a hole in the drywall no higher than the baseboard and drilled a hole through the plate into the basement. I then ran the wire up through this hole to a jack that I put in at the correct height. I then put the baseboard back up and it hid the hole in the drywall so I didn't have to repair it.
If I understand correctly, you drilled vertically into the horizontal floor - the 'plate' you are referring to - and this hole was in behind the drywall.
Also obviously, you did have to drill the horizontal hole in the face of the baseboard, right? |
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | reply to alkizmo
Thanks everyone for the replies, but I am trying to understand: from the basement, how do I drill upwards through the floor accurately so that I am behind the inner wall (drywall?) and also how to find and connect the two holes? (vertical hole behind drywall through floor and horizontal hole through wall). |
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SerbtasticYou Know How Many People I Have Buried?Premium
join:2002-02-24
Stoney Creek, ON | reply to anilp
said by anilp:If I understand correctly, you drilled vertically into the horizontal floor - the 'plate' you are referring to - and this hole was in behind the drywall.
Also obviously, you did have to drill the horizontal hole in the face of the baseboard, right?
Yes, after removing the baseboard section, and cutting a hole in the drywall (that was not as tall as the baseboard) I drilled down through the bottom plate (had to drill at an angle as the drill wouldn't fit perfectly horizontal as the hole wasn't that big). I then cut a hole for the box (retrofit plastic low voltage box) in the drywall directly over the drill hole that I cut in the drywall (about 14" off the ground in line with the electrical outlets along the wall). I fished the wire up from the basement and then fished it into the box. After replacing the baseboard, the hole cut behind it in the drywall was hidden and I didn't have to repair it. |
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 Nick_LPremium
join:2003-01-22
Pittsburgh, PA | reply to anilp
I understand that drilling your first hole in a new house can be scary, but man this has to be the most over-planned hole since the space station toilet was designed. 
Take one of your smallest drill bits and drill into the floor near the base of the wall, directly in front of the place you want to locate the jack. Take something narrow in diameter, like a piece of wire or an unbent paperclip, and put it into the hole, making sure to bend the end so it doesnt fall completely through the hole. Measure the distance from the hole to the wall (not the baseboard). Go downstairs and find the wire/paperclip/hole. Add and inch to an inch and a half and drill up (making sure to measure in the same direction)! If the Tiny hole is bothersome, you can fill it with wood putty, or most home improvement stores sell a sort of wax stick used to cover up scratches and blemishes in furniture.
As for connecting the hole to the future jack, the easiest way for a novice is to make one hole bigger. Either use a spade bit in the basement for the hole into the wall cavity, and then just fish around with something till you find your phone wire (which you will have shoved into the wall cavity through the hole you will make in the wall), or and easier way is to get a mud ring and use a single gang in wall jack (which basically is makeing a larger hole in the drywall and then filling it with a rectangle that you can screw a light switch sized flush jack onto). The mud ring is the more professional approach. |
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | 
from basement. 1.5 | 
disaster :( I feel sick! |
I went to a famous competitor to Home Depot and talked to Percy who said he was a carpenter for many years. He told me to add 2" to the distance measured upstairs from the jack to the wall, then 1.75" from the inside wall after peeling back the insulation. These two coordinates will give me my point. When drilling upwards, I would land in the stud cavity. He said drilling into the floor from above "is for amateurs".
I was even more conservative and made the distance 1.5".
After drilling, I find my hole about 3" in FRONT of the wall. (I don't even feel like measuring it). The floor is ruined. 
Now I have two holes. one in the wall, and another coming straight through the floor at least 3" away from desired location.
I wish I had gotten clear and accurate advice. |
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HallPremium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:2 | said by anilp:I wish I had gotten clear and accurate advice. I think you did... |
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 mattmagPremium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-04-09
NW Illinois
kudos:3 | reply to anilp
said by anilp:I wish I had gotten clear and accurate advice.
You did, and chose to ignore it. Disaster would not have resulted from the good advice you received here, especially from nunya  |
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | reply to Hall
said by Hall:said by anilp:I wish I had gotten clear and accurate advice. I think you did... you recommended I drill into the floor in front of the wall - I did not want that. I wanted the wire to go behind the wall. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | I thought I was pretty clear
said by robbin:Either drill a very small pilot hole first or preferably drill down.
The real problem seems to be the advise you received from somewhere else.
said by anilp:I went to a famous competitor to Home Depot and talked to Percy who said he was a carpenter for many years...He said drilling into the floor from above "is for amateurs". |
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said by anilp:I have to report that it was a disaster.
I went to a famous competitor to Home Depot and talked to Percy who said he was a carpenter for many years.
Now I have two holes. one in the wall, and another coming straight through the floor at least 3" away from desired location.
I wish I had gotten clear and accurate advice.
sheesshh....you believe those guys? advise given here was clear and simple...
and even so, Percy was a carpenter...he may not have understood completely your scenario much more seen it. |
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nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-23
O Fallon, MO
kudos:8 | reply to anilp
Since when are carpenters known for their wiring skills?
I'm wondering if this thread is even legit.
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anilp
join:2012-06-06
Palatine, IL | said by nunya:I'm wondering if this thread is even legit.
I dont understand |
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 John GaltForward, MarchPremium
join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
kudos:5 | reply to anilp
said by anilp:The floor is ruined. lol |
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 Jack_in_VAPremium
join:2007-11-26
Mathews, VA
kudos:1 | DSL Modem + Wireless Router = no drilling and no misplaced holes. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | Actually there are legitimate reasons to need a phone line to a computer. But that is a different discussion that the purpose of this thread which was about installing one. |
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