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Re: [Sci-Fi] Prometheus Imax 3D

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Agreed. I tend to think people over think a movie and don't appreciate what is going on the screen.

For example the biologist playing with the alien "snake". How many different movies/times have we seen that played out? But it usually gets the same response from the viewer "No you idiot, don't do that".
We know, they know that an experienced biologist wouldn't do what that guy did. But then again consider the late Steve Irwin. He seemed to enjoy playing with dangerous animals.


I don't care if there is no chance at FTL, work hole travel, time travel, or if the science they are talking about can't exist. All I can about is it entertaining and fun.

If I want a factual movie, then I'd watch something from National Geographic or the Discovery channel.
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Here is a satirical take on this film that someone wrote about Prometheus on another board. And I agree with him 100%!!

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD!!

Weyland Smithers wrote:

Prometheus is a hilarious comedy in the tradition of "Spaceballs" and "Men in Black" about a motley crew of forgetful, scaredy-cat scientists who go into space and try to find their alien creator. They find maps in caves that are their invitation, but this turns out to be a hilarious trick, like a mousetrap for retards.

The first scene is a giant, german-looking albino steroid guy who drinks some coffee out of an ashtray and gets sick and falls in the waterfall. Special effects reveal that he has little, tiny ladders in his blood called D&A. This guy looks like a member of the Blue Man Group, except White. There is a UFO flying overhead that is never seen or mentioned ever again in the movie. Just one of the many pranks that the writers and director have put in the movie to trick you with.

Next we meet these two very forgetful and silly scientists and they get to go into space on a beautiful ship. It is taken care of by a gay robot who does stuff like dye his hair and dress up like Robocop with a colander on his head to entertain himself. If C3PO had a human face, he would be this guy. All of the silly bungling scientists wake up from hyper-sleep in time to watch a hilarious hologram of a guy in an "old man" mask that looks like the Emperor from Return of the Jedi. I think he is wearing the old guy mask to get some laughs from the wacky scientists, but no one notices it. There is another funny guy with unconventional hair and tattoos who is really mean to everyone - that's so true! Guys that look like that are always dicks!

The spaceship starts to land on the planet, and as luck would have it, lands exactly near the alien castle on the very first try without even looking around too much - another hilarious example of serendipity! These guys are so lucky and fun to watch! The crazy scientists go into the alien castle and two of the guys get so scared that they decide to go back to the ship and get lost, even though they have flying superballs that make 3D maps of everything. Those two bungling doofuses! They are like "Dumb & Dumber" or "Abott & Costello". The rest of the gang finds more poisonous coffee and somehow the gay robot steals a whole pot of it without anyone noticing. He's such a Sneaky-Pete!

Everyone has to go back to the ship at the last minute because the Captian pranks them and waits until a violent storm is nearby before telling them about it! Haha! This guy is great! The two bungling idiot scientists get stuck in the castle and decide to goof-off all night. They try to pet a space cobra that lives in the poisonous coffee, but it kills them, which I think is what ALL cobras wish to do, space or no. Meanwhile, back on the ship, the gay robot does a HILARIOUS prank on the whiny scientist who wears a hipster scarf. He puts a little poisonous coffee in this jerk's drink and gives him pink eye and diarrhea (probably). Haha! That's like a whoopee cushion x100! Luckily the scientist has enough health left to hump his forgetful girlfriend one last time before he is all the way super-sick from the bad coffee. As one last prank to his fellow scientists, he suits up and goes back to the castle with them, even though he secretly knows he is very, very sick. Haha. What an inconvenience to the rest of the group - the ulimate prank!

The mean lady burns him later. The forgetful scientist gets pregnant with a white octopus and has to take it out using Michael Jackson's special oxygen bed. Now here is where the movie gets really hialrious, because she TOTALLY forgets that the alien squid is in there and just leaves to go do some errands! HAHAHA! It turns out that the funny guy in the old man mask is really hiding on the ship and he does some funny slapstick "old man walking" with a cane! I love it!

Everyone goes back to the alien castle for yet a THIRD time, this time to prank the space jockey who lives there. This guy is trying to take a nap, but they keep buggin him! Man, I hate that too! Anyway, they wake him up and start yelling at him, but he is SUPER cranky and kills everybody really fast, exactly the way I would have done it. The funny guy in the old man mask gets a GIANT bump on his head, just like on Bugs Bunny when someone gets an anvil dropped on them! Just another hilarious example of the comedy stylings of Ridley Scott. Luckily, without too much trouble the forgetful scientist sneaks away and easily convinces the funny captain to crash his ship into the space jockey's ship so he can't prank everyone on earth with the old "poison coffee routine." The mean lady gets crushed because the alien ship starts to roll like a big wagon wheel and she runs DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ITS PATH for big laughs from the audience. Classic slapstick.

Now here is where the set-up with the very, very forgetful scientist girl really pays off with BIG LAUGHS. She goes back to Michael Jackson's bed area and it turns out that the alien squid that she forget to throw in the garbage is now HUGE! This part reminded me of the hilarious movie "Men in Black" where Will Smith gets alien tentacles wrapped around him and screams in a high-pitched voice! Classic Sci-Fi comedy moments all around! Anyway, the forgetful scientist tricks the cranky nap-albino to go near the giant squid, and guess what? It gets him good so she can get away once again with plenty of luck on her side. Amazing!

The movie ends when the forgetful scientist makes friends with the gay robot head that killed her boyfriend and wanted to do the same to her, but hey - let bygones be bygones. Forgive and forget. They sail off together in another ship to go have more zany, whacky space-comedy adventures together! Hooray!

Oh, but wait! At the very, very, very end, an alien hatches out of the cranky nap-guy's belly and spits out its dentures! I wish the funny guy in the old man mask had done that too! I can't wait to see this one again this weekend. I think there are many, many, many other jokes and riddles that were never explained or that I missed while I was laughing at the other stuff. Intentional plot holes are the ultimate prank on the audience. It's like the whole movie just gave you two middle fingers with simultaneous fart noises.

Ten out of ten stars! See this one with your little kids!

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OHHH Lets travel trillions of miles to an alien planet and the first thing we do when we get there is take off our helmets!!!! OHH LOOK!! Black goo!!! Lets touch it!!

Next, lets carry a preserved head back to the ship and do what!!! TURN IT ON??!!! Injecting electricity into its head to do what exactly? Then it explodes?? huh...??

Oh an wow, thats one hell of an abortion!! My props to that bitch! I bet she can suck a mean dick...

Ok moving on... Back to the ship, lets play with the space snake and get killed... Idiots. IDK wtf was that punk rockers problem screaming at everyone and acting like a total douchebag... Travel trillions of miles, then as soon as you get to your destination, you turn around and run away? Screaming at everyone in the process???.... Who recruited this guy? and what drugs were they on??

Lets not forget the the 10 or so plotholes... I have more questions now then when I came in.. Now we know where the ship came from in the original "Alien", but now... hum... Why create life on planets then come back later and destroy them?

The robot infecting the crew member to what extent exactly?
Why did the Engineer just start killing everyone?
Why did that dumb bitch run in the path of the falling ship?
Why did the dumb infected crew member that saw worms in his eye not say anything???
Why did the robot not help the women?
Ect...

I still loved the movie, anything sci-fi is great in my book, but please stop making DUMB shit. Have some common sense when making a movie and write a script around that, DO NOT write a script where stupid guy does stupid shit then finish the movie on that note... Its like they started writing the script one night at a bar and were drinking the entire time, so by the end of the movie they were all drunk and just writing stupid bullshit...

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I understand exactly. I really love sci-fy, but this movie was nothing but eye candy... Its like they recruited retards from the side of the road to conduct this mission...
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reply to r81984
Let me address some of your criticism. Some is founded, but you're reaching on some of them.


1. It had characters that added 0 to the movie - the pilot, old weyland, vickers. It had non connecting story lines, no flow, no cohesion of the story. It was written and directed poorly with a plot that should have been scifi gold.
The pilot was the moral compass of the entire team. Old Weyland was the representation of greed and the everlasting pursuit of immortality. Vickers was indeed useless, except perhaps she was the only really sane person of the entire expedition: she wanted to leave the second they set foot on the planet.

2. The ship and structure was not practical. They just made it into a visual scary cave. Remember these engineers are humanoid creators that you saw with the flute, the cuneiform language, have similar thought processes to us.
Compared to what? The Enterprise? The Super Deathstar? Function is served by whatever they need. I did not find the engineer ship to be overly superfluous.

4. The engineer space suits were just made to look scary, it was a pathetic attempt at trying to make it a scary movie.
I think it fitted their overall look well. Would you have rather they look like the ridiculous aliens in Battleship? I thought the suits were fine

3. It was a joke they randomly found the installation on the moon with no scans to tell them to go to that one small strip of land.
They clearly state there are many such installations across the whole planet, as each is a docking station for a ship and David explicitly mentions there is a whole network of ships

4. the magical cave hologram was done poorly. Why a hologram down a random tunnel/hallway?
Magical? You clearly see the geologist popping those scanning orbs out of his bags and launching them. I thought they were cool.

5. the penis snake was stupid. Couldn't they have done better than a penis???
Only thing stupid about the penis snake was the stupid biologist playing with it. You clearly see the small worms swimming in the black stuff early on, it's only natural that small works become bigger worms.

6. It made no sense that the engineers would leave a map to the distant moon where they are storing basically 'a weapon' to restart all life on earth. Why would you tell people on earth where to find your weapon installation????
The Engineer's rationale for wanting to destroy us is never explained. The map they find at the beginning in Scotland is 35,000 years old, but we know that the Engineers created the Aliens to destroy us 2,000 years ago. So it stands to reason they did not always want to destroy us, they might really have invited us to visit them at one point. What changed their mind remains a mystery. It'll probably be answered in the next movie.

7. Obviously these people created life on earth millions of years ago and for some reason 2000 years ago they, or maybe a rival group put that installation on that moon preparing to reset/modify all life on earth, but only after telling the humans on earth the location of their installation.
See previous point. We don't know yet why they changed their minds.
It's either a plot hole or a loose end left open for the next movie which is likely to happen considering how the movie ended.

8. Shaw magically runs around with a fresh slice in her abdomen and staples. She would be bleeding everwhere like crazy. All they had to do was have the machine do some step like a spray or laser, but no they went with magic blood. That was a joke.
I had trouble with that one too. Considering they have the technology to put people in cryosleep, it's entirely possible whatever anesthetics she injects herself with has regenerative properties as well. It does require a shitload of suspension of disbelief to follow through on that one.

9.The black goo was a little strange. It turned seamen into a squid monster in a female that was not fertile. It turned magots into a penis snake. It turned one guy into a human hating monster zombie.
The squid monster grew with no food or water and became an alien queen.
The black goo modifies the host to accommodate whatever lifeforms will lead to the creation of an alien as quickly as possible. The squid in Shaw was obviously mean to suck her face in as soon as it was born (which leads to we know what). The penis snake serves a similar function I think, since it behaved similarly to how the giant squid at the end did. I suppose in absence of a squid or a penis snake to modify your DNA and use equal matter conversion to harvest an alien inside you, the black goo turns you into a mad zombie?

10. They had all that mapping technology and two scientists magically get lost?? WTF. Later they were shown verbally stating their coordinates so they knew where they were.
That was fucking dumb, yeah.

11. Why did the engineer go to find Shaw instead of going to another ship to complete his mission??? That made no sense.
He was probably pissed off that the bitch crashed his ship and almost killed him, so he thought he rip her head out for fun THEN proceed to the next ship. There was probably no rush for him.

12. They really tried hard with that religion connection. Have they learned nothing from Matrix and Lost???
Damon Lindelhof is a moron. See my first post in this thread.

13. The trailer deceived us into thinking the movie was good.
That's what trailers are meant to do.

14. Ridley Scott failed to bring everything together to make a good movie. His job should have been easy and he screwed it up.
Well he didn't make the best movie possible but it wasn't a total flop.


This is sci-fi, the genre that along with fantasy requires quite a bit of suspension of disbelief. You sound like an angry fan that went in with epically high expectations and came out insulted your every dreams were not realized.

Look, the movie is not perfect and there are plenty of dumb mistakes the characters make that are so totally unforgivable. But you can't deny the visuals are stunning and some of the moments were really WTF-inducing. When the engineer is fighting off the giant squid and you see the huge thing finally suck him in, I grossed me out completely .

Prometheus isn't perfect but saying it's the first movie that made you want your money back is kind of delusional.

What sci-fi movies do you hold so dear they are perfection to your eyes?

I love suspending reality to see a movie like this... What bothers me is the total LACK of common sense they wrote into the characters...

"Your personally selected for a trillion dollar mission to discover an alien civilation half way across the galaxy, and the first thing you do when you get there is take off your helmet!!!!! Touch the black goo!!! Act like a total douchbag and run away, then get lost!!!"

I was watching the movie tonight just in AWE at the stupidity of the writing!

YES I LOVE sci-fy! And you have to suspend reality to enjoy it! But I cant understand suspending common sense as-well.. If this is the kind of crap they are going to put out... I will refuse to pay anything for any type of content!

I already download everything I watch on tv for free, But I will go and spend money on the types of movies I like to watch! Just to support it! But common. Dont take me for a fool. Write something that make sense and actually spend more than a few nights doing it.
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Maybe we were just spoiled by Star Trek... They had common sense and did things the right way.. Mostly. Plenty of backups and precautions.. This move is an example of doing everything the wrong way and having to deal with the consequences... To me, thats no movie.. Thats just being lazy and hoping to make a quick buck.
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Prometheus had a lot of nice subtlety that clearly went over a lot of viewer's heads. Because of that, the movie was brought up a notch for me. However, that didn't save it. Outside of David and Shaw, the movie really took a hit with the bad characters and their decisions...some genuinely stupid shit in there.
Charlize Theron is hot though.
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I think some people here are overlooking something very important.

A movie is an amalgamation of writing and acting (and more). Therefore, movies are in itself an art form and art is highly subjective. Regardless of whether the movie is scifi or not its still a collection of artists rendering the experience.

Its not really an issue of good or bad, its an issue of like or dislike.

As an example, I personally cannot watch any movie that involves any form of child abuse. So I couldn’t really watch a movie like “An American Crime “ but that has nothing to do with the quality of the movie itself. So lets say you have a low tolerance for stupid people and you see people make stupid decisions in a movie,….

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I just got back from seeing Prometheus and I thought it was pretty good. On a scale from 1 to 10, I'd give it about a 6 or 7.

It reminded me a bit of the movie Sunshine, where the first two thirds are filled with back-story, character set-up, and great visuals, and the last third is an alien/monster action flick. I would have preferred it if they went for less action and more story telling.

I think they could have done more to explain the reasons behind the actions of the "engineers" but that didn't detract from the movie too much for me.

I didn't have a problem with Holloway taking off his helmet at all. All the gadgets they had told them that the air was breathable, and cleaner than the air on Earth. Plus, he was convinced that the "engineers" invited them there, so he probably assumed they also made the air safe to breathe.

Even otherwise smart scientists can let their curiosity get the best of them, so I wasn't surprised that the lost scientist got really close to the alien snake swimming in the black goo. How him and his buddy got lost in the first place (with all of the maps and tech they had) is a bigger mystery to me.

This was nothing like the original Alien movie though. That was a sci-fi horror movie, this one was more of a sci-fi action flick.

Theron and Rapace were pretty hot. The acting was good. The visuals were outstanding. The script could have used a bit of work.
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I was surprised by Rapace too.

Prometheus was about 1.7 million times better than Avatar though.
The only reason to see Avatar was the special effects. Everyone had seen that story somewhere else before it came out.
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Indeed,…we will have to disagree on that point,…

There were something like ~12+ characters in Prometheus. A cast that large is almost certain to lack character development to some extent.

Also, as mentioned before, its not uncommon to have the viewer disagree with the actions of characters especially in movies that have elements of horror movies. Don’t open that door, don’t let that person in the house, don’t go up stairs there is nowhere to run upstairs, “run b!tc#, run” and so on and so forth.

Anyway, I enjoyed the movie despite its flaws and as far as I am concerned all movies are flawed because people are incapable of perfection (being flawed ourselves).

I’ll put it another way. One person has a fish dinner and successfully negotiates the delicate bones finishing satisfied. Another person chokes on the bones or has difficulty dealing with it and goes unsatisfied. A lot of this has to do with state of mind and a certain level of skill.

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Sunshine was actually a good movie.
Prometheus was nothing like Sunshine.
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