Topic 'changing my ip' in forum 'Shaw' - dslreports.com

Re: changing my ip

Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:54:24 EDT

unhinged posted : well the admins arent going to give out my ip

Re: changing my ip

Sat, 07 Jul 2012 01:47:48 EDT

tlhIngan posted :

the only way i can see them getting my ip is through skype and i can stop using that account. the only problem is shaw will not(cant they said) change my ip.

They can also get your IP when you playing online, not just skype. Heck, I'm sure the admins of this forum know the IP you posted from as well.

Changing IP is useless because they'll just find out your new IP the next time you play against them online and stuff.

Re: changing my ip

Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:13:06 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by unhinged:

the only way i can see them getting my ip is through skype and i can stop using that account. the only problem is shaw will not(cant they said) change my ip.

that's true, IPs are dynamic via DHCP. Until that IP is taken by somebody else your computer will keep requesting it and receiving it. So spend some days offline, or change your MAC address and have FREE IP enabled on your account.

Re: changing my ip

Fri, 06 Jul 2012 05:01:45 EDT

unhinged posted : the only way i can see them getting my ip is through skype and i can stop using that account. the only problem is shaw will not(cant they said) change my ip.

Re: changing my ip

Fri, 06 Jul 2012 05:00:08 EDT

unhinged posted : i dont stream... they watch someone that streams that i play against

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:57:44 EDT

kevinds posted : Good router,

With port forward based on source-address - works great for server based games, not so well in p2p games however.

The router will take the 'abuse' passing along the traffic ment for the game (or application) on your computer or console.
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Re: changing my ip

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:24:07 EDT

ilianame posted : Also, you should probably report them to the cyberpolice,
and once you backtrace them, the consequences will never be the same.

(For those who have no idea what this post mean, and what it portrays to: »knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/je···laughter)

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:30:16 EDT

ilianame posted :

said by ravenchilde:

said by unhinged:

i dont use a router :( and the people ddosing me did it because i killed someone they watch stream in a game a few times

Problem solved. Don't do that ^.

Aside from not having a router...

"they watch stream"

- Don't do this either.
- You're not somekind of Pirillo (If you were you'd know better)

Record your gaming, put it on YouTube, no one watches Vidiya anyhows.

There should be an Internet licensing course in mid-school,
where they would teach you about the responsibility you have towards your fellow Internet users. Can you in all honesty estimate how many spam e-mails your computer(s) have sent in your lifetime on the Internet?
Pardon the hostility, it's not your fault exactly, it's the way computers got pushed on the regular folks who equate them to microwave ovens.

Get a router IMMEDIATELY, spend at least $60 ( AT LEAST!!!)

Tell your mother that the CISC, RCMP and Interpol will be after her if she doesn't do so immediately, it's the LAW!

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 13:35:49 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by unhinged:

i dont use a router :( and the people ddosing me did it because i killed someone they watch stream in a game a few times

Problem solved. Don't do that ^.

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 02:37:41 EDT

tlhIngan posted : So now you have two applications you use where changing your IP is useless because the moment you do it again, you'll just be attacked again at your NEW IP.

Changing your IP is only good for the first second, that's it. Once they identify you, you're going to be attacked again.

Alas, unless you can play against a less juvenile group, you're pretty much screwed. If you play professionally, you're really screwed - once money gets involved, it's open season for dirty tricks.

Re: changing my ip

Mon, 02 Jul 2012 13:57:32 EDT

unhinged posted : i dont use a router :( and the people ddosing me did it because i killed someone they watch stream in a game a few times

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:51:52 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by ilianame:

Yup, it would definitely make my Minecraft server (network resource) unavailable to intended users.

On the off topic, I'd like to buy you a beer!

Please do! I'm a huge fan of beer. Except for scotch ales, and sweet strong ales.

IPA please!

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:45:52 EDT

ilianame posted : Yup, it would definitely make my Minecraft server (network resource) unavailable to intended users.

On the off topic, I'd like to buy you a beer!

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:03:44 EDT

ravenchilde posted : Smashing your router with a hammer would be an effective DoS attack.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 17:11:30 EDT

ilianame posted : lololol

I c ur reasoning.
It's almost as if I were to smash my router with the hammer and claim that I hacked Google - because I can't access it.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:33:09 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by ilianame:

You guys are both wrong. Denial of Service means denying the service to the legitimate respondents. OP is not running any services. He may be getting flooded, but his router should pretty much ignore all requests to closed ports.

It would take a few dozen computers with very gracious upload channel to shut OP's router from the Internet.

I'm still leaning towards a vulnerability on the router or through an open port.

I'm not wrong. "In computing, a denial-of-service attack (DoS attack) or distributed denial-of-service attack (DDoS attack) is an attempt to make a machine or network resource unavailable to its intended users"

The network resource called "the internets (subtitle: a series of tubes)" is unavailable to the intended user 'unhinged'. Therefore I am right. My rightness is known! Legendary!

Trollololololol. :)

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:35:46 EDT

ilianame posted : You guys are both wrong. Denial of Service means denying the service to the legitimate respondents. OP is not running any services. He may be getting flooded, but his router should pretty much ignore all requests to closed ports.

It would take a few dozen computers with very gracious upload channel to shut OP's router from the Internet.

I'm still leaning towards a vulnerability on the router or through an open port.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:34:02 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by stolen:

Actually, most DDoS's to residences are packets/sec or traffic DoS's. They aren't even targeting your applications...

DDoS is such an abused term in that way that you'll notice I only ever said DoS. A DDoS usually requires a cloud of zombie bots at the attacker's command, and most munchkins on the internet don't have that. Sure, some do, but most nuisances are just kids with scripts. If one isn't sure that the attack is in fact ditributed, DoS is the umbrella.

rDDoS syn-ack attacks are an exception.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 10:21:26 EDT

stolen posted :

said by ilianame:

P.S. If you are not running any out looking services responding to incoming requests, you can't get "DDoSed". If you think the attacker is managing to disconnect you from the Internet, look for vulnerabilities.

Actually, most DDoS's to residences are packets/sec or traffic DoS's. They aren't even targeting your applications, just sending you so many packets/so much traffic that you're dead in the water.
There are plenty of DoS attacks that do target specific applications, but those are more often not distributed, since they attack specific vulns and don't require a large number of hosts hammering the port. </semanticsLawyer>

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:33:47 EDT

ilianame posted : Basically what Raven's saying over here is if you are planning to troll, do so at your own risk. If you are not sufficiently prepared to wage cyberwar, don't do it :P

P.S. If you are not running any out looking services responding to incoming requests, you can't get "DDoSed". If you think the attacker is managing to disconnect you from the Internet, look for vulnerabilities.

P.P.S. »astalavista.box.sk/

P.P.P.S ^^^ Yes this site will give you viruses

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:13:46 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by unhinged:

i didnt change my skype when i connected my router i just didnt log on it so i guess the router didnt really change much... i cant get shaw to change my ip so theres not much i can do at this point

this is the OP btw

I'm not attacking you, I want to say that first. I'm sure you are a great and wonderful person who is being maligned. But there is some causality to be considered here.

Clearly some interaction is causing some juvenile (person) to want to attack you. I recommend you treat the cause instead of the symptom. Stop participating in whatever activity leads to the DoS. The attacker will grow bored (as juvenile's do) and move on to greener pastures. You may then resume enjoying the internet. That is a holistic approach to solving your problem.

My two cents. Your mileage may vary on this approach. You might even not care for it at all.

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:56:31 EDT

unhinged posted : i didnt change my skype when i connected my router i just didnt log on it so i guess the router didnt really change much... i cant get shaw to change my ip so theres not much i can do at this point

this is the OP btw

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 01:30:26 EDT

tlhIngan posted :

said by nowwhat :

its no one on my skype friends list that is doing it.. you dont need to be on someones contact list to get their ip through skype unfortunately and i would get a new skype account once my ip was to change obviously.

@shawsean will do! thank you :)

Yeah, but all you need is someone to give your new ID to them and you'll be DDoS'd. Or maybe they'll find you again. After all, you changed your skype ID once already to no effect (they won't keep DDoSing you off skype once you log off because it's pointless

And it could very well be someone on your contact list is passing your ID onto whomever's doing it. Since there doesn't seem to be widespread reports of this, changing your ID may only delay matters until you add back your mole.

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:51:52 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by nowwhat :

well someone sent me a screenshot just now of someone saying that they knew my ip and they linked it in chat and they said they were going to ddos me.. i know who this person is and im just wondering if theres anything i can do with this information? he lives in the united states though

If you can find out the IP of the person threatening you, you can look their IP up at ARIN, that IP will have an abuse email/phone # which you can phone and report the action.

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 26 Jun 2012 07:17:58 EDT

anon posted : its no one on my skype friends list that is doing it.. you dont need to be on someones contact list to get their ip through skype unfortunately and i would get a new skype account once my ip was to change obviously.

@shawsean will do! thank you :)

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:12:09 EDT

tlhIngan posted :

said by nowwhat :

Well, changing your IP won't help because the instant you sign on skype again, they'll have your NEW IP and DDoS you. Your options are to either not use skype, or to just put up with it when it happens and hope they get bored. Or reconsider your choice in friends.

Re: changing my ip

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:26:17 EDT

ShawSean posted :

said by nowwhat :

If you register on the boards pm me and I'll be in touch.

Cheers.
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Sean
Shaw Community Manager

Re: changing my ip

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:52:35 EDT

anon posted : well someone sent me a screenshot just now of someone saying that they knew my ip and they linked it in chat and they said they were going to ddos me.. i know who this person is and im just wondering if theres anything i can do with this information? he lives in the united states though

Re: changing my ip

Sun, 24 Jun 2012 16:03:28 EDT

kevinds posted : I've done that before,

Some ISPs are very helpful with it.

Fastest one, ISP called me 30 minutes later and asked if it had stopped yet, it hadn't, then they said, "What about now, we just null-routed their subnet".

Distrubuted Denial of Service won't work like that because being distrubuted, will be coming from multiple IPs, sometimes 10's of thousands - so far, I haven't had any that bad.
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Re: changing my ip

Sun, 24 Jun 2012 15:46:52 EDT

Baud1200 posted : He needs to set up a old machine as IDS with logging and pcap enabled to see exactly where its coming from and to log those packets. Contact the ISP of the offender supply them with a copy of those logs and packet caps, also CCing the email to the RCMP cyber crimes division to let the ISP know you are serious.

Won't be as funny for the no lifer doing it when they lose their (parents) internet connection and are faced with possible legal charges.

Re: changing my ip

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 01:37:12 EDT

tlhIngan posted :

said by nowwhat :

@ ilianame im pretty sure i know im getting ddosed since hte person who did it said hes about to ddos me then i couldnt use the internet for about 2 minutes... they got my ip through skype since someone showed it on stream and i got a new skype now

And that's your problem. Even if you get a new skype ID, if you call into someone who gave your ID to someone else, well, that just gives you a slight delay between when you can use it and getting DDoS'd again.

And since you probably WANT to use skype, a new IP doesn't really help because unless you find out who you call gave away your ID, you're just gonna get hosed. Repeatedly. (Skype needs your IP and whoever contacts you also needs your IP).

Either your router rebooted, which you should get a more powerful one (you didn't say what Shaw plan you're on), or you really have been flooded off. Nothing we can do about the latter unless you quit pissing off whomever's doing it or you just grin and bear it and hope they get bored and move onto something else.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:41:18 EDT

kevinds posted : I have had that issue in the past,

I handled it by getting a more powerful router and added many more IPTables rules.

-Posted from my phone.

Re: changing my ip

Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:08:53 EDT

anon posted : @ ilianame im pretty sure i know im getting ddosed since hte person who did it said hes about to ddos me then i couldnt use the internet for about 2 minutes... they got my ip through skype since someone showed it on stream and i got a new skype now

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:43:44 EDT

ilianame posted :

said by ravenchilde:

Wow. Blunt bro. :-D

Well, one's got to wonder. I saw this post yesterday and waited for OP to come back with some diagnostics...
like perhaps his pfSense logs, or maybe he used Fiddler to snoop on his packets...

You never know.

TBH I was going to reply that I've been "DDOSed" from some forums in the distant past as well, but then I thought I troll this forum too much.

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:46:42 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by ilianame:

If you don't know how to change an IP (via MAC) how do you know you are getting DDOSed? Is the Antivirus 2013 telling you that?

Wow. Blunt bro. :-D

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 13:26:01 EDT

ilianame posted :

said by tlhIngan:

Also, what is your DDoS?

This.

If you don't know how to change an IP (via MAC) how do you know you are getting DDOSed? Is the Antivirus 2013 telling you that?

Re: changing my ip

Wed, 13 Jun 2012 01:26:12 EDT

tlhIngan posted :

said by ravenchilde:

said by nowwhat :

well shaw enabled my second ip they said but it still wasnt changing.. so last night i started getting ddosed again and i connected my router and it changed my ip.. so i get back on and i instantly started getting ddosed again

I'm not a big fan of treating symptoms (getting DDoSed). Let's try and find the cancer: What are you doing to provoke attacks?

That's a good point - changing your IP is useless if you're gonna do whatever is causing you to be DDoS'd to begin with. After all, if it's IRC, everyone will just see your new IP and DDoS that. If it's a website, ditto. Changing your IP is useless unless people just randomly picked your IP.

Also, what is your DDoS? Is it just a bunch of rejected connections from your router? If it's that, there's nothing you can do - it's perfectly normal crap that goes on every day. Just botnets looking for more PCs to recruit and stuff like that. Can't avoid them, and part of the reason the activity light blinks constantly.

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:42:04 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by nowwhat :

I'm not a big fan of treating symptoms (getting DDoSed). Let's try and find the cancer: What are you doing to provoke attacks?

Re: changing my ip

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:45:47 EDT

kevinds posted : does connecting my router to change my ip not change the ip they are ddosing me through or something?

Did it change your external (Shaw IP) or just the one showing on your computer? Use ipchicken.com or whatismyip.com Personally, I prefer ipchicken.com

I don't know any of the services you have on your network, but one of them might be updating 'them' what your new IP is. Example, connecting to a game server, will show your "game-name" and IP. Or any other service that you may not have authorized running on your computer.

It isn't likely, but it is possible, that someone is deliberately attacking you for some reason, and have also put the resourses behind tracking your IP changes.
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Re: changing my ip

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:17:02 EDT

anon posted : well shaw enabled my second ip they said but it still wasnt changing.. so last night i started getting ddosed again and i connected my router and it changed my ip.. so i get back on and i instantly started getting ddosed again and i have no idea how they got my new ip (the way they got it the first time was through skype but i had it off when i connected my router)

does connecting my router to change my ip not change the ip they are ddosing me through or something?

Re: changing my ip

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:59:12 EDT

kevinds posted : If the 2nd IP is enabled, then you can skip powering off the modem.

If your modem is set for 1 IP, the modem power cycle is needed.

-Posted from my phone.

Re: changing my ip

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 22:59:55 EDT

ravenchilde posted :

said by nowwhat :

Recently i have been getting ddosed so today i called shaw to see if i could get my ip changed and they are saying they cant change it.. now what do i do?

Do a live chat with Shaw to make sure that your free second IP is enable on your account.

Then follow Kevinds' instructions above.

Re: changing my ip

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 17:12:47 EDT

kevinds posted : Change your MAC address on whatever is connected to the modem,

Router - Look for MAC Clone
Direct to computer, look for something with Physical Address in the advanced properities,

Apply,

Shutdown computer/unplug power from router

Unplug modem, power modem back up, wait for lights to become solid,

Plug power to router back in, or turn back on computer, should have a different IP.
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changing my ip

Sat, 09 Jun 2012 16:23:31 EDT

anon posted : Recently i have been getting ddosed so today i called shaw to see if i could get my ip changed and they are saying they cant change it.. now what do i do?