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Oleg
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Birmingham, AL
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Are you using security protection

How many of you here do not use any protection at all?

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.


Name Game
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Re: Do you use security protection

Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using
Thanks.


Oleg
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said by Name Game:

Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using
Thanks.

Well i am an IT. I have Windows 7, and running Firefox. I am using my PC for downloading Warez, watching HD videos, and doing some media format conversions, doc conversions etc...


Name Game
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Re: Are you using security protection

Saw that... did you every get that big pdf into word..did one myself for my dad the other day..asked those question since then will be easier for other members to compare and respond.. I was also wondering if your Bell fastaccess affords you any protection when using it..or are you just signed up for the regular stuff. Did you just start using Win7 recently or have you been using it those 4 years ?

I can tell you I don't use any protection as such either..and have never been whacked with stuff even on the fly..
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StuartMW
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reply to Oleg
said by Oleg:

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

How do you know? PC's don't get rashes or develop an itch
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Oleg
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Birmingham, AL
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reply to Name Game
No. All of the tools i have tried have fail. AT&T offers a free Internet Security Suite powered by McAfee »www.att.net/s/s.dll?ep=16323&ch=at/tb/sec but i have never used it.


heelyeah
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Raleigh, NC
reply to Oleg
Wow, you're awesome.


Haley J

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reply to Oleg
Run hitman pro, you aren't clean. I can see this for a non windows OS but windows itself is like a giant trojan magnet. A lot of warez, cracks and keygens are full of trojans and since you don't have any protection you'd never know. Trojan_Gen32 you know?

Floriana

join:2012-05-23
reply to Oleg
WOW, excellent.
How do you manage to do that?
Just because your are IT guy?
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scross

join:2002-09-13
Cordova, TN

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reply to Oleg
I'm an IT pro, also. I run multiple layers of protection on each of my Windows boxes. They almost always scan clean, too, except for the occasional false positive - and sometimes when one anti-malware tool calls out another anti-malware tool as a potential problem, which is fun. (Usually these folks respect each other and play well together, but not always.)

But ...

This is Windows, after all, meaning that the entire ecosystem is shot full of potential security holes, down at the most basic and fundamental level. I try to keep everything patched within 24-48 hours of patch availability, and I keep all of my anti-malware up to date within reasonable limits (almost all of it auto-updates, anyway). But I have absolutely no confidence that I won't get burned again someday, as I have been in the past - although it has been a while now.

Sad to say, but Windows itself and the software that runs on top of it sometimes runs so poorly and is so unstable that it doesn't really matter much whether you are infected or not. The end result is the same - a flaky, unstable box.


Name Game
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That is the best analysis I have heard in a long time..great post !
BTW..Thanks for the tip on Merit.


vaxvms
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reply to Oleg
said by Oleg:

How many of you here do not use any protection at all?

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

You can say the same things about having sex.
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Name Game
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said by vaxvms:

said by Oleg:

How many of you here do not use any protection at all?

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

You can say the same things about having sex.

Yep..sometimes they never even know what hit them SYS$SYSTEM: SYSUAF.DAT

Think my first hack was 30311142.59 [Enter] 99 [Enter] 9 [Enter] and that was before they had real puters.
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EUS
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reply to Oleg
said by Oleg:

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

How can you ascertain that?
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Name Game
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reply to StuartMW
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said by StuartMW:

said by Oleg:

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

How do you know? PC's don't get rashes or develop an itch

And sharing your nuts does have consequences..Speedy Warez does not need any stinkin badges


StuartMW
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Well even a blind squirrel finds a nut doesn't get infected every now and then
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Name Game
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Grand Rapids, MI
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Then again..if you want to keep the score low..always a good idea to protect the backdoor.


workablob

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reply to Oleg
said by Oleg:

How many of you here do not use any protection at all?

I have not used any protection for the passed 4 years, and my PC %100 free of any infections.

I use a layered approach.

Ghost image
Deep Freeze
MSSE
NoScript
Beef Taco
Palemoon
UAC on FULL
Run as a limited user
Elevate when needed

Plus, I put a tarp over the PC at night

1.5GB RAM Windows 7 32Bit on an old Dell from 2006.

Dave


StuartMW
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said by workablob:

Plus, I put a tarp over the PC at night

How about protection for your RJ-45



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workablob

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said by StuartMW:

said by workablob:

Plus, I put a tarp over the PC at night

How about protection for your RJ-45

[att=1]

Excellent point. Don't want the old Token shooting all over the place.

Sorry for the dated Token Ring reference.

It's where it all started for me.

Dave


Name Game
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reply to StuartMW
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Did not really work in the end..those little tadpoles still got through and left the user strangely affected until they did a reformat/reinstall and overwrite the boot sector with a lot of polish.


Oleg
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reply to Haley J
Before running any Keygen or Crack i always do an online Anti-Virus scan like VirusTotal.


Name Game
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reply to Oleg
I did use Panda long ago..even convinced some of the old timers that Panda's DOS based cleaning tools worked wonders cleaning off completely many of the well know badboys at the time. We still have a link to them at the top of this Security Forum.

»www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/···lities/?

But then all of the sudden one day in the dairy isle.....
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antdude
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reply to Name Game

Re: Do you use security protection

said by Name Game:

Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using
Thanks.

Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those!


Name Game
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said by antdude:

said by Name Game:

Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using
Thanks.

Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those!

Sometimes my spellchecker does that to me just to p*ss me off.
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antdude
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said by Name Game:

said by antdude:

said by Name Game:

Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using
Thanks.

Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those!

Sometimes my spellchecker does that to me just to p*ss me off.

So yell and smack (with your paws) at it then! :P
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Name Game
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I tried that..but the Checker used to be the front man for the Panda.
So it all goes back to trip to the www.freeAV stuff.com...The Panda just stood there waiting for my next move...

Oh.... he mumbled something about I had "too many free things in my shopping cart".."and didn't I know that the price of of bamboo stalk" had gone up. I told him it was hard enough finding a good ride on the Net these dAYS and I was so dizzy trying to keep up with the big boys..I plum forgot.

In the end we parted company as friends...Panda would spam me with email every other day about what's happening in his neck of the woods...I would run hijackthis once in a while to make sure he was not messing around with my hydraulic lowrider.
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Diazruanova
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Mexico
reply to Oleg

Well i am an IT. I have Windows 7, and running Firefox...

Not even No-Script?
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Oleg
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said by Diazruanova:

Well i am an IT. I have Windows 7, and running Firefox...

Not even No-Script?

Hope. Adblock Plus is the only thing i need to block those nasty script ad servers like OpenX ad servers.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to scross

Re: Are you using security protection

said by scross:

This is Windows, after all, meaning that the entire ecosystem is shot full of potential security holes, down the most basic and fundamental level. I try to keep everything patched within 24-48 hours of patch availability, and I keep all of my anti-malware up to date within reasonable limits (almost all of it auto-updates, anyway). But I have absolutely no confidence that I won't get burned again someday, as I have been in the past - although it has been a while now.

Sad to say, but Windows itself and the software that runs on top of it sometimes runs so poorly and is so unstable that it doesn't really matter much whether you are infected or not. The end result is the same - a flaky, unstable box.

I don't agree. I run XP Pro SP2 on my host machine and on a guest machine running on VMWare Workstation 7. Neither have been patched since Microsoft cut off SP2 two years ago. I actually go out of my way to get infected on the virtual machine...but haven't. I don't use IE though (except was using it for speed tests because I only installed Flash on IE on the host machine) and I have been using the proxomitron since 2002 and ProcessGuard since 2004.

I don't think Windows is unstable. I have only had 4 BSODs on this machine since Aug 2008 (when I got Everest Ultimate - I am going by its statistics) and probably about that same number between Feb 1, 2006 when I got the machine and August 2008 as I recall a couple that were connected to Kaspersky 6 and chkdsk fiasco and probably had one or two others. That's an average of slightly over one a year and this is XP not Win 7. Currently, the last boot/reboot was 51 days ago. I agree though that some Windows software is very problematic (Flash and Java) and Firefox has become unstable since 1.5 (releases are too rapid these days and the same with Opera since 10.0). I use Avira 8 (old version) since Jan 2007.
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