 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | reply to StuartMW
Re: Are you using security protection Did not really work in the end..those little tadpoles still got through and left the user strangely affected until they did a reformat/reinstall and overwrite the boot sector with a lot of polish. |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | reply to Haley J Before running any Keygen or Crack i always do an online Anti-Virus scan like VirusTotal. |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | reply to Oleg
I did use Panda long ago..even convinced some of the old timers that Panda's DOS based cleaning tools worked wonders cleaning off completely many of the well know badboys at the time. We still have a link to them at the top of this Security Forum.
»www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/···lities/?
But then all of the sudden one day in the dairy isle.....  -- Gladiator Security Forum »www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP join:2001-03-25 United State kudos:4 Reviews:
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Re: Do you use security protection said by Name Game:Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using Thanks. Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those!  |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | said by antdude:said by Name Game:Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using Thanks. Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those! Sometimes my spellchecker does that to me just to p*ss me off.  -- Gladiator Security Forum »www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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 antdudeA Ninja AntPremium,VIP join:2001-03-25 United State kudos:4 Reviews:
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| said by Name Game:said by antdude:said by Name Game:Yell us how you did it..and what is the primary use of your PC...Your OS and what browser are you using Thanks. Yell? Please, no yelling! I get enough of those! Sometimes my spellchecker does that to me just to p*ss me off. So yell and smack (with your paws) at it then! :P -- Ant @ »antfarm.ma.cx and »aqfl.net. Please do not IM/e-mail me for technical support. Use the forum! Disclaimer: The views expressed in this posting are mine, and do not necessarily reflect the views of my employer |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | I tried that..but the Checker used to be the front man for the Panda.  So it all goes back to trip to the www.freeAV stuff.com...The Panda just stood there waiting for my next move... 
Oh.... he mumbled something about I had "too many free things in my shopping cart".."and didn't I know that the price of of bamboo stalk" had gone up. I told him it was hard enough finding a good ride on the Net these dAYS and I was so dizzy trying to keep up with the big boys..I plum forgot.
In the end we parted company as friends...Panda would spam me with email every other day about what's happening in his neck of the woods...I would run hijackthis once in a while to make sure he was not messing around with my hydraulic lowrider. -- Gladiator Security Forum »www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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 | reply to Oleg Well i am an IT. I have Windows 7, and running Firefox... Not even No-Script? -- Diazruanova |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | said by Diazruanova: Well i am an IT. I have Windows 7, and running Firefox... Not even No-Script? Hope. Adblock Plus is the only thing i need to block those nasty script ad servers like OpenX ad servers. |
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 Mele20Premium join:2001-06-05 Hilo, HI kudos:4 | reply to scross
Re: Are you using security protection said by scross:This is Windows, after all, meaning that the entire ecosystem is shot full of potential security holes, down the most basic and fundamental level. I try to keep everything patched within 24-48 hours of patch availability, and I keep all of my anti-malware up to date within reasonable limits (almost all of it auto-updates, anyway). But I have absolutely no confidence that I won't get burned again someday, as I have been in the past - although it has been a while now.
Sad to say, but Windows itself and the software that runs on top of it sometimes runs so poorly and is so unstable that it doesn't really matter much whether you are infected or not. The end result is the same - a flaky, unstable box. I don't agree. I run XP Pro SP2 on my host machine and on a guest machine running on VMWare Workstation 7. Neither have been patched since Microsoft cut off SP2 two years ago. I actually go out of my way to get infected on the virtual machine...but haven't. I don't use IE though (except was using it for speed tests because I only installed Flash on IE on the host machine) and I have been using the proxomitron since 2002 and ProcessGuard since 2004.
I don't think Windows is unstable. I have only had 4 BSODs on this machine since Aug 2008 (when I got Everest Ultimate - I am going by its statistics) and probably about that same number between Feb 1, 2006 when I got the machine and August 2008 as I recall a couple that were connected to Kaspersky 6 and chkdsk fiasco and probably had one or two others. That's an average of slightly over one a year and this is XP not Win 7. Currently, the last boot/reboot was 51 days ago. I agree though that some Windows software is very problematic (Flash and Java) and Firefox has become unstable since 1.5 (releases are too rapid these days and the same with Opera since 10.0). I use Avira 8 (old version) since Jan 2007. -- When governments fear people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
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 OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium join:2003-12-08 Birmingham, AL kudos:2 | I agree. I never have had any problems with any OS. It's all depends on the user. OK maybe 3 BSODs in the life time of OS. |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | Well if you are finally admitting to stuff..then I will confess I had a Red Screech of Death when I had the windows rolled up and was attacked by a painful "blue flamer". I survived of course..but the writing was on the wall and time to get a new Internet Ride. |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | reply to Oleg
Now, earlier that day I had me a big ole plate of boiled turnip greens, webroot, and parsnips. Looking back I can say they don't mix to well in a CLOUD ..and all of the sudden..thunder road...... and I could not crank the windows down fast enough .... my Master File Tables started shaking something fierce...and this guy came to me like in a dream and told me my free seat had expired and it was time to update or move on. -- Gladiator Security Forum »www.gladiator-antivirus.com/
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 | reply to Name Game Windows is pathetic. I wish game developers would collectively agree to start developing for linux gui's so we can be done with windows for good. Fails OS |
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 Name GamePremium join:2002-07-07 North Myrtle Beach, SC kudos:7 | I think they all have their problems..but the most vulnerable is the user in any game.
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 EGeezerGo CatsPremium join:2002-08-04 Midwest kudos:8 | reply to Name Game said by Name Game:Yep..sometimes they never even know what hit them Think my first hack was 30311142.59 [Enter] 99 [Enter] 9 [Enter] and that was before they had real puters. The nixies were angry... |
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 chrisretusnRetiredPremium join:2007-08-13 Philippines kudos:1 | reply to Oleg Well I can say that I don't. Even on Linux. For one I am behind a router. That in it self is protection.
I run windows in Virtual Machines, currently Windows XP, 7 and 8. Only thing there is what comes with windows. No third party stuff at all. Windows XP and 7 come with it's built in firewall and unless it is turned off, isn't that protection? Windows 8 comes with Defender.
My browser of choice is Firefox across all operating systems I use (Windows, Linux, OS X and OS/2) I Have several security related add-ons installed. More to keep the clutter down than for security. I won't hesitate to turn them off if needed. I have been computing for many years, PC type computers since 1982. To date I have never been infected by malware. Not that malware hasn't tried. I've always stopped it. In my experience, 100% of the infections I have encountered, dealt with are, were self inflicted. -- Chris Living in Paradise!! |
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 EGeezerGo CatsPremium join:2002-08-04 Midwest kudos:8 | reply to Oleg If you use no security applications, How do you determine whether or not your PC is 100% free of any infections? |
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 StuartMWWho Is John Galt?Premium join:2000-08-06 Galt's Gulch kudos:2 Reviews:
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1 edit | reply to EGeezer said by EGeezer:The nixies were angry...
/sigh I know what nixies are 
Before micro's were invented I was playing with 7447's (TTL IC).
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 scross join:2002-09-13 Cordova, TN 2 edits | reply to Mele20 It's not just the BSODs that we're talking about here, folks - although I still get that or something similar on occasion. It's also the endless security patches (and these really will NEVER END) - 10 or so patches just yesterday, for example, plus the emergency patches a week or two before that, plus another dozen or so patches a week or two before that. Plus the infamous "Not responding" messages, and repeated registry problems (the registry was a terrible idea - or at least it's a terrible implementation), and the memory management issues, and so on and so forth - ad infinitum, ad nauseum. (I've lost count now of the number of fundamental flaws out there.) And Microsoft's promises that their next OS release WILL BE SO MUCH BETTER - only it never is, or is only just marginally so.
In my opinion - and in my experience, of over 30 years now - the only people who believe Microsoft systems are of any appreciable quality are those who have simply never worked with anything else, or at least haven't worked with anything else of truly high quality (these tend to cost real $$$). I'm not saying that there aren't "good enough" Microsoft systems for at least limited uses, but these are certainly not to be held up as examples of high quality. "Cheap enough to get us by for now, if we close our eyes and keep our fingers crossed" - maybe.
The entire Microsoft ecosystem is corrupt. There are certain segments of the IT industry who have realized that it's time to move on, and who are becoming quite vocal about it. Microsoft, of course, keeps making promises, but by the time they actually deliver on these promises (if ever), there may not be anyone left around waiting to benefit from them.
PS: And for those of you who say that you've never been hit with malware - the question has already been asked: "How do you know if you've haven't run a deep scan for this?" (Actually, multiple scans using multiple products are usually necessary for full disclosure.) Also, YOU may not be the ultimate target here; you may just be the man-in-the-middle, or the endpoint machine in a botnet, or whatever. Or you may be seeing ads or pop-ups or other things on your machine that are the result of tampering, and you just don't realize it. Or you may have been the victim or a hit-and-run, where the perpetrator (human or machine) scanned your system and decided there was nothing of immediate value there, so they moved on - possibly covering their tracks when they left. Or they have may hacked certain web pages that do their dirty-work only while they are loaded up in your browser, and then they disappear after that. The possibilities here are almost endless. |
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