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Re: Bell Fibe175 in Ontario Why would anyone be stupid enough to go for such a rip-off deal when anyone can get free high speed wifi that amounts to more than 300 GB per month?
»www.therecord.com/news/local/art···o-region
In KW area and many other cities ppl leave their wifi open for anyone to use .. on purpose.
The problem is Bell Rogers and others have been waging a war on such open free internet. They setup dead-end APs [xxxxxxxx-guest], excessive noise APs and antennas, reflectors, EM generators, harass customers for leaving their wifi open and other schemes.
Better idea is to use the KISS rule, keep it simple stupid, by bypassing rip-off ISPs.
One or few ppl can get a fiber line from a main backbone to an area of the city / community where it can be distributed by the community .. whether Bell Rogers etc like it or not.
Bypass the middle man principle.
There are a growing number of communities that are doing just that. And they are only paying for raw bandwidth per GB, as they use it .. no prepaid bundles.
Recently i received a 54 Mbps router from such an operation, due to upgrades, who's SSID is "FuK BeLL & Rogers". I gave it to a local computer shop who proudly runs it as is. |
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Available for me?
R3a11y? |
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| said by fatlightpipe :I doubt! I can only get serviced with 6M/800k DSL and now all of a sudden there is fibre to the home. Not bloody likely.
It said yes for me the first time, and now it says no... I'm assuming if you check again it'll say no.
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Re: Bell Fibe175 in Ontario Sounds like a Bell tactic.
YES you can get our overpriced and limited in 10 houses FTTH service
NOPE just kidding. We got you. |
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Re: Bell Fibe175 in Ontario said by 04193189:Why would anyone be stupid enough to go for such a rip-off deal when anyone can get free high speed wifi that amounts to more than 300 GB per month?
»www.therecord.com/news/local/art···o-region
In KW area and many other cities ppl leave their wifi open for anyone to use .. on purpose.
Thanks for the link, I'm glad to see the K-W is looking toward the future as always.
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said by TSI Marc:I'm afraid that will be another battle at the CRTC :\
reason being that there's no copper in any part of those loops.
Honestly I can't see a single legitimate reason why Bell should be forced to offer wholesale service over such a network.
The old copper network was built under a lot of government protection and even a few subsidies along the way, but that was AGES ago. The new network has been built entirely by Bell themselves independent of government-enforced monopolies.
What Canada telecom needs is more COMPETITION, not more government regulation. |
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said by 04193189:Why would anyone be stupid enough to go for such a rip-off deal when anyone can get free high speed wifi that amounts to more than 300 GB per month?
"Free" wireless isn't free, it's just being paid from indirectly and/or by someone else.
In the above case it is just one small part of the reason why Waterloo property taxes cost homeowners in this city thousands of dollars every year. |
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Who paid for / pays for / owns the rights of way that are used for the lines? Can I go and sling new lines along the poles / underground? Same questions for the COs. Same questions for the remotes / land the remotes are on.
I don't think it is quite that simple. Bell may be paying for the new fiber and the labour to put it up, but it is built on a lot of existing infrastructure that was / is funded by the taxpayer. |
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Wrong .. you should seriously look up what exactly property taxes actually pay for.
Please post it on here for proof that you have done so.
If you dig deep enough you will find ALL your services are supposed to be paid for by your personal account created in your name.
Hint: »www.youtube.com/results?search_q···emocracy
I suggest you seriously study what's being said in all 4 parts
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mlernerPremium
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The fibre network isn't paid by the tax payer, in the past we could partially make the argument for copper because of subsidies. |
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True ... yet as my above link states your personal account created in your name does pay for it and then some.
You will also see that bottom of your bill for any essential services looks like a cheque .. it is. So when you pay via cheque, money order or cash you endorse the cheque at bottom of your bill and pay out of your pocket as well. Therefore you pay twice without knowing it .. and they just ripped you off right in front of your face. :P
There's a catch in this statement .. can you figure it out?
Besides ... Bell was given loads of money in the 1990's to bring fiber to every home and business, no matter how remote it may be. They squandered the money with promise to build later. We still don't see it today as it was a scam. |
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Yes but the point I'm trying to make is that while it may not have been paid for by taxpayers it sits on land and uses resources (poles, vaults, conduit) that was and is reserved (more or less) exclusively for the use of the incumbents.
I'm just trying to say that it isn't as simple as it may appear to say that it is a completely separate network with no taxpayer support behind it. |
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| Let me help you out Phibian
Anyone who owns and holds "title" to property usually owns it to center of road. All roads, poles etc that's on this property is called public as it's leased by city, province and/or others.
For this, essential services are provided at no cost to owner. Service charges are there to help out in times of need per project or company. Companies / corporations have taken this to new level of extortion by deception as they clearly make huge profits.
Remedy for this is »projectarise.com/debtelimprocesses.php in the USA
Now try to find it or figure it out for Canada |
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HarperLand | reply to HoserMcMoose
I can tell you why. Because of those monopolies, they've become hugely profitable and can afford to roll out FTTH
So indirectly it's also been built under the government. |
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kudos:20 | reply to videonerd
Sonic.net has near-identical revenue to TekSavvy, as well as a similar reputation; they're basically TekSavvy California. They started out by wiring up the tiny little town of Sebastopol (population under 8000) with gigabit fibre, and are using that experience to wire up San Francisco (similar population to Montreal) with the same. They charge $70/mth for unlimited gigabit.
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Ah g777 you may want to read that site info again.
"Come on out and stay connected. That’s the selling point of free public Wi-Fi, which costs the city of Waterloo about $6,552 a year to offer."
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"The Wi-Fi wave is now engulfing Cambridge, where city council this week agreed to spend about $9,889 to start up free service in and around city hall in Galt.
The annual cost to run it will be $1,728."
Free eh, I think not. Someone is picking up the bill.
Also when you're connecting to someones "Free" wifi, there is a chance you are connecting to some poor souls internet that has not got a chance to secure his connection and is using up their bandwidth and costing that person money.
There always have been free hot spots around, just finding them. Its nice that the city is doing that for the public. But then again, where is the money coming from for the city to buy the hardware.... I think you know where i'm going with this
Also that last mile back end is also owned by the big three also, and also the polls are owned by the hydro company and you have to have a permit to install cables on the polls. just a heads up.
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Ah, and you may not have watched link i gave to "HoserMcMoose" above. Nor put all the links and info i posted as part of whole package.
Now how much is 1/32Millionth of Canada and what kind of profits does it make, and for what purposes?
How much is city getting paid in the background from these accounts and also charging taxes on top?
That yearly transfer from federal government to provinces is your and everyone's unclaimed cash .. after fed has distributed most of it to their buddies .. the super rich.
That poor soul has the option of paying as i mentioned before or secure it or leave it open. There are more and more ppl leaving wifi open .. even with threats from telcos.
There's also the option of suing telcos for not providing as promised in 1990's. Many across this land have done so and received full speed fiber and full range of services to their homes at no cost to them.
Many rich and super rich and/or government connected have used this info to get free everything.
Have you thought about what happens when owner / title holder of property says i'm revoking your lease/s if you, the government, don't give me free services, as they supposed to?
No matter which way you slice it government [corporation of Canada] is ripping off those who don't know. |
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Another waste of my tax dollars in progress. When will this city learn that half of K/W is west of Westmount? Or better, when will this city learn to let people spend their money as they personally choose?
My taxes went up 15% this year to support the LRT and other insane things that I can never use in this city. It's disgusting. |
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