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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME

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Re: What usenet service everyone using now?

said by sfl0w:

@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their going to do it anyway...

You seem to be being deliberately obtuse to the whole situation. Group NAME does not equal group CONTENT.

The groups chosen to be removed were chosen because the names sounded bad and I think it was also around the time that politician in NY was trying to get elected and managed to get TW and Comcast to discontinue providing usenet access to their end users as well.

Everybody felt better after because they think they put a dent in CP. Thinking logically though, CP traders didnt just give up their addiction / illness, they simply moved to other obscure groups...I would be surprised if they were even using the removed groups to begin with.

Don't you think if the groups "sole purpose is to spread child pornography..." were actually true, law enforcement would want them accessible? It would be like shooting fish in a barrel for them. They simply drove it further underground. I guess if it isnt seen though, it isnt happening right?

Will you sing the same tune when the recording industries realize they can pay a politician off and get a.b.dvdr removed or a.b.hdtv because the mere name MIGHT insinuate copyright infringement? Wonder how easy everyone will bend for that request.

Absolutely no reason to go after group names, you go after posters if there is an issue with posts.

Your drug dealer analogy is a stupid one and proves my point. Close off access and police one corner, drug dealers will go to a different corner. Secure that one and they will go to the alley or park. you need to take out the dealer directly.
unoriginal
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join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA

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Before @swintec attacks other providers for censorship, it ought to known for anyone who is interested that Blocknews and UsenetNow both take no responsibility and openly support newsgroups that knowingly contain and are only online to spread child pornography.
Wow, way to take this thread off the rails. But if you are going to point fingers at anyone you might as well do it at Readnews since that is what usenetnow and blocknews resell.

Also take your pitchfork and torches and go raise bloody hell with Ngroups.net since they are a Readnews reseller as well.

If you are going to tar and feather people you might as well get all of them.

sfl0w
join:2010-07-20
Birmingham, AL

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said by swintec:

said by sfl0w:

@swintec, no disrespect, but seriously though, how can you justify hosting groups on your feed whose sole purpose is to spread child pornography...so your attitude is well the drug dealers are always going to be dealing on one street corner or another so why not just let them use mine, their going to do it anyway...

You seem to be being deliberately obtuse to the whole situation. Group NAME does not equal group CONTENT.

The implication that these groups were just removed without anyone actually examining the content inside is completely ridiculous. Surely no one is stupid enough to buy into that sack of bull, there are to many folks at IWF and to many members do you honestly think that an organization whose mission is to eliminate criminal content is not actually going to go after the content? Don't know what planet your living on, but that just isn't the case and doesn't make any sense at all - but of course I guess you can keep telling people that the group name has nothing to do with content...hey everybody @swintec says we won't find anymore nude pics in the playboy groups(they are really filled with comic book art..)... ridiculousness