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Chris 313
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reply to anon5324

Re: [Speed] Northeast speed changes coming.

Or better. One that does 32 channels: »www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable



IowaCowboy
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reply to aguiar0016

What about areas in the Northeast like Springfield, MA that cannot get FiOS but are upgraded to D3.



Morac
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said by IowaCowboy:

What about areas in the Northeast like Springfield, MA that cannot get FiOS but are upgraded to D3.

I'm assuming that won't matter. For example I can't get FIOS at my location, but it's available in the next town over from me. Both my town and that town are in the same local Comcast area. As such I get the benefits for any upgrades/specials that Comcast makes to compete with FIOS in the next town over even though I can't get FIOS.
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relish

join:2009-07-21
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reply to aguiar0016

Nice thread! After reading the FIOS Quantum announcement, I scrambled to the forums hoping to find a post like this.

This gives Comcast 6 months to roll out to all DOCSIS 3.0 markets by the end of the year. Michigan was one of the last states to receive the DOCSIS 3.0 upgrade, but now that the infrastructure is in place, I suspect the speed changes are only a matter of sending a config file update to their boxes. After all, I could get 100Mb right now if I wanted, so the capacity on their networks should be there. For those in other cities who waited FOREVER for DOCSIS 3.0, I don't think these speed changes will be as painful as a wait because the infrastructure is already there.

That's also an awesome article Chris 313. Just when I thought DOCSIS 3.0 hit its limits, they find a way to add more channels. I always loved the idea of fiber, but if cable can keep up, I think I can be content for a while. Just need to heighten those monthly caps...



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Yes indeed. My area just got 16/2 a little over a year ago. Still no D3 goodies in sight until the end of the year or into 2013. So, speed upgrades/changes would be most welcome. If I went from 16/2 to 50/? it'd be worth the wait, but there's another thing. The 50 tier has been out for 5 years now and hasn't seen much upgrading. Wonder how long it'll take them to upgrade that to the new 75 speed that FiOS is rolling out now.

As for raising caps, see here: »Comcast to Raise Caps, Start Charging Overage Fees

As for the 32 channel modem, I want one. Getting something and probably not having to upgrade for years suits me well equipment wise. Now, if I get that 50 speed rumored here, I'll have to upgrade my router. Anything past 32-35 and I'll top out. And I want every bit of speed I pay almost 60 for.



gate1975mlm
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reply to aguiar0016

said by aguiar0016:

Comcast is changing their blast and extreme 50 tiers in the northeast only. Blast is going to 50 download and extreme 50 goes to 105 download. Extreme 105 goes away and customers get a price decrease. No mention of upload speeds. This will happen within 90 days. Notification being sent out to customers.

So does this mean the whole Philadelphia area will be getting these great speed upgrades too?

aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
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reply to IowaCowboy

You should be able to get the speeds.



Anon2482

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No Comcast didnt piss themselves, Verizon pissed themselves when Comcast upped their speeds to 10Gbps. I assure you Verizon is playing follow the leader not vice versa, and still they are only offering up to 300Mbps as opposed to Comcasts 10Gbps, yes with a G.



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said by Anon2482 :

No Comcast didnt piss themselves, Verizon pissed themselves when Comcast upped their speeds to 10Gbps. I assure you Verizon is playing follow the leader not vice versa, and still they are only offering up to 300Mbps as opposed to Comcasts 10Gbps, yes with a G.

Comcast is incapable of providing speeds anywhere close to 10Gbps over cable. The fastest the D3 standard allows is 300 Mbps.

If you are talking about Comcast Enterprise service, you do realize that's done completely over fiber and isn't even really done by Comcast. They contract out to a 3rd party company for the fiber link and even that service doesn't offer a 10Gbps connection.
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said by Anon2482 :

No Comcast didnt piss themselves, Verizon pissed themselves when Comcast upped their speeds to 10Gbps. I assure you Verizon is playing follow the leader not vice versa, and still they are only offering up to 300Mbps as opposed to Comcasts 10Gbps, yes with a G.

Where can you get 10Gbps at home? That's enterprise only service. This is Comcast's response to FiOS upgrades.

hclarkjr

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reply to aguiar0016

can not wait!!! hopefully it is real soon



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Makes sense to me since here in CT there really is a fairly narrow difference between the Performance (which I have) and Blast tiers.

Here is what I have with ShaperProbe:

DiffProbe release. January 2012. Build 1008.
Shaper Detection Module.

Connected to server 217.163.1.74.

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 3843 Kbps.
Downstream: 24736 Kbps.

The measurement will take upto 2.5 minutes. Please wait.

Checking for traffic shapers:

Upstream: Burst size: 5042-5107 KB;
Shaping rate: 2053 Kbps.

Downstream: Burst size: 4790-5151 KB;
Shaping rate: 20197 Kbps.

For more information, visit: »www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffprobe

Although the upstream capacity of Blast is decent, the downstream difference is hardly worth the cost differential from what I can see. Based on today's speeds it makes sense to increase the difference, and drop an unecessary tier, both simplifying and clarifying the tiers.

The reality is that they are in effect dropping the current Blast tier, but borrowing the name since having Blast 50 and Extreme 105 makes better sense name-wise from a marketing aspect.
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reply to Morac

Correction: Comcast might contract for building out the fiber to a given location, but once that's done they own the network end-to-end. That said, you're looking at $30,000 or more for that connection per month.


jtavarez

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reply to aguiar0016

As long as comcast has bandwith caps and overages it will never be competitive with FIOS-Who needs a quatrillion gigabit per second if you have to wait a month until cap resets



Anon2482

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I do understand all of that, I work for Comcast Enterprise Service and it is in fact done on our own Fiber network 70% of the time the other 30% of the time is due to serviceability of our footprint and utilize level 3 in these cases so we can provide service across the country, UP TO 10Gbps.



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reply to aguiar0016

This is going to cause alot of headaches in various departments within Comcast. Namely technical support and the headend managers pushing new configuration files to a boat load of modems. Looks like triple overtime pay



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said by Mike Wolf:

This is going to cause alot of headaches in various departments within Comcast. Namely technical support and the headend managers pushing new configuration files to a boat load of modems. Looks like triple overtime pay

How is this any different than any other speed increase? A few key strokes and the modems that are supposed to have it, will.
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Mike Wolf

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Because of the elimination of a higher speed tier configuration file, modems programmed with that file would go offline causing tech support calls and truck rolls which ideally would like to be avoided. After the IPv6 fiasco with the Netgear modems, all eyes are on everyone. In other speed increases, the configuration file isn't replaced, it's usually just modified.

Anyway it's going to require the extra work by rebooting and adjusting each affected account's modem individually.



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said by Mike Wolf:

Because of the elimination of a higher speed tier configuration file, modems programmed with that file would go offline causing tech support calls and truck rolls which ideally would like to be avoided. After the IPv6 fiasco with the Netgear modems, all eyes are on everyone. In other speed increases, the configuration file isn't replaced, it's usually just modified.

Anyway it's going to require the extra work by rebooting and adjusting each affected account's modem individually.

I don't see why this need be complicated. There are a number of things Comcast could do:

1. Leave the original higher speed tier configuration file in place and simply adjust the speeds in the Blast and old 50 Mbps file.

2. Bump up the speeds in the Blast and 50 Mbps tiers. Then switch all 100 Mbps users to the new 100 Mbps configuration file and delete the old high speed tier configuration file.

3. Remove the low speed tier and simply change the configuration files for Blast and 50 Mbps users to the 50 Mbps and 100 Mbps configuration files.

My guess is that there are very few users on the 100 mbps tier compared to the current Blast and 50 Mbps tiers so #2 above would require the least amount of changes to users accounts. Well technically #1 would, but then there's duplicate configuration files.

Blast and 50 Mbps users will have to reboot their modems to get the new speeds anyway. 100 Mbps users won't have to reboot, but when they do in the future, they'll pull in the new 100 Mbps config file.

It shouldn't be any more complicated than any other speed boost. Switching current 100 Mbps users over to the new configuration file could be automated, but even if it could not, like I said I doubt there are that many 100 Mbps users.
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EG
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FWIW, these days, the config files in the modem actually point to the correct rate limits for the provisioned / subscribed to speeds on the CMTS config. Rates are controlled at and by the CMTS.



rootuser1725

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comcast needs to upgrade speeds across the board again to keep up with fios

economy tier needs upgraded to no less than 10/1
16/2 needs to become 20/5
20/2 needs to become 30/5 or higher
50/10 needs to become 100/25
105/25 needs to become 200/50



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I still haven't seen anything official from Comcast about upgrades.
It would be great if true, but with no sources or even a peep from anyone at Comcast........ehhhh.

And I'm sure Comcast can batch new bootfiles easily, it's not like they haven't upgraded before.......I recieved 2 new speeds within weeks after D3 was finally brought here..
..from 16/2 to 20/4 and 2 weeks later 25/4.



YukonHawk

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Patterson, NY

I think I may be in the same camp as you. Seems suspect until an official announcement from Comcast.



gate1975mlm
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Just wanted to let you all know that I was just listening to local radio station 94WIP Sports Radio here in Philly and they just had a brand new Comcast commercial talking about the new speed upgrade coming very soon!

So it is indeed very true!

Here is someones speed test with the Extreme 50/10 Package that will soon become Blast! I wonder if we will also get the higher upload speeds aswell?

He is using a Arris TM702G Modem

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-lPO4u9nIQ

aguiar0016

join:2006-01-23
New Bedford, MA

Nice to hear the commercials are starting.
THey don't actually mention the speeds themselves do they?



camper
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reply to aguiar0016

I've been noticing some changes in the shaperprobe results here. The download speed seems to have settled in around 15 to 16mbps, up from 8mbps of a few weeks ago.



Chris 313
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Could you or anyone else who see's the commercials/radio ads record them and post them here? I'd like to see the proof with my own eyes.



gate1975mlm
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said by aguiar0016:

Nice to hear the commercials are starting.
THey don't actually mention the speeds themselves do they?

Yes I am pretty sure they did mention the speeds too.

I was in the shower at the time I heard it so I can't be 100% sure but yes I am pretty sure they said Blast becomes 50 and Extreme becomes 105


gate1975mlm
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said by Chris 313:

Could you or anyone else who see's the commercials/radio ads record them and post them here? I'd like to see the proof with my own eyes.

I will try to record the radio commercial for you.


Chris 313
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said by gate1975mlm:

said by Chris 313:

Could you or anyone else who see's the commercials/radio ads record them and post them here? I'd like to see the proof with my own eyes.

I will try to record it for you.

Thank you. I wish someone had all Comcast commercials on Youtube. I hear the Comcast Cali commercial for Blast, poking fun at AT&T's laughable 6 Meg service was pretty funny.

Dadkins had heard it and had a good laugh over it when he told me.