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FFH
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reply to ISurfTooMuch

Re: Using IP address legal & practical

said by ISurfTooMuch:

Easy to say until you're the one affected by such a mistake. And remember, we aren't talking about pocket change here; people are getting sued for hundreds of thousands of dollars,

The 6 strikes process this whole thread is about isn't about lawsuits. It is about several warnings and possibly curtailed service and maybe at the end a disconnection. I don't think the IP ID process has to be like a capital murder trial, though that is what pirates want it to be.

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

No it isn't like a capital murder trial, but you have to consider three things here. First, there is no requirement that an ISP participates in this program, so, even if the RIAA and MPAA say they won't sue anyone until their six strikes are up, such a promise wouldn't cover anyone using a non-participating ISP. Second, such a promise not to sue is just that: a promise. It carries no legal weight, so these organizations could sue at any time if they felt justified in doing so. Third, there are many, many individuals and companies that hold copyrights, and they aren't obligated in any way to participate in this program.

So, in reality, you have no real protection here. The most you have is a promise that only the copyright holders signed on to this program won't sue the customer of a participating ISP; a promise that isn't worth a thing if it isn't honored.



The Limit
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Can you imagine the influx of calls that these ISPs are going to receive even if piracy was so rampant? This is not going to fix anything: it's only going to cause MORE problems like increased costs to ISPs, unless I'm missing something here.

And with all due respect, I thought you were against government intervention of any kind?
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FFH
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Re: Using IP address legal & practical

said by The Limit:

And with all due respect, I thought you were against government intervention of any kind?

Where did you get the mistaken idea? There is a place for laws. I am just against government handing out money to society's drones.


The Limit
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Ahem, isn't that what will be happening indirectly with the entertainment industry? Using government laws to make sure someone's business model doesn't fail seems to be the scenario here. Let the free market work it out.
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"We will evaluate these integrals rigorously if we can, and non-rigorously if we must".
---Victor Moll, invited talk, Tom Osler Fest (April 17, 2010)


The Antihero

join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
reply to The Limit

said by The Limit:

And with all due respect, I thought you were against government intervention of any kind?

He's only against government intervention when it interferes with big business.


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Government intervention should be rare and occur primarily to combat fraud and abuse. Whether it benefits or interferes with big or small business should be irrelevant. I think a lot of current regulations are made specifically to target big business (sometimes correctly, sometimes not), and small businesses suffer greatly in the crossfire.



The Limit
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Example?