sam64
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Newtown, PA | Time will tell....... I guess the proof of the pudding is in the eating 
Has the crew in Redmond not learnt anything after all these years? They keep doing this -- announcing products with all these features and great specs when they have nothing ready only ideas and vaporware.
Time will tell if this is a real, killer product or just another Microsoft over promise and under deliver folly.
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 | | Re: Time will tell....... My take is it'll fail just all the other devices they've created. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Time will tell....... said by Boricua65:My take is it'll fail just all the other devices they've created.
Like the Xbox?? | |
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| Re: Time will tell....... said by Linklist:said by Boricua65:My take is it'll fail just all the other devices they've created.
Like the Xbox?? The kin, actimates, spot watch, windows mobile 6 phones, wp7 phones, Ultimate TV, origami project, zune, XP tablet PCs, et al.
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| | | | | Re: Time will tell....... Actually the WP7 phones are pretty good. I have one for work and my home phone is an iPhone. I like the Windows 7 phone so much I'll probably make the jump from Apple once the Win8 phones are available. The biggest problem with the Win7 phones to date have been more marketing than product quality. My Nokia is pretty sharp and the OS is better IMO than the IOS on my Apple.
From the people I've shown it to are 'Wow this is pretty cool, I didn't know MS made new phones.' Most people think of windows mobile 6 when they think of a MS mobile OS. I feel with the move to standardize the OS functionality across mobile and desktop will change a lot of views come Q4. But then this is the same thing Apple is trying to do with it's roadmap for IOS and OSX. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Time will tell....... said by Uncle Paul:Actually the WP7 phones are pretty good. I have one for work and my home phone is an iPhone. I like the Windows 7 phone so much I'll probably make the jump from Apple once the Win8 phones are available.
Windows Phone 8 expected to debut tomorrow:
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Microsoft just pulled the wraps off its first tablet effort last night, and tomorrow, a different arm of the software giant could be preparing to do the same with Windows Phone.
Microsoft expected to announce Windows Phone 8 tomorrow. At a developer summit in San Francisco tomorrow, Microsoft could have something to say about its next operating system.
Windows Phone 8, code-named Apollo, should headline the agenda. Microsoft has all but announced that future iterations of Windows Phone OS will support multicore processors, a hardware consideration that requires software on their end to function efficiently. However, getting developers to code for multi-threaded processing is also key. We should expect for multicore processor support to become official. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Time will tell....... Cool. I'd still like to see what the other offerings will be for handsets instead of jumping on the first one out the gate. Thanks for the info! | |
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| | | | | | | Too bad existing wp7 phones will not be upgraded to wp8. Other platforms are more forgiving with OS updates.
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1 edit | The only people (and companies) that never fail are those that never do anything.
MS has had many failures, and even more successes (speaking in terms of impact, not the count of esoteric side projects). This only indicates that they tried different things. The tablet - an Ultrabook really - will live and die by its performance and price, not by your comparisons with the sports watch.
The WinRT tablet is a more interesting beast, and while it too will depend on how it is positioned in the market, its corporate appeal is something that will be tested. | |
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| | | | | well hell..yup thats everything MS has ever created...well done!! | |
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| | | | | The Zune was a great product and I loved the hell out of it but after Microsoft decided to stop it for whatever reason I gave it up for a usb stick plugged into my car radio. | |
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| | | | Yes like Xbox. You know that device they poured close to $6 BILLION dollars into that they have in the last year or so made about $100 million on. At that rate they might break even in 20 years.
The pit of money that has been the Xbox will likely NEVER see a positive return on investment. I could sell billions of widgets too if I wanted to lose that much money on them, in fact anyone could. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Time will tell....... said by rahvin112:Yes like Xbox. You know that device they poured close to $6 BILLION dollars into that they have in the last year or so made about $100 million on. At that rate they might break even in 20 years.
The pit of money that has been the Xbox will likely NEVER see a positive return on investment. I could sell billions of widgets too if I wanted to lose that much money on them, in fact anyone could.
Any proof of that claim. Have you got internal Microsoft docs showing profit and loss on the Xbox? | |
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| | | | | | Re: Time will tell....... They are a public company, their financial statements and the profits of losses of the microsoft entertainment division have been published since 2005 at least, that I'm aware of, they may even have been broken out before that but I haven't followed it that closely before that date.
In early 2005 MS disclosed they had lost approximately 4 billion dollars up to that date, the red ring of death cost them 2 charges of about 1.9 billion total. They made a little money for a few quarters in 2009 even reaching the point of making about $600 Million total in 2009 that caused the street to start calling for the divisions spin off. Not to let making a little money get in their way they promptly started losing money on the division again losing almost half the years profit in one quarter. It's been hit or miss since with the last 2 quarters seeing losses in excess of 100 million dollars which combined with the preceding losses wiped out nearly all the previous profits recorded and don't even touch the losses up to and including the red ring of death debacle.
Rather than insinuate that I'm making financial facts up about Microsoft when their financial statements are not only public but easily accessible through MANY websites you should do a little research before you claim something is a success. Anyone can sell something at a huge loss and sell millions and the XBOX has been a financial disaster any other company wouldn't have survived. Frankly the only reason Xbox has succeeded commercially is that MS is subsidizing their sales with profits from their monopoly, something that's illegal under US law and given Sony's likely exit from the console market is likely to elicit a lawsuit on their part. | |
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| | said by sam64:I guess the proof of the pudding is in the eating
Has the crew in Redmond not learnt anything after all these years? They keep doing this -- announcing products with all these features and great specs when they have nothing ready only ideas and vaporware.
That's right! All the reviews I've seen only show the MS tablet displaying the ugly Metro interface; not even the tablet's ad on the microsoft website shows anything that would make me think about this product.
I do not own any Apple product, but the Ipad, especially the version 3 product, is a very slick product with awesome display. Windows 8 user interface is not a match to it and I think the Surface will go the way of the Zune. | |
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