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Coma
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Re: Garage addition


It's a PITA to paint.

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said by Coma:


It's a PITA to paint.

You don't pay other people to do painting for you?


Coma
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I used too, but that was when I was younger when I didn't have any other resources.

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said by Coma:


I used too, but that was when I was younger when I didn't have any other resources.

I wouldn't paint if that's the only thing that would save my life. I'll do almost anything else home improvement wise but not paint. I'd much rather pull a live 200amp wire then paint!
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Coma
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I was a licensed general contractor in another life. So was my father and also my sister.

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fcisler
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NOT TEXTURED!

For the love of everything repairable!

Once you "texture" it it's a PITA the clean. Repairs are also ALWAYS noticeable.

My living room is HALF textured. Why? I have no clue. This leaves me two options: Scrape all the texture off or texture the rest. Without knowing WHAT they used to texture it's going to be almost impossible to match it.

Oh...I chose the third option. Lay new drywall over the old


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said by fcisler:

NOT TEXTURED!

For the love of everything repairable!

Once you "texture" it it's a PITA the clean. Repairs are also ALWAYS noticeable.

My living room is HALF textured. Why? I have no clue. This leaves me two options: Scrape all the texture off or texture the rest. Without knowing WHAT they used to texture it's going to be almost impossible to match it.

Oh...I chose the third option. Lay new drywall over the old

What they said was the texture is just how the skim coat over the drywall looks after being applied. If you want it smooth they sand it down so an extra step.
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Coma
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said by Draiman:

What they said was the texture is just how the skim coat over the drywall looks after being applied. If you want it smooth they sand it down so an extra step.


Just tape the seams and forget about skim coating the rest of the drywall, that's what paint is for.

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They feed you a load of bull.


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said by DarkLogix:

They feed you a load of bull.

Except the BI said the same thing as do the DIY sites. Textured you don't sands the 3rd and 4th skim coats and smooth you sand the 3rd and 4th coat.
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From what I've been told you just use a different roller, and it can get hard to make it totally smooth this was as it can run a little, but possible if careful.
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said by Coma:

said by Draiman:

What they said was the texture is just how the skim coat over the drywall looks after being applied. If you want it smooth they sand it down so an extra step.


Just tape the seams and forget about skim coating the rest of the drywall, that's what paint is for.

Yea that's the other school of thought. The BI said he wouldn't sign off on the firewall with just that done so it was skim coated. I guess it really doesn't matter if the interior garage matches the hallway and upstairs of the garage though.

I was reading up and textured sucks if you ever want wallpaper so I'm doing the walls smooth whether that's skim coat and sand or just leave the drywall bare and only mud the seems/corners/edges/etc.

If I go the skim coat route I'm paying someone to do the work where as if it's just seem/corner/edge mudding I'd do the drywall work myself.
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I called the BI to talk to him about a 'finish' permit. I mentioned I planned to do 1/2" drywall for everything and he said I should do 1/2" on the walls and 5/8" on the ceiling. It's not a big price difference for just the ceilings but I wasn't sure why he would recommend a thicker drywall for the ceiling? Anyone heard of this?
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said by Draiman:

It's not a big price difference for just the ceilings but I wasn't sure why he would recommend a thicker drywall for the ceiling?

The thicker drywall is less likely to bend or crack (either from its own weight or from the insulation above it). This is less of an issue in vertical applications why a thinner drywall is sufficient for the walls.
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around here, 5/8 is usually only fire rated, and code is 30 minute fire rated for all ceilings to slow the vertical climb.


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Don't forget to put beads on Drywall adhesive on the joists/studs that meet the sheetrock. Around here, it is code to use adhesive for ceilings along with screws. I also put on walls to cut down vibrations (media room). (PS. don't ask me how I feel about screws vs nails)

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said by cableties:

Don't forget to put beads on Drywall adhesive on the joists/studs that meet the sheetrock. Around here, it is code to use adhesive for ceilings along with screws. I also put on walls to cut down vibrations (media room). (PS. don't ask me how I feel about screws vs nails)

(subwoofer makes the closet doors rattle...)

I would put on some adhesive if I did the job myself but it's not code so the pros won't do that. They just toss up screws ever 12 inches on walls and every 9 inches on ceilings.
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said by Draiman:

it's not code so the pros won't do that.

A real pro will do what the client specifies.
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said by AVD:

said by Draiman:

it's not code so the pros won't do that.

A real pro will do what the client specifies.

They'll gladly do overkill if your willing to pay. Who wouldn't do more if it made them more money? Even McD's is pushing to get you to upgrade from a Medium to a Large. Anything that empties your pocket into theirs!
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cableties
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Here, they have to put adhesive up as there was a lawsuit against several townhome builders where the ceiling sheetrock collapsed on owners. 'rockers used nails only-no screws.

I've had several nails get popped because of the "truss" floor flex. I got mad a the crappy Sears Shop vac, kicked it and threw it down (anger issue with the *%^^! wheels that won't roll) on bedroom subfloor (before new carpet...pulled out all nails and replaced with deck screws).

Next day, I am looking at living room ceiling and HOLY !!!!
(they only used nails...I went back and put fields of screws 1" off the nail heads, pulled nails out and filled).

When I remodeled the basement, the association contact told me to use adhesive and screws for ceilings. Stuff was cheap (case of liquid nails drywall adhesive big tubes). Since I was below grade, I did green sheets and screws.

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That's the condo association not code. I used adhesive when I put up some drywall ceilings but I did it for sound proofing. You use this green sound proofing adhesive then put it all over the drywall and attach a second piece of drywall.

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egg crates are better and more pleasing to the eye.

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said by AVD:

egg crates are better and more pleasing to the eye.

Not to the wife or to resale value though.


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The first drywall quote came in at $3,000 and I estimated it will cost me $1,000 to do it myself in materials. Not sure what way I want to go. I guess maybe a second quote first to see what the ballpark is on price.
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stev32k
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I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

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said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

You're not thinking 3D. The ceiling is around 500 sq. ft. by itself. Add the walls, stairs, hallway, etc. and I bet it's more like 2,000 sq. ft. worth of drywall. That puts it around $1.50/sq. ft. which is about average.


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said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!


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said by Msradell:

said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!

I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense.
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said by natedj:

said by Msradell:

said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!

I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense.

Yes, I was referring to the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE.


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said by stev32k:

Yes, I was referring the the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE.

The Boston area is about 200% higher cost of living then Mobile, AL so if $50/sq. ft. is average in your area then $150/sq. ft. is the same here. Typically new construction runs around $150/sq. ft. here but I cut lots of corners, paid vendors cash for discounts, did some work myself, etc. to get it down as much as I could.
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