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Re: Garage addition That's the condo association not code. I used adhesive when I put up some drywall ceilings but I did it for sound proofing. You use this green sound proofing adhesive then put it all over the drywall and attach a second piece of drywall.
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| said by AVD:egg crates are better and more pleasing to the eye. Not to the wife or to resale value though. |
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| reply to Draiman The first drywall quote came in at $3,000 and I estimated it will cost me $1,000 to do it myself in materials. Not sure what way I want to go. I guess maybe a second quote first to see what the ballpark is on price. -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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 stev32kPremium join:2000-04-27 Mobile, AL kudos:1 | reply to Draiman I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft? |
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| said by stev32k:I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft? You're not thinking 3D. The ceiling is around 500 sq. ft. by itself. Add the walls, stairs, hallway, etc. and I bet it's more like 2,000 sq. ft. worth of drywall. That puts it around $1.50/sq. ft. which is about average. |
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| reply to stev32k said by stev32k:I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft? $3000/747=$74? You need schooling! |
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| said by Msradell:said by stev32k:I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft? $3000/747=$74? You need schooling! I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense. -- Good judgement comes with experience...Experience comes after bad judgements |
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1 edit | said by natedj:said by Msradell:said by stev32k:I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft? $3000/747=$74? You need schooling! I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense. Yes, I was referring to the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE. |
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| said by stev32k:Yes, I was referring the the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE. The Boston area is about 200% higher cost of living then Mobile, AL so if $50/sq. ft. is average in your area then $150/sq. ft. is the same here. Typically new construction runs around $150/sq. ft. here but I cut lots of corners, paid vendors cash for discounts, did some work myself, etc. to get it down as much as I could. -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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| That's pretty amazing. I knew the building costs were higher, but didn't realize they were that much higher. My brother-in-law just had a 3-car, 30' X 35' garage built. It is brick veneer, finished inside, but not insulated and does not have storage space above. His total cost was a little under $35,000 or about $33/ sq ft. |
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| reply to Draiman Here's a great quote I ran into during this project.
"Pricing a house/addition by the square foot is like pricing a car by the pound. A Ford and a Mercedes probably weigh about same, but they sure don't cost the same to build." -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ | said by Draiman:Here's a great quote I ran into during this project.
"Pricing a house/addition by the square foot is like pricing a car by the pound. A Ford and a Mercedes probably weigh about same, but they sure don't cost the same to build." unfortunately, real estate costs are based on SF and # of rooms more than anything else. -- * seek help if having trouble coping --Standard disclaimers apply.-- |
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1 edit | reply to Draiman All said and done the cost will be around $80,000. It will add around 625 sq. ft. to the GLA of the house. A garage bay is worth $5,000 to $7,000 per the appraisal. The sale price per sq. ft. is about $125 here right now so the new area will be worth around $78,125 then add $10,000 for the 2 garage bays and it should be worth $88,125 this year. As the property values go up it will increase in value. The build price would be $80,000 minus $10,000 for the 2 garage bays then $70,000 divided by 625 or $112/sq. ft. for the new GLA.
From a raw sq. ft. point it's a 27' x 28' 2-story so that's 1,512 sq. ft. for the new structure or $52.91/sq. ft. for build cost. Really 280 sq. ft. of that is attic so only 1,232 is use able space which would make the price $64.94/sq. ft. for usable space. The average price to build in 2012 was $79.67/sq. ft. per the National Association of Home Builders for some perspective. -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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| reply to Draiman I saved somewhere in the $10,000 ballpark on the project. The contractor I used was about $20,000 under the others as well so the garage should have been a loss to build for a long time but because I played my cards right it will stay in the black.  -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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| reply to stev32k said by stev32k:That's pretty amazing. I knew the building costs were higher, but didn't realize they were that much higher. My brother-in-law just had a 3-car, 30' X 35' garage built. It is brick veneer, finished inside, but not insulated and does not have storage space above. His total cost was a little under $35,000 or about $33/ sq ft. Sooooo many factors go into new construction you can't compare them without it all. Foundation is a huge one. Most people can just have a slab poured and the foundation might run $3,000-5,000. Others like myself have a major slope to deal with so that same foundation is $25,000. Most people just use OSB sheathing and 2x4 framing but I used plywood and 2x6. A normal unconditioned garage might only need cheap windows but mine has energy star rated windows. With no room above the garage you don't need a firewall, stairs, etc. either. Different towns/states have different requirements on building. Most don't need a certified plot plan but mine did so add $1,500 right there. Most don't need a engineering stamp either so add another $1,500 there. Mine had demo costs to remove the old garage and dispose of the waste for $3,200. A new garage doesn't have that. My garage has 2 fire doors and 2 external doors. Most garages don't have that either. My garage has a 60amp subpanel and again most garages don't have that either. It's hard to compare your brother-in-law's garage to anyone else's without all the info.  -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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 stev32kPremium join:2000-04-27 Mobile, AL kudos:1 | You are right that construction costs cannot be compared except on an apples to apples basis. And it appears you have much more than just a place to keep your cars out of the weather and store the lawn mower. |
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| reply to Draiman Does anyone know about a garage exhaust system? I was looking at something like this. »burcam.com/files/Web/Instruction···0350.pdf
That would help the humidity as well as remove carbon monoxide. The other option is just get a cheap wall fan and leave it on low 24/7/365. »www.amazon.com/Broan-512M-6-Inch···l+garage -- IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes! |
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 DraimanLet me see those devil horns in the sky join:2012-06-01 Kill Devil Hills, NC | reply to Draiman Wow no one knows anything about garage exhaust fans? |
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 Coma Thanks StevePremium join:2001-12-30 NirvanaLand | said by Draiman:Wow no one knows anything about garage exhaust fans? In another life when I worked as an auto tech in a small shop, we would just use a flexible hose, one end of which was shoved on the exhaust while the other end was put through a hole in the overhead door. It was cheap & reliable.
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