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Critsmcgee

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Re: Garage addition

That's the condo association not code. I used adhesive when I put up some drywall ceilings but I did it for sound proofing. You use this green sound proofing adhesive then put it all over the drywall and attach a second piece of drywall.

»www.greengluecompany.com/


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egg crates are better and more pleasing to the eye.


Critsmcgee

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said by AVD:

egg crates are better and more pleasing to the eye.

Not to the wife or to resale value though.


Draiman
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The first drywall quote came in at $3,000 and I estimated it will cost me $1,000 to do it myself in materials. Not sure what way I want to go. I guess maybe a second quote first to see what the ballpark is on price.
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stev32k
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I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?


Critsmcgee

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said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

You're not thinking 3D. The ceiling is around 500 sq. ft. by itself. Add the walls, stairs, hallway, etc. and I bet it's more like 2,000 sq. ft. worth of drywall. That puts it around $1.50/sq. ft. which is about average.


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said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!


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said by Msradell:

said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!

I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense.
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said by natedj:

said by Msradell:

said by stev32k:

I just looked at this thread and am I right that the total square footage is about 787 and the price is about $74/sq ft?

$3000/747=$74? You need schooling!

I think he's referring to the cost to build the entire garage and not the drywall work .... at least that's the only way his math makes sense.

Yes, I was referring to the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE.


Draiman
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said by stev32k:

Yes, I was referring the the total cost of the garage. If I read the overall dimensions correctly on the drawing in the first post it said the garage is 27'-2" X 28'-2" (or 23' not sure) the total area under roof is about 787 Sq feet and the total cost $59,000. That makes it $74/sq ft. That seems kind of high even considering there are two floors. But maybe building costs are that much higher in the NE.

The Boston area is about 200% higher cost of living then Mobile, AL so if $50/sq. ft. is average in your area then $150/sq. ft. is the same here. Typically new construction runs around $150/sq. ft. here but I cut lots of corners, paid vendors cash for discounts, did some work myself, etc. to get it down as much as I could.
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That's pretty amazing. I knew the building costs were higher, but didn't realize they were that much higher. My brother-in-law just had a 3-car, 30' X 35' garage built. It is brick veneer, finished inside, but not insulated and does not have storage space above. His total cost was a little under $35,000 or about $33/ sq ft.



Draiman
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Here's a great quote I ran into during this project.

"Pricing a house/addition by the square foot is like pricing a car by the pound. A Ford and a Mercedes probably weigh about same, but they sure don't cost the same to build."
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said by Draiman:

Here's a great quote I ran into during this project.

"Pricing a house/addition by the square foot is like pricing a car by the pound. A Ford and a Mercedes probably weigh about same, but they sure don't cost the same to build."

unfortunately, real estate costs are based on SF and # of rooms more than anything else.
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Draiman
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All said and done the cost will be around $80,000. It will add around 625 sq. ft. to the GLA of the house. A garage bay is worth $5,000 to $7,000 per the appraisal. The sale price per sq. ft. is about $125 here right now so the new area will be worth around $78,125 then add $10,000 for the 2 garage bays and it should be worth $88,125 this year. As the property values go up it will increase in value. The build price would be $80,000 minus $10,000 for the 2 garage bays then $70,000 divided by 625 or $112/sq. ft. for the new GLA.

From a raw sq. ft. point it's a 27' x 28' 2-story so that's 1,512 sq. ft. for the new structure or $52.91/sq. ft. for build cost. Really 280 sq. ft. of that is attic so only 1,232 is use able space which would make the price $64.94/sq. ft. for usable space. The average price to build in 2012 was $79.67/sq. ft. per the National Association of Home Builders for some perspective.
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Draiman
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I saved somewhere in the $10,000 ballpark on the project. The contractor I used was about $20,000 under the others as well so the garage should have been a loss to build for a long time but because I played my cards right it will stay in the black.
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Draiman
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said by stev32k:

That's pretty amazing. I knew the building costs were higher, but didn't realize they were that much higher. My brother-in-law just had a 3-car, 30' X 35' garage built. It is brick veneer, finished inside, but not insulated and does not have storage space above. His total cost was a little under $35,000 or about $33/ sq ft.

Sooooo many factors go into new construction you can't compare them without it all. Foundation is a huge one. Most people can just have a slab poured and the foundation might run $3,000-5,000. Others like myself have a major slope to deal with so that same foundation is $25,000. Most people just use OSB sheathing and 2x4 framing but I used plywood and 2x6. A normal unconditioned garage might only need cheap windows but mine has energy star rated windows. With no room above the garage you don't need a firewall, stairs, etc. either. Different towns/states have different requirements on building. Most don't need a certified plot plan but mine did so add $1,500 right there. Most don't need a engineering stamp either so add another $1,500 there. Mine had demo costs to remove the old garage and dispose of the waste for $3,200. A new garage doesn't have that. My garage has 2 fire doors and 2 external doors. Most garages don't have that either. My garage has a 60amp subpanel and again most garages don't have that either. It's hard to compare your brother-in-law's garage to anyone else's without all the info.
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stev32k
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You are right that construction costs cannot be compared except on an apples to apples basis. And it appears you have much more than just a place to keep your cars out of the weather and store the lawn mower.



Draiman
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Does anyone know about a garage exhaust system? I was looking at something like this.
»burcam.com/files/Web/Instruction···0350.pdf

That would help the humidity as well as remove carbon monoxide. The other option is just get a cheap wall fan and leave it on low 24/7/365.
»www.amazon.com/Broan-512M-6-Inch···l+garage
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Draiman
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Wow no one knows anything about garage exhaust fans?



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said by Draiman:

Wow no one knows anything about garage exhaust fans?


In another life when I worked as an auto tech in a small shop, we would just use a flexible hose, one end of which was shoved on the exhaust while the other end was put through a hole in the overhead door. It was cheap & reliable.

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