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Sudbury ON - FibreOP FTTH - job fair Thursday 6pm

Drop down the city list @ Fibreop.ca and you'll see where its going to be.

Field Service Reps aka Door to Door Sales Reps. Tough position to be in these days, but lots of profit in it if you can sell.

The dropdown list is far from conclusive imho, since it contains every generalized area in the area. While that's a starting place it does not tell us whether, for example, the donovan is considered part of downtown. There's also the question of when they'll start offering the service - they could be lining up salespeople a year in advance.

I was hoping to make it to the session myself just to see what I could find out, but I won't be able to. =\

reply to avenison
As far as the "Old City of Sudbury" is concerned...I believe all of the bases are covered, Downtown Sudbury covers that area I believe as there is no CO for the Donovan specifically and that its all fed from downtown @ 200 Brady for that area, as well as a CO on Rockwood for the South end, and a CO on Lasalle that covers new Sudbury...

So, at some point they'll get to your area...but who knows when...but I'm sure they'll be covering the whole area.

If the roll out is anything like we have in Atlantic Canada, you'll see these boxes popping up.

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FibreOp will be offered very soon after once you see that box.
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reply to habskilla
Thanks for the pic habskilla. Any idea what's in the box? It appears there's only one line (or group of lines) coming down into it from the pole, and one line/group coming out the bottom.

@nitzguy, that's why I wondered. If they're really planning to do the entire area then there are plenty of ways they could "wire" it. They could use the existing COs as a starting point, but they could just as well lay all of it from the Brady St building. Getting back to the list, it did occur to me that it could be divided by CO, but based on the entries for the Valley that may not be the case. Val Caron does have it's own CO (1741 Main W), but afaik Val Therese and Hanmer (which are separate in the dropdown list) are both served from the Hanmer CO at 4522 Dennie. There is however an unsigned building on Jeanne D'arc (»maps.google.ca/maps?q=46.646052,···33760679) which may or may not be relevant.

It's a neighbourhood connection box. The wire coming out the bottom is just a ground wire.
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reply to avenison

Here are more FibreOp porn for you

Line splicing. Using the very last step in the process
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My original setup. It has changed quite a bit since this pic
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Here is my pic of of my current setup. The BellAliant router replaced with the terrific Asus RT-N56U
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An example of upload speed
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reply to avenison

reply to avenison
I can explain a little bit about the box that habskilla previously linked to.

Bell Aliant has chosen a cost effective passive fiber deployment. This means that in the field between you and the CO there are no powered devices. The only powered devices are at the central office and your home. The rest is spliced together fiber and equipment which allows fiber to be 'split' to multiple homes.

This is in contrast to VDSL deployments where remotes have to have power and much smarter equipment to do things. In the end it's more cost effective.

The box linked is where this 'splitting' occurs. Fiber from the central office comes in, fiber from homes comes in, and the two are connected. It actually looks like an ethernet patch panel inside, except with fiber.

What are the disadvantages of that topology? How many endpoints can each line out from the CO handle, and how does that affect latency?

I'm pretty interested to see what Vianet will be doing in response to this. Their 30/5 package seems pretty inline with 25/7 DSL (if it was available), but the only synchronous plan they have is 25/25, for $83/mo before taxes, etc. If B-A can do what they're doing in the Maritimes (mostly synchronous rates, no caps, reasonable prices) they will surely have to raise the stakes.

The number of houses sharing the fiber depends on the deployment, 16 or 32 being the most common (of course that is just the limit, you could have less). Latency isn't affected, fiber is f-a-s-t. My ping to the gateway at Bell Aliant is 1ms.

As for disadvantages you are sharing the bandwidth available on the fiber with other people. The control is tighter than cable though, with the amount you are allocated changing every few milliseconds. Bandwidth can also be guaranteed for phone and TV.

reply to avenison
If you check fibreop.ca they've updated the website for Greater Sudbury, so I'm figuring the rollout is coming fast and furious...they also have a large billboard setup at Barrydowne and Westmount that advertises it...

They're advertising 15/15 for a promo price of $99.95 (includes TV and phone and $119.95 after the promo) and 30/30 with some more tv channels for $149.95 after promo (all $99.95 for the promo price)..

They're going to look at destroying vianet and making a run at Eastlink in the city....I sure hope they come to my area too!...so I can dump my almost 16/1 crap connection.

What about people who just want the internet?

I hope they aren't gonna make it a mandatory bundle like they do with FibeTV where you must subscribe to their internet as well.

If you want just internet you can have just internet. If you want just TV you can have just TV. They'll work with you to get what you want.

reply to nitzguy
Yeah, I also heard a radio advertisement the other daysaying to visit the website.

Looking at the updates they've basically duplicated the pages from the maritime sites, although the packages are listed with fancy graphics now instead of an HTML table. No info on separate services, so no confirmation if they'll be offering 70/30 here (my ST516 is glaring daggers at me), but at least they have the bundle prices up. Interestingly, these are slightly cheaper than out east - the post-intro/get-you-to-sign-a-contract prices for "Good, Better, Best" packages are $16, $6, and $6 less. While at first glance that seems like a perk, it makes me wonder how much their profits are - considering that the varying coastal weather must raise upkeep costs way above say, our drunk drivers hitting the poles. Or one would hope...

The FAQ had me expecting a trollface to pop up. Some things that stood out:

1. Digs at Persona and whoever is selling their services: "[...] FibreOP delivers the only Internet that lets you Upload a 250 MB video in 1 minute - The cable company can’t come close to that upload speed."

2. No charge for installation. What? For real? We are clearly dealing with a different Bell.

3. Whose is bigger: boasting speeds they don't currently offer (or at least don't advertise): "Customers can access download speeds of up to 250Mbps and upload speeds of 30 Mbps [...]". Wait, why would the fastest upload speed be 30Mbps? Not that I'm complaining, but is there a technical reason? We're not talking about ADSL anymore here...

4. Apparently Bell Canada forgot to mention some things to Bell Aliant, otherwise I'm guessing this wouldn't have made it into the page:
" Q: The cable companies say they have 'fibre' too? Is that true?"
" A: The cable company’s fibre stops somewhere in your neighborhood. Then the signal converts into regular cable from there into your home. So the FibreOP network is actually connected right into your home, while the cable company is not."

Oh no! There are companies misrepresenting Fibe?! I mean, fibre? No wait, hmm. Nevermind.

5. Next item:
" Q: Is FibreOP really that much better than other alternatives?"
" A: FibreOP is a 100% fibre optic network that connects straight to your home so everything works faster, easier and better. Cable is not connected straight to your home so you share your network."

There are at least 3 things wrong here, but I'm sure this post is already too long. They say a Free Wireless Modem is included, does anyone know what the hardware is? Are they accessible by the user? Can I install Tomato on it?

I can answer a few of your questions/thoughts.

1. The website doesn't show you every possible combination you can get FibreOP services, you have to call for that.

2. If you go on a one year contract there is no charge for installation. If you don't I think it's $149.95. This is actually a bargain in my opinion because installing FibreOP can take anywhere from 4 hours to an entire day. Or two worst case.

3. There is no technical reason they can't increase the upload speed beyond 30Mbps. That is just what they have decided from a competitive perspective.

4. The included router (which has built-in wireless) is the Actiontec R1000H. It runs Linux but you can't build a custom firmware image and you can't install Tomato. If you want to replace this with a different device and have only internet it is easy if the new device supports VLANs. If you have TV service it becomes much more complicated. I have created custom firmware for the Asus RT-N56U which makes it a drop-in replacement and works perfectly.

reply to avenison
Hello fellow Sudburians,

I work for Bell and will bring you all up to speed! Garson and New Sudbury are being rolled out first, July 5th is the target date. The work is being done by a contractor, VistaCare, out of Nova Scotia. Garson has been completely wired, and New Sudbury is being aggressively worked on to meet the target date. Behind A&W the main splices are being done as I type, and the fibre lines are being strung along Woodbine/Holland and all the connecting side roads. The entire length of Lasalle from Barrydowne to Notredame, both side, is being completed, followed by the other side from Barrydowne to Falconbridge. The Valley and Chelmsford are also in the works right now, but aren't going to be completed until August. Only two retailers, the Bell store in the mall and the Lefebvre store on the corner of lasalle@notredame will be selling the product, and the 1800 number of coarse.

It is a very exciting product, and Sudbury is the only city west of Quebec that has a FTTH network this extensive, very fortunate. Whether you are a Eastlink fan or a Bell fan, the heated competition in Sudbury is excellent for the consumer as we are able to access some of the best broadband services in the entire continent.

Feel free to ask me any questions, I will try my best to help!

Cheers