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Re: Sudbury ON - FibreOP FTTH - job fair Thursday 6pm He meant they won't sell internet on its own, and there's no point running fibre just to replace POTS. The options are triple play or nothing.
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That's disappointing, particularily since the FibreOP site is (or at least was) frequently linking to the Bell Aliant site, which shows all the options - including those we apparently won't have access to for months. 
said by BliZZardX:there's no point running fibre just to replace POTS. If VDSL was available I might agree with you, but on the other hand if there was a 5/768k fibre tier I would still switch. The decrease in latency would more than justify it for me.
said by BliZZardX:The Bell options are triple play or nothing. FTFY. I sympathize with FibreOP's rollout problems, but there's a vast difference between being unable to provide service to a potential customer, and choosing not to on the grounds that the customer only needs one of several services on offer. My subscription to an Internet-only service would still contribute to their bottom line, and it should be fair to assume they have sufficient capacity that it would not preclude someone else (who might want the whole package) from subscribing as well. Bell currently gets a large cut of my DSL subscription fees as well as the ridiculous amount I pay them for a landline - money they could continue to receive - if they're the first in line to offer me what I actually need. |
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| said by avenison:That's disappointing, particularily since the FibreOP site is (or at least was) frequently linking to the Bell Aliant site, which shows all the options - including those we apparently won't have access to for months.
Trust me this has been brought up and talked about and will continue to be talked about till it happens.
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PS - If anyone wants to know when a specific area is supposed to be due to be lit up, please PM me. I can give you an approximate timeline and NO guarantees! Haha. |
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 nitzguyPremium
join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
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| reply to avenison
I received something in the mail last week to the effect that it will be available in my area....when I go to the website it says my address isn't valid....again probably to do with multiple street names in different parts of Sudbury....that were not resolved...unfortunately.
I'll scan it in when I get a chance to and post it here...I forgot to bring it to work tonight...
Other than that I'm excited, I'd be happy to pay $99/month even since I pay $85/month now and get 15/1 DSL and Home phone with Call Display....an extra $30/mth for tv? I'm in. |
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| That'll be around 149.95 for the better 50/30 after 3 months. Just don't forget that  |
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| reply to Savillian
I dunno maybe I'm just not a marketing guy (trying to get as many full bundles locked in as possible) in the initial push, but pushing this group (ones that only want some part of pkg) aside (and its so technically easy to do) just tends to piss us off a bit more and think twice even when you do. |
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 HiVoltPremium
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Toronto, ON
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| reply to nitzguy
Bell's FibeTV isn't selling as much as it could because they force bundle it with internet, which a lot of people dont want Bell's low capped shit...
I would consider it, as the TV quality is a LOT better than Rogers Cable, but not when i have to pay for their sub-par internet
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nitzguyPremium
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| reply to Riplin
said by Riplin:That'll be around 149.95 for the better 50/30 after 3 months. Just don't forget that
Oh crap, I looked at good, which would have given me 20/15 and its $109.95 After the promo...I thought it used to be $99.95 after the promo which I would have been fine with....
50/30 sounds nice though.....funny thing is there's no cap on usage with 50/30, but funny there is with 80/30 and 250/30....I think it has to do with Eastlink playing the same game in town so they're just matching on that aspect.... |
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| Yep the whole follow the leader let's not distinguish ourselves from the competition doesn't really bode well for them imo. |
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| reply to HiVolt
HiVolt, the internet offered with the TV package is an uncapped 50/30 Mbps connection.
How is that shabby?
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| reply to habskilla
I think HiVolt was making a general statement for the other 99% territory Bell covers
With the parent company, you can't subscribe to Fibe TV without also subscribing to Fibe internet (max 300GB if you have real fiber, 125GB for everyone else on DSL) and signing a 2 year contract for both
Aliant seem to be borrowing these tactics for their launch in Sudbury |
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said by habskilla:HiVolt, the internet offered with the TV package is an uncapped 50/30 Mbps connection.
How is that shabby?
Not here in Toronto... and we dont have the FTTH you guys have there... just VDSL based FibeTV.
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| That is true, but this thread is about BellAliant FTTH offering in Sudbury. I just don't people reading this thread and think the bundled internet is capped.
That being said, if you upgrade the bundled internet to 80/30, that level is capped.
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lexcyn
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Val Therese, ON | reply to JohnB
I've noticed in the past couple of weeks more trucks running Fibre on new poles in Valley East (Val Caron, Hanmer). Is this Bell FTTH or someone else? |
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| reply to avenison
Well my parents have pulled the trigger with FibreOp, they get installed on the 10th, I will let everyone here know how it went. |
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| reply to avenison
Some areas In Toronto have proper FTTH but not many most are as u say hivolt VDSL served areas bright side? New speeds soon i hear!
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| reply to Riplin
So anyway, shortly after my last post I found out Vianet already has my street lit up, so I have made the switch. Sorry Bell. I also did some networking for my friends using FibreOp, so I can present to you the following brief comparison. Both services are a GPON-based (passive) fibre deployment. This means the layout is more similar to cable than DSL, in that their equipment (equivalent of DSLAM) sends and receives multiple subscribers' data down the same fibre, which eventually runs through an optical splitter and into X houses. Upload capacity is shared via TDMA, i.e. your-turn/my-turn/his-turn/etc., and is allotted based on demand and QOS rating. Both providers appear to be using VLANs to separate internet/voip/tv services as well as providing QOS for them. No idea if you can request higher priority for your own VOIP packets by tagging them or if that only works when the destination is the provider's server... I guess theoretically if it did work you could abuse it by making all of your traffic higher priority than your neighbours', but it's an interesting possibility. Likewise it would be nice to know if you can get basic TV channels without renting a box by setting up a device on a particular VLAN. Hardware: Vianet provides the Zhone model GPON-2424-NA modem, which has no wireless and no battery backup. I haven't logged in to poke around yet (supposedly it is locked?) but I have read some of the manual and it is pretty heavy material. Bell Aliant is using the Actiontec R1000H, which does have integrated wireless but does not support IPv6. The current firmware version is very oddly laid-out - reminiscent of Thomson's Speedtouch modems, actually. Firmware seems to be developed on a custom basis and is therefore distributed only to the relevant provider (Bell's current version is apparently 33.00L.28) and there is no obvious way to upgrade it even if you had a file to flash. One nice feature is that if you don't know the username and password for the configuration pages, you can reset them by entering the unit's serial number - which hopefully is not visible from the network! Note that uPNP is disabled by default, so if you require any port forwarding you must log in. Strangely, the internal DHCP server does not support assigning specific IPs by MAC. If you prefer to manually forward ports instead of using uPNP, you will need to set each device to use a static IP outside of the modem's DHCP pool (which by default is 192.168.x.10-192.168.x.254) to prevent it from being assigned to a second device. This is not difficult, but of course if it's a mobile device and you bring it to another network, you'll probably need to remove the setting to get connected. More info on the modem is available at: » www.actiontec.com/products/produ···?pid=212» screenshots.portforward.com/rout···ault.htm» forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox···793.aspx (requires a Microsoft login) |
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| Thanks for the elaborate post avenison, but you're teasing leaving out the goods! Post some vianet speedtests for us haha
Looks like they have some good connectivity, even with Bell. So you can play with your neighbour on Bell FTTH across town and it'll be like you're both in the same room »bgp.he.net/AS7091#_peers |
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