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beavercable
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join:2008-05-11
Beaverton, OR

Sue first and get a partner.

If only Sprint would have been the one to sue Comcast over Voip patents they would be the one with this arrangement.



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

Sprint wouldn't sue CC because they were, at the time, a "contributor" to their WiMAX boondoggle. SO, they didn't want to bite the hand that was feeding them. However, hindsight is 20/20. Your right, they should have sued their pants off. And Sprint should be afraid. They depend way too much on the likes of VZ, ATT and some other backhall providers for access to it's cells. But, they have more worries about money then they are letting own. Just wait till the contract expires with Ericsson's network services. I'm sure they will have Sprint over a barrel as they not only took over the network maintenance, they also got ALL of Sprints talent to boot. It's gonna cost Sprint to buy their way out of this one.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
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Keep in mind that Sprint could go to another network solutions provider after the Ericsson contract expires. Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung are both helping Sprint rebuild its new network,s o if Ericsson offers Sprint a raw deal after the contract expires they could just pick one of the other two, or even somoene like Nokia Siemens Networks (who is helping with the T-Mobile network modernization).



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

said by iansltx:

Keep in mind that Sprint could go to another network solutions provider after the Ericsson contract expires. Alcatel-Lucent and Samsung are both helping Sprint rebuild its new network,s o if Ericsson offers Sprint a raw deal after the contract expires they could just pick one of the other two, or even somoene like Nokia Siemens Networks (who is helping with the T-Mobile network modernization).

That sounds good but.... Ericsson has been laying off some of it's talent. Funny you mention Samsung. One of, what I consider, one of Sprints TOP switch tech was shown the door in March of this year. He turned around and was scooped up by Samsung. He now flies all over to Sprint switch sites and is setting up Samsung LTE equipment. Most of us wished like hell the FCC was going to make Sprint let the LD division go with Sprint local when they took stake in Nextel. But Sprint local (now known as Century-link) went off on their own. Leaving the rest of the landline side to be sucked up (and sucked dry) by the wireless division.

iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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What's so bad about a wireless provider having their own nationwide backbone/long distance system? If I remember correctly, wasn't Sprint the first to offer a cellular plan with no long distance charges?



tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

said by iansltx:

What's so bad about a wireless provider having their own nationwide backbone/long distance system? If I remember correctly, wasn't Sprint the first to offer a cellular plan with no long distance charges?

What was wrong with a long distance provider having it's own wireless division? Oh wait, Sprint did. They were a LD and local land line provider before they scooped up PCS. Then, Sprint PCS was always in the red till access to Sprints backbone was provided, then more access charges to the LD side were seen to get that last mile to the cell site, whereas, less charges for PCS. It really didn't balance out. Wireless pretty much took over the show and started causing LD to bleed off profits due to write offs to providing access to it's own Wireless division. It wasn't just one big happy company. When everything "merged" in like early 2000's, we started seeing less money being spent on that "backbone". Don't kid yourself. That back bone is being held together on a shoestring budget and the money is getting even tighter.

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I'm aware...SprintLink in some cases relies on direct-buried fiber (so old-fashioned). This is why Sprint has pretty much stopped trying to sell connections to its backbone (at least aggressively), focusing on higher-margin wireless services. Which is fine, because backbone access (unless you're at a location few or no other backbone providers reach without a tail circuit) is an intensely competitive market, between Level3, Cogent, XO, Hurricane Electric, Highwinds, etc.

The competitive environment is why T-Mobile doesn't have its own national backbone...it's cheaper just to pick up Level3, AT&T or whoever at each of their major switch centers (Dallas, Denver, Orlando, Charlotte, etc.). Heck, Verizon, who owns alter.net, still opts for other Internet egress paths in some markets (e.g. in Denver they're all Level3 last time I did a traceroute on my LTE iPad, whereas in Atlanta and DFW they use alter.net though things tend to get peered off pretty quickly).