Marketing hype

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lijacobs join:2010-07-30 Lawrence, NY kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS 1 edit	Marketing hype As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. However, many of the readers of DSLR are among the 00.01 and 00.001 percent who do. For the rest, these new speeds are pure marketing and a lame excuse for a rate increase.
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rebus9 join:2002-03-26 Tampa Bay Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS ·Bright House	said by lijacobs: As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. Today. But what about tomorrow? I remember when a 1200 baud modem cost over a thousand bucks. Us poor college students had to make due on a 300 baud modem, to connect to the campus mainframe from our apartment to do our assignments so we didn't have to wait our turn (sometimes a 2+ hour wait) at the campus computer lab. I remember people saying 9600 baud modems were a huge waste of money over 2400 baud. Then they said 28.8 dialup modems were a gimmick. Then they said the same thing about 56k modems. My first real (non-Prodigy) ISP account was with a local provider that had a kiosk PC in their lobby and invited their subscribers to come in and experience surfing on "our full T-1"... and it was too fast to believe. Web pages appeared almost instantly. My first DSL line at 768k/128k (for the low price of $65) was marketed as a blisteringly fast always-on connection. And 10 Mbps. Not so very long ago that was LAN speed, and nobody but the largest commercial customers could afford a WAN link that fast. Then FIOS gave us 20/5. Imagine, a full 5 Mbps upstream. Now we're turning our noses up at 25/25, and 150 Mbps downstream is less than $100. Years ago I said Gig-E to the home was going to be commonplace by 2020. So far that prediction is looking good.
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somms join:2003-07-28 Salt Lake City, UT	said by rebus9: said by lijacobs: As of today 99.99 percent of FiOS users don't need more than 25/25 Mb/s speed and 99.999 percent don't need more than 35/35. Today. But what about tomorrow? I remember when a 1200 baud modem cost over a thousand bucks. Us poor college students had to make due on a 300 baud modem, to connect to the campus mainframe from our apartment to do our assignments so we didn't have to wait our turn (sometimes a 2+ hour wait) at the campus computer lab. I remember people saying 9600 baud modems were a huge waste of money over 2400 baud. Then they said 28.8 dialup modems were a gimmick. Then they said the same thing about 56k modems. My first real (non-Prodigy) ISP account was with a local provider that had a kiosk PC in their lobby and invited their subscribers to come in and experience surfing on "our full T-1"... and it was too fast to believe. Web pages appeared almost instantly. My first DSL line at 768k/128k (for the low price of $65) was marketed as a blisteringly fast always-on connection. And 10 Mbps. Not so very long ago that was LAN speed, and nobody but the largest commercial customers could afford a WAN link that fast. Then FIOS gave us 20/5. Imagine, a full 5 Mbps upstream. Now we're turning our noses up at 25/25, and 150 Mbps downstream is less than $100. Years ago I said Gig-E to the home was going to be commonplace by 2020. So far that prediction is looking good. Good points! 1Gbps just became avail in my neighboorhood. At this point, 100Mbps is much more practical and cheaper thru my ISP at $45/month. Maybe later this year when Google's 1Gbps launches the price for full 1Gbps symmetrical FTTH service may drop or one can only hope!
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hyphenated @bellsouth.net	reply to rebus9 +1 Ip 6 is also coming and its going to go wild.
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lijacobs join:2010-07-30 Lawrence, NY kudos:1 Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to rebus9 All of your history not withstanding, IMHO it will be at least a few years before the vast majority of users will need the higher speeds. In the meantime at contract renewal time costs will go up and now VZ has bragging rights in their Ads. It's all marketing and money.
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rebus9 join:2002-03-26 Tampa Bay Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS ·Bright House	said by lijacobs: All of your history not withstanding, IMHO it will be at least a few years before the vast majority of users will need the higher speeds. In the meantime at contract renewal time costs will go up and now VZ has bragging rights in their Ads. It's all marketing and money. With streaming video and next generation HD on the way, video calls, enhanced gaming experiences, etc., and everyone in the house using it simultaneously, it won't be long before 25-50 Mbps is considered low-end, and 50-100 Mbps considered mid-range. Not so long ago I posted in one of the DSL forums that I temporarily switched my PC off my FIOS line and onto my backup 10/1 Road Runner connection, but forgot to switch it back. I didn't even notice until I went to upload something for $DAYJOB and banged my head into the 1 Mbps upload ceiling. The moral of that story was I didn't notice I was on 10 Mbps down instead of 25 Mbps. Well, that's changed recently. With websites and other content becoming more byte-heavy, the 10 Mbps connection feels sluggish to me now. The 25 Mbps I get with FIOS is the minimum I would even consider now as my everyday speed. I expect that as content continues to get "heavier", I'll start grumbling about the slowness of 25 Mbps and will pony up for the 50 or 75 Mbps tier.
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