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DarkLogix
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Baytown, TX
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reply to Steve

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

said by Steve:

It's not called hydro because they get electricity from water, it's because the *utility* has Hydro in the name. It would be like us talking about an Edison bill.

And do we call it an edison (or more properly Tesela) bill? no because that'd be silly.


jrs8084
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reply to nunya

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

And I am sure the POCO would have a below the line charge for the extra toner required to print all those extra digits
Expand your moderator at work


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to Steve

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

said by Steve:

It's not called hydro because they get electricity from water, it's because the *utility* has Hydro in the name. It would be like us talking about an Edison bill.

Why do you think a lot of power companies have hydro in their name?

Your logic is that we say "gas bill" because our gas company has gas in the name.

Or that we say "bank account" because the corporation we use for our account has "bank" in its name


Paolo
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canada
reply to jrs8084

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

u guys don't call it hydro in the states? didn't know that? don't u also get electricity from um Niagra Falls as well?
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Oedipus

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said by Paolo:

u guys don't call it hydro in the states? didn't know that? don't u also get electricity from um Niagra Falls as well?

Yes, Texas gets most of their electricity from Niagara Falls.


Paolo
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nice.


OmenQ
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Continuum
reply to Paolo
Texas is on a separate grid from the rest of the USA. We generate and consume our own electricity. We also use more than any other state, and produce it by and large with home-grown resources. Our rates are low too, I pay about 9-10 cents/kwh, and we pay less than that at work.

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CptGemini
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aannoonn

@optonline.net
reply to Paolo
said by Paolo:

u guys don't call it hydro in the states?

No.
said by Paolo:

don't u also get electricity from um Niagra Falls as well?

No.

40% Nuclear
35% Coal
17% Gas
3% Oil
3% Solid Waste
1% Wind

So Nuclear, Coal, and Gas amounts to 91%. And down in the noise, we have:

0.13% Wood/Biomass
0.07% Large Hydro (that's 0.07%, NOT 7%)
0.05% Small Hydro
0.05% Solar

Source - »www.firstenergycorp.com/content/···1111.pdf

Oedipus

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reply to Paolo
"Got my nuclear bill today, and I practically had a meltdown!"


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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said by Oedipus:

"Got my nuclear bill today, and I practically had a meltdown!"

Ok that made me choke on laugher while my wife was watching her soaps. Even after I explained to her, she doesn't get it.

Women....

said by OmenQ:

Texas is on a separate grid from the rest of the USA. We generate and consume our own electricity. We also use more than any other state, and produce it by and large with home-grown resources. Our rates are low too, I pay about 9-10 cents/kwh, and we pay less than that at work.

5.36 cents a kilowatt here in Quebec. All Hydroelectricity.
/nose-up-snob


aannoonn

@optonline.net
At least we don't have a 15% sales tax on everything.


whizkid3
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reply to Paolo
said by Paolo:

Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

$1.3 million!

Holy Jeez. What was she doing with all that water? Did she have a leak in her main?

said by Paolo:

u guys don't call it hydro in the states? didn't know that

Sure you did. One can easily go back and see your repeated posts about the very same subject; where using the word hydro for electricity, apparently gets you excited. It goes on for at least 10 pages, if not 100:

»/nsearch?q=hyd···55145816

You have been told by now, by likely dozens of people, that you live in one of the few places in the world, (or the only place in the world), where people commonly - but mistakenly - call electricity 'hydro'. In fact, the only real reason you posted here, is so you could throw around the word 'hydro'.

Honestly, if I had my way, the mods would lock this.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to aannoonn
said by aannoonn :

At least we don't have a 15% sales tax on everything.

That's low! That was really really low!
And food with 6+ servings has no sales tax! Except our alcohol, which has a 300% sales tax, but that's only because they prefer that we eat more.

moes

join:2009-11-15
Cedar City, UT
reply to Paolo
I was in canada a few years ago and was talking to a buddy and called it electric and I thought he'd have a melt down on the spot heh, seems to him at least it's a taboo word that should not be used.

cjski
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Sun City, CA
reply to Oedipus
said by Oedipus:

"Got my nuclear bill today, and I practically had a meltdown!"

Still LOL'ing...


mattmag
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NW Illinois
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reply to whizkid3
said by whizkid3:

said by Paolo:

u guys don't call it hydro in the states? didn't know that

Sure you did. One can easily go back and see your repeated posts about the very same subject; where using the word hydro for electricity, apparently gets you excited. It goes on for at least 10 pages, if not 100:

My *EXACT* thoughts as well.

Beezel

join:2008-12-15
Las Vegas, NV
reply to Paolo
So then since I am in Las Vegas, I have a Hydro, coal, gas, and solar bill?

No wonder ours is called Nevada Energy.


djrobx
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reply to DarkLogix

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

And do we call it an edison (or more properly Tesela) bill? no because that'd be silly.

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob
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Jack_in_VA
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said by djrobx:

And do we call it an edison (or more properly Tesela) bill? no because that'd be silly.

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob

Same here in Virginia. It formally was "VEPCO" bill now it's "DOMINION" bill. It's rarely ever referred to as electric bill. So what's the big deal of calling it HYDRO? IMO it's Just something to gang up on him for?


Cho Baka
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Do you refer to the commodity as VEPCO?

Imagine the following exclamation:
"Oh no! The VEPCO went out! Now I won't be able to use my VEPCO oven, I'll have to BBQ instead."

Inane, yes.
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Jack_in_VA
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said by Cho Baka:

Do you refer to the commodity as VEPCO?

Imagine the following exclamation:
"Oh no! The VEPCO went out! Now I won't be able to use my VEPCO oven, I'll have to BBQ instead."

Inane, yes.

It would be more like "Oh no! The power went out". Now we can't use the oven. This nit-picking is degenerating to the childish level.
What possible difference does it make to you if we call it hydro or electron usage? You can call it whatever you want and I and others will call it what we want.

Time for the mods to close this nonsense out.


Steve
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said by Jack_in_VA:

What possible difference does it make to you if we call it hydro or electron usage? You can call it whatever you want and I and others will call it what we want.

It's true that these threads all descend into nonsense, but there's a rationale for objecting to "hydro".

Generally speaking, you can refer to a business by its name or its product, and it depends on circumstance which one you use.

If you're in the local service area of the business, where everybody knows who they are, you can use either one: "I got my Hydro bill" or "I got my electric bill" are all the same to your neighbors.

But if you're outside the local service area, where not everybody knows who they are, you're generally more considerate to your audience to refer to them by the product or service.

Yes, people will figure it out eventually by context, but it's simply making it harder to get the message across when you use a name that not everybody knows. It's about respecting your readers by increasing clarity.

If I tell my neighbor "I'm headed to Esther's", he knows exactly what I'm talking about, but if I do that here, you'll have to work a little harder to figure out that I'm headed to the local Mexican restaurant for a beer.

Steve
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Jack_in_VA
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That's true Steve and I tend to agree with you that for clarity the proper name should be used but.....the very ones having an issue are the same ones that's had an issue for the many months that the "Hydro" word has been tossed around on this Home Improvement forum. Every one of us knows what "Hydro" is referring to when our neighbors in Canada use it.

I still believe this thread has degenerated into childish nonsense.


Steve
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said by Jack_in_VA:

Every one of us knows what "Hydro" is referring to when our neighbors in Canada use it.

No, that's not true.

Sure, the regulars all know this (I certainly did), but for everybody who posts, there are dozens of others who are lurkers, or those who find it due to a Google/Bingle search, who won't have all the context that the regulars do, and a lack of clarity makes it harder for them to understand.

Some people write in a forum and it's only about themselves, but those who are most helpful around here (as I am in Security), never address just the OP or the post we're replying to, but to the wider readership.

Steve
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Jack_in_VA
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Good point Steve.


aannoonn

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reply to Steve
said by Steve:

If I tell my neighbor "I'm headed to Esther's", he knows exactly what I'm talking about, but if I do that here, you'll have to work a little harder to figure out that I'm headed to the local Mexican restaurant for a beer.

We know you really mean »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_And···aracter)

gadgetboyj

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Staten Island, NY
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reply to djrobx
said by djrobx:

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob

Where I am, the electric company is called "Con Edision" and everyone here refers to it as the "ConEd Bill".


Duramax08
To The Moon
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San Antonio, TX
reply to Paolo

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

Did someone leave the water on?