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Jack_in_VA
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reply to djrobx

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

said by djrobx:

And do we call it an edison (or more properly Tesela) bill? no because that'd be silly.

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob

Same here in Virginia. It formally was "VEPCO" bill now it's "DOMINION" bill. It's rarely ever referred to as electric bill. So what's the big deal of calling it HYDRO? IMO it's Just something to gang up on him for?


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Do you refer to the commodity as VEPCO?

Imagine the following exclamation:
"Oh no! The VEPCO went out! Now I won't be able to use my VEPCO oven, I'll have to BBQ instead."

Inane, yes.
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Jack_in_VA
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said by Cho Baka:

Do you refer to the commodity as VEPCO?

Imagine the following exclamation:
"Oh no! The VEPCO went out! Now I won't be able to use my VEPCO oven, I'll have to BBQ instead."

Inane, yes.

It would be more like "Oh no! The power went out". Now we can't use the oven. This nit-picking is degenerating to the childish level.
What possible difference does it make to you if we call it hydro or electron usage? You can call it whatever you want and I and others will call it what we want.

Time for the mods to close this nonsense out.


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said by Jack_in_VA:

What possible difference does it make to you if we call it hydro or electron usage? You can call it whatever you want and I and others will call it what we want.

It's true that these threads all descend into nonsense, but there's a rationale for objecting to "hydro".

Generally speaking, you can refer to a business by its name or its product, and it depends on circumstance which one you use.

If you're in the local service area of the business, where everybody knows who they are, you can use either one: "I got my Hydro bill" or "I got my electric bill" are all the same to your neighbors.

But if you're outside the local service area, where not everybody knows who they are, you're generally more considerate to your audience to refer to them by the product or service.

Yes, people will figure it out eventually by context, but it's simply making it harder to get the message across when you use a name that not everybody knows. It's about respecting your readers by increasing clarity.

If I tell my neighbor "I'm headed to Esther's", he knows exactly what I'm talking about, but if I do that here, you'll have to work a little harder to figure out that I'm headed to the local Mexican restaurant for a beer.

Steve
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Jack_in_VA
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That's true Steve and I tend to agree with you that for clarity the proper name should be used but.....the very ones having an issue are the same ones that's had an issue for the many months that the "Hydro" word has been tossed around on this Home Improvement forum. Every one of us knows what "Hydro" is referring to when our neighbors in Canada use it.

I still believe this thread has degenerated into childish nonsense.



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said by Jack_in_VA:

Every one of us knows what "Hydro" is referring to when our neighbors in Canada use it.

No, that's not true.

Sure, the regulars all know this (I certainly did), but for everybody who posts, there are dozens of others who are lurkers, or those who find it due to a Google/Bingle search, who won't have all the context that the regulars do, and a lack of clarity makes it harder for them to understand.

Some people write in a forum and it's only about themselves, but those who are most helpful around here (as I am in Security), never address just the OP or the post we're replying to, but to the wider readership.

Steve
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Jack_in_VA
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Good point Steve.



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said by Steve:

If I tell my neighbor "I'm headed to Esther's", he knows exactly what I'm talking about, but if I do that here, you'll have to work a little harder to figure out that I'm headed to the local Mexican restaurant for a beer.

We know you really mean »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esther_And···aracter)

gadgetboyj

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said by djrobx:

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob

Where I am, the electric company is called "Con Edision" and everyone here refers to it as the "ConEd Bill".


Duramax08
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reply to Paolo

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

Did someone leave the water on?

Expand your moderator at work


ropeguru
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reply to Paolo

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

NM



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Its only called "hydro" in the center of the universe. Out West, we've the same vernacular as you Americans. We get an electric bill, a gas bill, and a town bill.

Then the bill for extra bandwidth pr0n comes in - that one scares the shit out of me.

I lied, at this time, we don't have any UBB crap like the Easterners do. Its frankly, pretty damned awesome here near the Rockies!



Nick_L
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I'll probably be chastised for asking, but what's a "town" bill? Local taxes? Water and sewer? Road maintenance?



AVD
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reply to DarkLogix

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

As a former con edison customer, it does not sound unusual to pay an edison bill.



AVD
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said by gadgetboyj:

said by djrobx:

Actually Steve's right. We do call it an Edison bill in SoCal (those in Southern California Edison territory anyway).

-- Rob

Where I am, the electric company is called "Con Edision" and everyone here refers to it as the "ConEd Bill".

does it include natural gas?
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reply to Paolo

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

Click for full size
power around here come from

wind
nuclear 1 and 2
nat gas
coal

here is a picture of Arkansas nuclear one. My power company buys power from Arkansas nuclear one.

Total capacity of this plant is 1.776 GW of power.


Paolo
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Then you probaly had a meltdown when you saw your last nuke bill?

Another thoguht for you guys. here the local hydro guys went down to the states during the storms and stuff, and fixed up all the poles and wires down there. The guys said they were very "accepted" by the americans, and instead of asking "what the heck does hydro mean" they were saying "thanks for the help, where are you guys from" and all the trucks had signage on it that said "Toronto Hydro", "Hydro One", "Milton Hydro" , "Oakville Hydro". Apparently they didnt have aproblem with it, only you guys do for some reason? I have no problem if an Edison truck came up here to fix our broken hydro poles and help string new hydro lines, infact i will thank Edison Cons for their helps. and may even interview them on the news
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gadgetboyj

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reply to AVD

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus electric bill

said by AVD:

does it include natural gas?

It doesn't, natural gas is provided by National Grid, formerly Keyspan.


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reply to Paolo

Re: Texas woman hit with $1.3 million-plus hydro bill

Jeez guys this is like arguing over whether it is pop, soda or coke.
It depends on which part of the country you are from.