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Tobester

join:2000-11-14
San Francisco, CA
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·SONIC.NET

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Will this effect Sonic's loop access?

I read on Politico where AT&T is suing to overturn price caps on access charges in San Francisco market.

»www.politico.com/news/stories/06···711.html

My suspicion is they are trying to stop competition (i.e. Sonic) using their copper loop, which was a condition of the breakup of Ma Bell.

Forum user thoughts?



DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9

No, Sonic Telecom (our CLEC subsidary) does not use special access, we use unbundled network elements (loops), "UNE-L". The cost of these components is fixed by the state.



bobrk
You kids get offa my lawn
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join:2000-02-02
San Jose, CA

So no effect on legacy DSL, either?



DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9

said by bobrk:

So no effect on legacy DSL, either?

No, wholesale/resale AT&T DSL is simply a commercial agreement, and is not regulated anymore. It could change or go away at any time.

Tobester

join:2000-11-14
San Francisco, CA
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET

Thanks for clarification Dane.

However your last posting about wholesale/resale AT&T DSL not being regulated and possibly going away brings up another question, if I may?

Does Sonic have their own DSLAMS, or simply resell AT&T DSL?
(My understanding is we are not talking about Sonic Fusion now)

My understanding was under the the breakup of Ma Bell, CLECs offering DSL would have access to in-ground copper at the same loop cost as the Regional Bell carrier.

So this has now changed and customers of Sonic DSL service are at the mercy of AT&T allowing loop access?



DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9

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Sonic.net offers two xDSLxx products:

AT&T line-shared ADSL1, up to 6Mbps, requires an AT&T voice line, and uses AT&T DSLAMs. This is an unregulated product, and wholesale availability to ISPs is by commercial agreement.

Fusion, which is ADSL2+ today, up to 20Mbps (40Mbps with bonding), this is a regulated CLEC product delivered over a regulated UNE-L, using our own DSLAM/MSAP/Voice equipment which is colocated in each central office where we offer service.

-Dane


Tobester

join:2000-11-14
San Francisco, CA

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Thanks Dane.

I'm going to add my KUDOS to your ever expanding list!

As a Sonic customer, I find your input on this forum extremely helpful and demonstrates great leadership.

All the Best,
Tobester.



DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
Premium,VIP
join:2001-08-20
Santa Rosa, CA
kudos:9

Thanks!