 Tobester join:2000-11-14 San Francisco, CA Reviews:
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1 edit | Will this effect Sonic's loop access? I read on Politico where AT&T is suing to overturn price caps on access charges in San Francisco market.
»www.politico.com/news/stories/06···711.html
My suspicion is they are trying to stop competition (i.e. Sonic) using their copper loop, which was a condition of the breakup of Ma Bell.
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:9 | No, Sonic Telecom (our CLEC subsidary) does not use special access, we use unbundled network elements (loops), "UNE-L". The cost of these components is fixed by the state. |
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 bobrkYou kids get offa my lawnPremium join:2000-02-02 San Jose, CA | So no effect on legacy DSL, either? |
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:9 | said by bobrk:So no effect on legacy DSL, either? No, wholesale/resale AT&T DSL is simply a commercial agreement, and is not regulated anymore. It could change or go away at any time. |
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| Thanks for clarification Dane.
However your last posting about wholesale/resale AT&T DSL not being regulated and possibly going away brings up another question, if I may? 
Does Sonic have their own DSLAMS, or simply resell AT&T DSL? (My understanding is we are not talking about Sonic Fusion now)
My understanding was under the the breakup of Ma Bell, CLECs offering DSL would have access to in-ground copper at the same loop cost as the Regional Bell carrier.
So this has now changed and customers of Sonic DSL service are at the mercy of AT&T allowing loop access? |
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:9 | Sonic.net offers two xDSLxx products:
AT&T line-shared ADSL1, up to 6Mbps, requires an AT&T voice line, and uses AT&T DSLAMs. This is an unregulated product, and wholesale availability to ISPs is by commercial agreement.
Fusion, which is ADSL2+ today, up to 20Mbps (40Mbps with bonding), this is a regulated CLEC product delivered over a regulated UNE-L, using our own DSLAM/MSAP/Voice equipment which is colocated in each central office where we offer service.
-Dane |
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 Tobester join:2000-11-14 San Francisco, CA 1 edit | Thanks Dane.
I'm going to add my KUDOS to your ever expanding list!
As a Sonic customer, I find your input on this forum extremely helpful and demonstrates great leadership.
All the Best, Tobester. |
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 DaneJasperSonic.NetPremium,VIP join:2001-08-20 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:9 | Thanks! |
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