Topic '3D TV dying' in forum 'Comcast Cable TV' - dslreports.com

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:41:08 EDT

Comcast Guy posted : Nice!

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:30:58 EDT

telcodad posted : Comcast will be carrying 3D programs from 3net starting next week:

3net Adds Comcast to Affiliate Roster
Service Set to Launch for Xfinity TV Subs on Jan. 28
By Mike Reynolds, Multichannel News - January 23, 2013
»www.multichannel.com/distributio···r/141350

Re: 3D TV dying

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:26:27 EDT

mrschultz02 posted :

said by Kearnstd:

The question comes does 3D actually add anything at all to TV?

I cannot imagine anything TV can match up to say seeing Avatar in IMAX 3D.

Avatar looks amazing in 3D at home. The color and clarity are much better than at the theater (at least better than the IMAX I saw it at). And the 3D looks just as good. That's sitting about 5 feet away from a 46 inch screen and with a good surround sound system.

So it can be great, it's just that most of the content available isn't as good as Avatar. 3D has been generally available for what, 2 years now, and there are still only a handful of really good 3D Blu-Rays. And only one that really matches Avatar for the use of 3D, I'd place Hugo above Avatar because it's a better movie and the 3D is amazing. That pretty much it, there's probably 4 or 5 that are a step below those 2, and 15 or 20 I've watched and been disappointed with.

The really sad thing is the few old movies that have come out look better than a lot of the new stuff. Dial M For Murder looks great in 3D.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:30:36 EDT

gwilliam posted : I think 3D content is better to watch the movie theaters than for home entertainment unless you can afford to have mini movie theater room in your house.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 23 Nov 2012 00:21:06 EDT

AnnaS8 posted :

said by Kearnstd:

The question comes does 3D actually add anything at all to TV?

I cannot imagine anything TV can match up to say seeing Avatar in IMAX 3D.

Well I have yet to see anything in IMAX 3D so I can't compare that unfortunately. I can say that I can't really tell any difference with Avatar in non IMAX 3D. Though I wouldn't call myself a videofile either.

Re: 3D TV dying

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:36:44 EDT

Kearnstd posted : The question comes does 3D actually add anything at all to TV?

I cannot imagine anything TV can match up to say seeing Avatar in IMAX 3D.
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Re: 3D TV dying

Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:07:27 EDT

AnnaS8 posted : The problem is just like when you became working age...Can't get a job without a car and can't get a car without a job.

The lack of content is what is hurting 3D TVs just as the lack of HD content is hurting HDTVs. They act like SD TVs can't play HD content. So they hold on to SD content. I think they should just drop all the SD content and only have HD content. I really don't see the point in keeping the SD.

3net is amazing. I have a bunch of content for it on my Sony 3D TV. I can't get it for Comcast which I think is really a shame. I have emailed them about it several times about it and I just get the usual PR response about how they are looking into all avenues of content for their customers...blah...blah...blah. Which means don't hold your breath cuz it isn't coming anytime soon.

Re: 3D TV dying

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:03:11 EDT

telcodad posted : FYI - Latest news on 3Net Studios:

3net Studios Preps First 4K TV Series
Its first production slate includes both 3D and 4K projects
By George Winslow, Broadcasting & Cable - November 14, 2012
»www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···ries.php

EDIT: Some more info on the Multichannel News site:

3Net Studios Unveils Inaugural Slate, Higlighted by First 4K TV Series
'Space' Among Projects at JV's Production Arm
By Mike Reynolds, Multichannel News - November 14, 2012
»www.multichannel.com/programming···s/140286

Re: 3D TV dying

Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:37:41 EDT

telcodad posted : Looks like the 3D network "3net" (»www.3net.com/about) is trying to revive 3D TV however:

3net Partners Launch 3net Studios
Global production arm will develop 3D and 4K content
By George Winslow, Broadcasting & Cable - October 16, 2012
»www.broadcastingcable.com/articl···dios.php

and:

3Net creating 3D production and distribution studio
By By Joe Flint, Los Angeles Times - October 16, 2012
»www.latimes.com/entertainment/en···47.story

But as that article says: "Many of the big distributors including Time Warner Cable and Comcast Corp. do not yet carry 3Net. It is available on DirecTV."

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:54:58 EDT

telcodad posted : There is one, glasses-free, 3DTV technology that looks somewhat promising to me (and it works best with 4K U-HDTV) - "Ultra-D" by Stream TV Networks: »www.prnewswire.com/news-releases···786.html

Here is a hands-on review of it: »www.gadgetreview.com/2012/08/han···ech.html

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:18:05 EDT

camper posted :

said by telcodad:

Not surprisingly, according to a study just released by J.D. Power, the current 3D TV technology is still not finding much interest among consumers:

The progression of 3D TV looks similar to the progression of surround sound.

Surround sound started in the 1970's on the consumer side and, while there were some "wows", demand never really grew into a sustainable demand.

Surround Sound The Sequel, i.e., the 5.1 and 7.1 formats we have today, are much better received than the original 4.0 quadraphonic sound. While the addition of the subwoofer (".1") helped make the other speakers smaller and more acceptable in one's living areas, the real boost came from technology delivering a better surround sound experience, i.e., the addition of video to audio, creating surround sound movies.

imo, 3D TV nowadays is the video equivalent of the four channel quadraphonic sound of the 1970's. A cool concept, but maybe a concept that is early, a concept where the contextual technology needs to catch up and provide the compelling need to generate the demand.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:41:30 EDT

GTFan posted : Yet another marketdroid attempt to hype a tech that won't see the light of day anytime soon, at least not in any widespread or usable form.

Ya gotta love the HDTV industry, 90% of it is hype for marginally useful 'features' now.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:03:33 EDT

telcodad posted : Yes, it looks like 3D is not selling (new) TVs as the manufacturers had hoped. They are now focusing on the new 4K U-HDTV technology to get people to buy new sets:

What If They Gave A Party, But No One Came?
By Pete Putman, HDTVExpert.com - October 11, 2012
»www.hdtvexpert.com/?p=2446

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 05 Sep 2012 11:21:47 EDT

anon posted : 3d dying is cuz its too soon & people arent buying it so that they can get no content channels .

hd is whats in & companies arent getting it done fast enuf & some channels arent catching up quick enuf .

Re: 3D TV dying

Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:29:58 EDT

telcodad posted : Not surprisingly, according to a study just released by J.D. Power, the current 3D TV technology is still not finding much interest among consumers:

Consumers Show Little Interest in 3DTV
Study shows little connection between 3D and HDTV purchases
TV Technology - August 28, 2012
»www.tvtechnology.com/news/0110/c···v/215153

The J.D. Power press release: »www.jdpower.com/content/press-re···port.htm

Re: 3D TV dying

Sat, 30 Jun 2012 09:01:54 EDT

andyross posted : It's all about $$$. As mentioned, there are some UHDTV's, but they are very expen$ive right now. It isn't that simple to scale up to such a large screen, especially in the kind of volume needed.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:42:39 EDT

cypherstream posted :

said by andyross:

LG has been pushing non-active glasses 3D. But, it cuts vertical resolution in half. We'll have to wait for double-res TV's for that to become realistic.

I don't see why that wouldn't be impossible. I mean the new MacBook with Retina display is 2800x1800 I believe and they cram that in a 15" screen. Then the new iPad is 2048x1536 in only 10 inches! Could you imagine that extrapolated to a 50" screen? That would be billions of pixels!

Display technology has really come along in smartphones and tablets. It's time to take what they learned and apply that to TV.

Re: 3D TV dying

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:42:58 EDT

telcodad posted : Yes, "True 3D" TV would be what's also called "Holographic TV." Today's 3D TV is actually only "Stereographic TV" that produces just an illusion of depth.

Here are some articles about it:

Forget 3DTV Holographic TV Is The Next Big Thing
By Steve Sanger, WorldTVPC - May 31, 2010
»www.worldtvpc.com/blog/forget-3d···-tv-big/

Holographic TV
Squidoo - March 2010
»www.squidoo.com/holographictv

Re: 3D TV dying

Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:38:26 EDT

andyross posted : Of course, none of this is TRUE 3D. It's just a fixed left/right image from one viewpoint. It will look the same no matter where you are sitting.

What I'm waiting for is the true 3D that changes as you move around!!

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 20:49:05 EDT

telcodad posted : Yeah, I agree.

However, Sony demonstrated a 46-inch, glasses-free-3D UHDTV at this year's CES which used a different method that was more flexible with viewing angle and movement:

Sony 46in glasses-free 3D TV
By John Archer, TrustedReviews - January 20, 2012
»www.trustedreviews.com/sony-46in···V_review

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:48:25 EDT

mrschultz02 posted : There just no way lenticular displays will ever work as well as glasses. I'd rather wear the glasses than have to sit still staring at the screen.

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:41:50 EDT

telcodad posted : One of the first consumer-grade UHDTV sets out there is the Toshiba 55ZL2, which also provides glasses-free 3D.

However, going by an early review of it by PC Magazine, the glasses-free 3D technology still needs some more tweaking:

Toshiba's 55ZL2 Glasses-Free 3D TV Up Close
By Wendy Sheehan Donnell, PC Magazine - September 2, 2011
»www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392380,00.asp

Re: 3D TV dying

Wed, 27 Jun 2012 05:46:43 EDT

mikedz4 posted : I was reading about the ultra hdtv coming out this summer. It's supposed to be 3d WITHOUT glasses BUT the starting price is in the $4,000 or $5000

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 14:01:42 EDT

Comcast Guy posted : The Samsung active glasses that are non-rechargeable are $19.99 at Best Buy.

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:53:20 EDT

Kathygnome posted : The problem with the glasses isn't so much wearing them if you're the primary viewer, it's with nobody being able to watch in the same room unless they're also wearing them. They're fine for "Turn the lights down and the volume up, going to watch a blockbuster movie now!" but not so much for the day to day I'm watching a movie, my partner is playing on their laptop, and my daughter is playing on the floor.

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:48:11 EDT

andyross posted :

said by mrschultz02:

Yeah, I also got a Samsung and the glasses are very light, no different than wearing sunglasses. And the glasses have now gotten way cheaper, I see Target has them for $20 now.

What type of 3D glasses is that $20 for? LG uses theater-style polarized glasses, which can be cheap, but cuts resolution in half. Most everybody else uses active-shutter LCD glasses, and those are expensive.

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:07:18 EDT

mrschultz02 posted : Yeah, I also got a Samsung and the glasses are very light, no different than wearing sunglasses. And the glasses have now gotten way cheaper, I see Target has them for $20 now.

There's a website called "Is it Real or Fake 3D", I wish I had found it earlier, when I go through the 3D Blu-Rays I have all the ones I was disappointed with come from the fake column.

Stuff shot with 3D cameras looks great, stuff converted from 2D is just annoying. For animation it seems to depend on how much depth they used when building the computer models of the scenes (and setting a good angle when rendering the right and left frames).

I had a problem with ghosting on some discs, but turning down the contrast helps that problem.

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 12:44:39 EDT

Comcast Guy posted : I'm picking up a 3-D TV this week. The new Samsung glasses aren't that bad, but I can't see myself sitting through an entire football game for it. I do look forward to some 3-D blurays.

Many of the best rated HD sets are the 3-D ones, so they'll still be selling it looks like.

Re: 3D TV dying

Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:33:50 EDT

phudson126 posted : I don’t think 3D technology as ever made it to the success point. Considering a variety of drawbacks it carries that includes the cost of making 3D videos and effect on health, 3D technology is far a ahead from where we are now. Let the inventors take some time and bring it to perfection before competing with the HD channels and the HD technology. As of now, it’s a no-competition for 3D market.

Re: 3D TV dying

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 19:13:12 EDT

mrschultz02 posted : I've been fairly disappointed with the content since getting a 3D TV about a year ago.

There are maybe a handful of movies that have good 3D.

I recently started paying more attention to if something was shot in 3D vs. shot in 2D and converted. The studios must not be spending much on the conversions since those are rarely any better than hitting the 2D to 3D button on the TV.

That said, when it's done well it's great, Avatar, Hugo, Despicable Me and a few others have great 3D. With Hugo the 3D really does add to a great story.

As to the headaches, any method will do that if you sit too close or make the parallax too extreme to boost the effect. You should also only view it in a dark room so you don't see normal objects in the room mixed with the 3D movie.

Re: 3D TV dying

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:23:52 EDT

bohratom posted : Many people who watch alot of 3DTV are reporting strained eyes and headaches. Until they resolve that issue I do not think the current type of 3DTV will have alot of customers.

Re: 3D TV dying

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:40:30 EDT

andyross posted : LG has been pushing non-active glasses 3D. But, it cuts vertical resolution in half. We'll have to wait for double-res TV's for that to become realistic.

Re: 3D TV dying

Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:50:12 EDT

ctgreybeard posted : +1

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:41:08 EDT

chadb97 posted : As long as you have to wear 3D glasses to watch 3D tv, it won't be successful.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:31:28 EDT

motorola870 posted :

said by andyross:

3D TV seems to be dying. DirectTV is cutting it's 3D channel to part-time from full-time due to a lack of material.
»hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/···=DEFAULT

From what I've seen of the two 3D channels here in the guide, it's mostly repeats of the same few programs.

3DTV is not dying they are just not providing the content as much because of the lull that was going on for a while with low 3DTV sales and now they are going back up thanks to prices dropping to acceptable levels for people to purchase.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 20:28:34 EDT

TriForce posted : Not surprised, 3D is a gimmick today.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:37:28 EDT

LoveHD posted : It's too soon for 3D.

Re: 3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:32:52 EDT

gar187er posted : comcast doesnt make the content....if the content isnt there, subscriptions will dwindle, so why keep carrying it....i cant blame them...
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3D TV dying

Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:04:56 EDT

andyross posted : 3D TV seems to be dying. DirectTV is cutting it's 3D channel to part-time from full-time due to a lack of material.
»hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/···=DEFAULT

From what I've seen of the two 3D channels here in the guide, it's mostly repeats of the same few programs.