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Re: As a Charter Customer I'm upset So if you're moving out of a Charter area anyway, aren't you just complaining for the sake of complaining?
Verizon and AT&T don't let you buy equipment for FiOS and U-Verse. |
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 | No I'm complaining because I will likely be moving back into a Charter area within the next year, and obviously as I stated my parents still have Charter service at their home and my in laws were considering it.
How are you trying to compare FiOS and UVerse to cable internet? Besides Comcast Business class (which by the way you can now add your own modem), this is the first time I've ran across a company who would not allow you to install your own modem. Even Comcast said you would not be charged for a modem since they made you have it, oddly enough whenever I would add my own modems at their locations my bill would drop $7.
Also with UVerse you can purchase the modem for $100, which they often time will send you a rebate check for. |
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 | The point is very simple. Verizon controls their network, and they can let whatever they want as a device to be accepted on it.
Charter can do the same. And Time Warner Cable has until recently, not allowed customer-owned modems in many regions.
And I'm not aware of any provider allowing you to use your own modems with internet/phone service. I know Comcast doesn't, I know my provider doesn't. |
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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL kudos:78 Reviews:
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| reply to osravens said by osravens: AT&T don't let you buy equipment for U-Verse. That's not true, as long as you have a modem that has the proper credentials you can put it on the VDSL/IPDSL line and have it provisioned.
I just purchased a 3600HG unit from ebay and it will be provisioned with my self install order in 2 weeks (I set the due date that far out, that was my choice as my contract will end on regular DSL). -- If you have a topic in the direct forum please reply to it or a post of mine, I get a notification when you do this. Koetting Ford, Granite City, illinois... YOU'RE FIRED!!
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 | reply to osravens said by osravens:The point is very simple. Verizon controls their network, and they can let whatever they want as a device to be accepted on it.
Charter can do the same. And Time Warner Cable has until recently, not allowed customer-owned modems in many regions.
And I'm not aware of any provider allowing you to use your own modems with internet/phone service. I know Comcast doesn't, I know my provider doesn't. so you be ok with only being able to rent a locked down Verizon PC at a high price and having to use the Verizon app store with high prices. |
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 GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | reply to David said by David:said by osravens: AT&T don't let you buy equipment for U-Verse. That's not true, as long as you have a modem that has the proper credentials you can put it on the VDSL/IPDSL line and have it provisioned. I just purchased a 3600HG unit from ebay and it will be provisioned with my self install order in 2 weeks (I set the due date that far out, that was my choice as my contract will end on regular DSL). Do you get charged the "high speed technology" fee with this setup? |
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 DavidNow accepting new patientsPremium,VIP join:2002-05-30 Granite City, IL kudos:78 | I shouldn't, but I can't speak with experience as of yet, as I haven't seen the first bill. |
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 GbcueP.E.Premium join:2001-09-30 Santa Rosa, CA kudos:8 | I might have to buy my own RG when I move so I can save more $. |
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 | reply to osravens TWC doesn't allow you to bring your own modem for Phone/Internet either. |
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 | reply to cast sucks I didn't say my opinion on the matter.
But the point is if Charter wants to lock down their network and only allow their equipment, there's precedent in the market that allows for it that hasn't been stopped as of yet.
I have no problem with what Charter did as long as they're not going to then force everyone to pay the $7/month. If they're going to give you the modem for free, then great. If they did that as a cash grab, then that's a different story. And that I'd have a real problem with. |
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 | reply to osravens said by osravens:The point is very simple. Verizon controls their network, and they can let whatever they want as a device to be accepted on it.
Charter can do the same. And Time Warner Cable has until recently, not allowed customer-owned modems in many regions.
And I'm not aware of any provider allowing you to use your own modems with internet/phone service. I know Comcast doesn't, I know my provider doesn't. suddenlink i believe does, with internet and phone..., i know theyve let us for years you our own modem, and heck you can go buy one and use it on their system u just have to call them and give them the serial and all that |
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 | reply to Gbcue I have this modem and they don't charge any extra monthly fee for standalone Internet service like cable companies do.
If you add TV, then they don't offer you to purchase RG but rent one. I don't know how much they charge. |
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 UnnDunnPremium join:2005-12-21 Brooklyn, NY | reply to osravens On FiOS, there is nothing stopping you from using your own routing equipment. You just can't call them for help if you need it. |
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| reply to osravens said by osravens:So if you're moving out of a Charter area anyway, aren't you just complaining for the sake of complaining?
Verizon and AT&T don't let you buy equipment for FiOS and U-Verse. FiOS does. I use my own router that can handle any of the speeds that FiOS offers. I also use TiVos instead of their DVRs. |
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| reply to UnnDunn said by UnnDunn:On FiOS, there is nothing stopping you from using your own routing equipment. You just can't call them for help if you need it. Same thing with uverse.. |
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| reply to osravens said by osravens:The point is very simple. Verizon controls their network, and they can let whatever they want as a device to be accepted on it.
Charter can do the same. And Time Warner Cable has until recently, not allowed customer-owned modems in many regions. With FIOS it's often a 2 device install, the ONT and the Router. You don't NEED the router as long as you're internet only and have cat5. You need the router for the TV if you've got the on-screen schedule guide.
There is no additional charge, beyond service, for the internet/phone equipment...
I don't think I'd have a problem with Comcast requiring me to use their equipment. Though I would have a problem if they told me my service would cost $50/mo and also I had to pay a required $7 equipment fee.
I think that's the problem. You can't run a restaurant where you sell a bowl of pasta for $10 and then charge $3 for a fork while not allowing customers to bring their own fork. |
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 trebaczPremium join:2003-01-03 Mchenry, IL | reply to osravens Just jumping in on the Comcast Triple Play - with your own modem. I have a purchased modem with Comcast cable, phone, and internet -and love that I had the choice to avoid the $7 rental fee.
Did it last January and wrote the detail about it in this blog post: »blog.trebacz.com/2012/01/comcast···ris.html |
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 | reply to osravens said by osravens:The point is very simple. Verizon controls their network, and they can let whatever they want as a device to be accepted on it.
Charter can do the same. And Time Warner Cable has until recently, not allowed customer-owned modems in many regions.
And I'm not aware of any provider allowing you to use your own modems with internet/phone service. I know Comcast doesn't, I know my provider doesn't. I have comcast and was allowed to use my own SB 6121 Comcast residential will allow you use any modem as long as its on their approved list. Saved the $7 modem rental fee, so before you make up something about a provider you don't have you should research better |
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