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Hellrazor
Bah Humbug

join:2002-02-02
Abyss, PA
Reviews:
·Service Electric..
reply to Viper677

Re: Respect to experts

said by Viper677:

said by mattmag:

said by Viper677:

The problem here is with you not hiring the right home inspector and is not with the home inspectors in general. If you knew that much about building envelope then I would have expected you to hire a better HI.

Actually, the problem here is that you lost your credibility several days ago, and you may need to do some serious damage control to restore that, if its even possible...

Not really. I am not really worried about it. You should relax too.

I have been passively reading your posts in multiple topics the last few days and have pretty much wrote you off as an arrogant know it all. There is no easy fix for that and I will guarantee most people will start ignoring you.

Your arrogance towards some of the long term members on here, who are licensed in their trades is pathetic. I see that kind of gun ho stuff from rookie muni inspectors or cocky engineers who think they are gods gift. If you are this cocky on the job site, there is a very good chance I would boot you right off the job.

I get to play project manager at work. I am a jack of no trades that has to do everything from site work to dealing with all of the primes to dealing with the engineers. I just finished up a $4million reno project overseeing all phases of the work. When you get to the big leagues you learn the trades can be your friends on a job. Being a prick has its place at times but working with them to get things done gets you a lot farther in life.

Viper677
Certified Home Inspector

join:2012-03-22
Toronto
reply to Fronkman

In the end, I did my own inspection and made sure that the "official" report included my findings by essentially holding the HI's hand. The sad fact is that the seller will never believe the findings of the buyer but are forced to correct issues that appear in the official report.

You did your own inspection? - works for me. Just one question, how did you manage to inspection roof coverings? Just curious.
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Certified Home Inspector
Certified Level 1 Thermographer

Viper677
Certified Home Inspector

join:2012-03-22
Toronto
reply to Hellrazor

If you are this cocky on the job site, there is a very good chance I would boot you right off the job.

The only problem with this scenario is that you booting me off the job comes after I decided to let you retain my services. You skipped one step. You will be surprised to find out how many inspection requests i refuse because the client think he can boss me around.

I get to play project manager at work.

The difference is that you are on a payroll and I am a business owner.

You still want to continue with me?
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Certified Home Inspector
Certified Level 1 Thermographer


49528867
Premium
join:2010-04-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
kudos:3

1 recommendation

reply to Viper677
said by Viper677:

You did your own inspection? - works for me. Just one question, how did you manage to inspection roof coverings? Just curious.

Hey how about a couple of questions for you too?

Asphalt shingled roof 125 wind rating, half inch ply deck nailed 16 by 6.

How do you inspect it?

Overhead fed 200 amp (upgraded) service, meter pan and main breaker panel on the exterior of the residence powering the existing distribution panel within the premises.

How do you inspect it?

Same as above, but supplied by buried service conductors.

How do you inspect it?

A home has a natural gas stove, water heater and clothes dryer, the stove has a non-vented hood, the water heater as well as the dryer have a through the ceiling vent.

How do you inspect it?

Same home but propane?

How do you inspect it?

Hope that is not too much, I can tell by your IM’s you have no problem with long responses.

Wayne
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garys_2k
Premium
join:2004-05-07
Farmington, MI
Reviews:
·Callcentric
reply to Viper677
said by Viper677:

inadequate quantity of factual information.

Every example that I have given you is based on fact. I dont like stories. If you are unable to extract the fact out of my examples then you know very little about my business and you should then.....(see below)

Also, have you heard the one about it being better to remain silent and...

so remain silent...

As you should have done with that wiring table. Hard to imagine that you argued as you did, in violation of all sorts of codes, but yet you did...

Mike Holmes LOVES guys like you!


Daarken
Rara Avises
Premium
join:2005-01-12
Southwest LA
kudos:3

1 recommendation

reply to 49528867
Its been a while since I dropped some Kudos..
I see several in the near future.
Unfortunately I already gave one guy the middle finger a couple of times in this thread itself.
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Getting it Done.

Viper677
Certified Home Inspector

join:2012-03-22
Toronto
reply to 49528867
Four things for you:

How do you inspect it?

1. Last time I checked, I asked Fronkman this question and you aint no Fronkman.

2. The reason why I asked this question was not to question the inspection routine (which you think i did which is why you gave me this list to test me) but I wanted to find out how a normal person can get up on the roof without a ladder. Even though my next question from Fronkman was going to be what did he look for when he inspected his roof (only if he 'managed' to get up on the roof)?

buried service conductors.

3 By this do you mean service laterals? Try using the correct terminology, helps you with branding

you have no problem with long responses.

4 In this case, I kinda do.
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Certified Home Inspector
Certified Level 1 Thermographer


SwedishRider
Rider on the Storm
Premium
join:2006-01-11
not Sweden
kudos:1

1 recommendation

reply to Daarken
said by Daarken:

Unfortunately I already gave one guy the middle finger a couple of times in this thread itself.

Maybe that should be suggested as a site option in addition to the thumbs up.

robbin
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1
reply to Viper677
said by Viper677:

but I wanted to find out how a normal person can get up on the roof without a ladder.

Where was it stated that no ladder was used? What do you mean by "normal person"? Do home inspectors not use ladders?


Cho Baka
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-23
there
kudos:2
Reviews:
·TekSavvy DSL

2 recommendations

said by robbin:

Do home inspectors not use ladders?

Hmmm. Snakes do not use ladders.

The parallels are amazing:

Snakes and Ladders

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The talented hawk speaks French.

Viper677
Certified Home Inspector

join:2012-03-22
Toronto
reply to robbin
said by robbin:

said by Viper677:

but I wanted to find out how a normal person can get up on the roof without a ladder.

Where was it stated that no ladder was used? What do you mean by "normal person"? Do home inspectors not use ladders?

I see tiny brains here so let me quarter back for you.

Replace 'normal person' with 'an average home owner'. Now an average person said that he did his own home inspection. I asked how can you manage to inspect roof coverings? And the point of the question was:

An inspection is not completed unless you inspect roof coverings (one of the things inspected during the process). Did the owner inspect the roof coverings? If yes, did he own a 32 ft ladder (unless its a one story bungalow, but you still need a ladder). If by chance he did own a ladder, how did he bring it to the house? I mean did he have a roof rack already installed for that purpose. Lets say the poster did do all of that, what did he look for once he was up on top of the roof?

So the ultimate point of the story was: an average person CAN NOT do his own home inspection, he can 'look around' and that is about it.

Now, I am still waiting to find out what Fronkman has to say on this.
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Certified Home Inspector
Certified Level 1 Thermographer


Daarken
Rara Avises
Premium
join:2005-01-12
Southwest LA
kudos:3
reply to SwedishRider
I second that!


dolphins
Clean Up Our Oceans
Premium
join:2001-08-22
Westville, NJ
kudos:7
Reviews:
·Comcast

1 recommendation

reply to telco_mtl
I stopped offering advice here for the most part but I will occasionally pop in if I happen to catch bad advice being given. Too many Google experts who basically copy/paste advice from other forums without having firsthand knowledge themselves. I got tired of throwing pearls to the swine without so much as a thank you or a follow up post. I even went as far as removing any and all traces of me being a self-employed home remodeler from my profile.

Anyone who feels it necessary to wear badges of honor are prideful and are out to prove something to themselves. Those types are least likely to actually help anyone but rather look for ways to increase their own status among peers. They are often the most ferocious and vindictive when called out or confronted by someone of a equal or greater status.

I commend the true experts/craftsman of the forums who still plug away helping those in need. I'm sorry to say there just isn't enough Advil for me to be a regular here again.

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mix

join:2002-03-19
Utica, MI
reply to telco_mtl
Seems pretty obvious that Viper is a troll guys.

robbin
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1
reply to Viper677
said by Viper677:

said by robbin:

said by Viper677:

but I wanted to find out how a normal person can get up on the roof without a ladder.

Where was it stated that no ladder was used? What do you mean by "normal person"? Do home inspectors not use ladders?

I see tiny brains here

I saw that the day you started posting!


macsierra8
Baby Newfoundland
Premium
join:2003-11-30
Minden, NV
reply to Viper677
said by Viper677:

"buried service conductors."

By this do you mean service laterals? Try using the correct terminology, helps you with branding

Nice try but… It's a bit hypocritical when you can't use the correct terminology yourself..

Is it electric service lateral or sewer service lateral?
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Fronkman
An Apple a day keeps the doctor away
Premium
join:2003-06-23
Saint Louis, MO

1 edit
reply to Viper677
No, I did not inspect the roof myself, though I do own a 32 foot ladder. The home inspector got on a ladder, looked around and declared that the 10 year old roof with a 30 year warranty had only months left.

Coincidently Our insurance company came out the same day to take a look at the roof. They estimated at least 75% of the life of the roof was remaining.

so who should I believe? The home inspector who has absolutely zero liability if he gets something wrong or the insurance company who is essentially putting their own money on the line by pricing and underwriting a policy based on accurate info. Interestingly the insurance guy spotted the k&t immediately and was instrumental in forcing the sellers hand in paying for electrical work.

I really don't understand your attitude. Lots of home inspectors do lousy jobs. This isn't exactly the greatest mystery of the universe. I know they frequently refer to themselves as "engineers." No one with a real engineering degree is a home inspector.

The bottom line is that I had to babysit the HI and do a bunch of his work for him. No, I did not do the entire inspection myself. First of all, I was PAYING this guy to do it and second of all I certainly am not an expert in many fields of construction. I have learned a lot from reading, advice from some of the folks here and stuff I learned while taking chemistry and physics in college. But I am no expert. All I wanted was an official document to enhance my bargaining position. If that meant that I had to do a bunch of this guys work for him, paying him all the while, so be it.

It makes you feel bad for homeowners with no background.

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