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Re: Apple's Retail Army, Long on Loyalty but Short on Pay said by not quite right:Has anyone ever seen an "older" Apple Store employee (mid 40's)?
Yes, there are a few at the store in my area (So. Cal). In fact, one looks to be at least 60+. He's always there doing 1-on-1 training with people... I've been told he's the resident iMovie expert. |
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said by Nezmo: And I still personally think that working for an establishment for lower pay because you have been 'brainwashed' in to thinking it's a great place is an unfortunate choice - if it's that great show me with compensation over and above the 'prestige' of being able to say I work in an Apple store.
You say you understand business but insist that Apple should pay more only because they make a lot of money or it's a great place to work, neither of which is a good business reason to do so. Another point is, a great place to work doesn't always translate into higher pay. If you enjoy your work, pay rate might be #1 on your list of important things. For example, my son is considering two job offers. One pays significantly more than the other but the lower paying job would, by far, be more interesting and fun. |
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said by not quite right:Has anyone ever seen an "older" Apple Store employee (mid 40's)?
I'm sure they exist, I just don't remember seeing one at the the two stores I frequent. I was thinking the other day that it was surprising that Apple hasn't been hit with a age discrimination lawsuit yet.
Probably for the same reason my restaurants haven't. No one in their 40s or higher applies. |
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Los Angeles, CA | said by howardfine:said by not quite right:Has anyone ever seen an "older" Apple Store employee (mid 40's)?
I'm sure they exist, I just don't remember seeing one at the the two stores I frequent. I was thinking the other day that it was surprising that Apple hasn't been hit with a age discrimination lawsuit yet.
Probably for the same reason my restaurants haven't. No one in their 40s or higher applies. I was in my mid 40s when I was there, so maybe things have changed. However, I had many people actually seeking me out (I'm guessing) because of my age. Usually these people were older than I was, but people younger sought me out. Perhaps it was a perceived notion that I knew more or had better people skills (or both). |
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Re: Apple's Retail Army, Long on Loyalty but Short on Pay said by BellBoy:I was in my mid 40s when I was there, so maybe things have changed. However, I had many people actually seeking me out (I'm guessing) because of my age. Usually these people were older than I was, but people younger sought me out. Perhaps it was a perceived notion that I knew more or had better people skills (or both).
That was my exact same experience when I was in retail sales as well ... except with the 20 & under crowd. They seem to think anyone over thirty is ancient, and couldn't possibly know what the fuck they were talking about. Which is funny because that's the exact same thing I was thinking about them, and their age group. 
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said by Zyncotl:Maybe it's different where I am, but Apple has 50 people on the floor working with people. Best Buy is 4x as large, if not more, and MAY have 50 people on the floor working with people. I think that is going to cut into an individuals pay.
I've never seen a crowded best buy.
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Re: Apple's Retail Army, Long on Loyalty but Short on Pay I met a gentlemen almost a year ago who (at the time) worked at an Apple Retail Store in Connecticut as a "Genius". He had a B.S. in Computer Science from a reputable university and Apple was paying him either $18 or $18.50/hr. I don't remember which.
All I could think about as he was telling me this was "and you have a computer science degree... what the hell are you thinking?!"
Granted, I have absolutely no idea how long he'd been at Apple, or how long he'd been working the Genius position, but he'd been out of school for a good 3 or 4 years at that point in time.
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said by Elite:I met a gentlemen almost a year ago who (at the time) worked at an Apple Retail Store in Connecticut as a "Genius". He had a B.S. in Computer Science from a reputable university and Apple was paying him either $18 or $18.50/hr. I don't remember which.
All I could think about as he was telling me this was "and you have a computer science degree... what the hell are you thinking?!"
Granted, I have absolutely no idea how long he'd been at Apple, or how long he'd been working the Genius position, but he'd been out of school for a good 3 or 4 years at that point in time.
Wow... yeah, I call BS. Even in CT a CS degree would get you more than $37k/yr.
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said by Mike:What's your point? Results are results.
Well..anyway...I needed to go to the Genius on Thursday, cracked screen on Nano...no breaks, $65 to fix (well, replace)...hands me device, sign the iPad.."Okay, we're through"...somehow I gave her a break and ask "you send a bill in the mail?" and she's like "oh...yeah, right, I forgot..." hmmm.. iPad crashed twice in 5 minutes..(crappy software)..
Next I needed to buy some stuff. Look at something fancy (accessory) and I asked how much ($29) then he said "no...no...this is wrong and pulled another sticker which revealed real price...$79..." Anyway, can't say I met anyone smarter than me in that store, which doesn't say a hell of a lot.....
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said by Gbcue:said by genxr:said by Mike:Apple Retail is a shit hole. Compared to what? Gap? Best Buy? I don't work retail, but I would prefer working at Apple than any other retailer I can think of. And the demand for Apple's products is astronomical. I don't know how much selling is actually going on. They're more just fetching product and ringing people up. If I had to work in retail, I'd go straight to Costco. My buddy was working at Costco, around $26/hour when he left, back in 2002 or 2003. Good money for shipping/receiving.
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said by JohnInSJ:said by Elite:I met a gentlemen almost a year ago who (at the time) worked at an Apple Retail Store in Connecticut as a "Genius". He had a B.S. in Computer Science from a reputable university and Apple was paying him either $18 or $18.50/hr. I don't remember which.
All I could think about as he was telling me this was "and you have a computer science degree... what the hell are you thinking?!"
Granted, I have absolutely no idea how long he'd been at Apple, or how long he'd been working the Genius position, but he'd been out of school for a good 3 or 4 years at that point in time.
Wow... yeah, I call BS. Even in CT a CS degree would get you more than $37k/yr. Not necessarily. I have guys working now that have CS degrees making about that, one even making $12/hr right now.
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| said by ptrowski:said by JohnInSJ:said by Elite:I met a gentlemen almost a year ago who (at the time) worked at an Apple Retail Store in Connecticut as a "Genius". He had a B.S. in Computer Science from a reputable university and Apple was paying him either $18 or $18.50/hr. I don't remember which.
All I could think about as he was telling me this was "and you have a computer science degree... what the hell are you thinking?!"
Granted, I have absolutely no idea how long he'd been at Apple, or how long he'd been working the Genius position, but he'd been out of school for a good 3 or 4 years at that point in time.
Wow... yeah, I call BS. Even in CT a CS degree would get you more than $37k/yr. Not necessarily. I have guys working now that have CS degrees making about that, one even making $12/hr right now. That's kinda sad. Glassdoor.com puts the national average for software developer at $50-100k. You'd have to be pretty bad to come in at half the lower range. ($12/hour)
»www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/conne···2,30.htm
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kudos:4 | No, it's been a bad economy for many years. People are doing what they have to do to survive. These guys with their CS degrees aren't even programming. |
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Hollywood, FL | said by ptrowski:No, it's been a bad economy for many years. People are doing what they have to do to survive. These guys with their CS degrees aren't even programming.
Programming is outsourced effortlessly to India where they'll pay $12-24k/year, no sense paying an American dude $50-100k/yr. When Apple retail pays a veteran Genius near $40-50k, in this economy, nothing at all wrong with it. |
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