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Grover8
join:2012-01-06
Fresh Meadows, NY

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Re: [TIVO] Here comes the copy protection bit (letter)

I can confirm that HBO and Cinemax are now being flagged. I had to get my two cetons reactivated to watch it again. The recorded file will not play on another pc nor be edited or exported.

Good luck everyone. Verizon is now like the rest.

aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
Asus RT-AX89

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said by Grover8:

I can confirm that HBO and Cinemax are now being flagged. I had to get my two cetons reactivated to watch it again. The recorded file will not play on another pc nor be edited or exported.

Good luck everyone. Verizon is now like the rest.

Well not exactly like the rest. Only HBO and Cinemax are flagged. The other Premium channels can still be transferred without issue. With some of the other cable companies those are flagged as well.
cheezmo
join:2001-11-19
Plano, TX

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Time to unsubscribe from HBO and Cinemax.
09129800 (banned)
join:2012-06-27
New York, NY

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said by cheezmo:

Time to unsubscribe from HBO and Cinemax.

If HBO's plan with this was to encourage piracy of their content then they've certainly succeeded.

I won't be renewing my HBO or Cinemax either. Pirated copies of HBO shows don't have any DRM.

I don't see why I should be expected to pay money for such heavily locked down copies of content.

birdfeedr
MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI

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said by 09129800:

said by cheezmo:

Time to unsubscribe from HBO and Cinemax.

I won't be renewing my HBO or Cinemax either. Pirated copies of HBO shows don't have any DRM.

Don't wait for renewal, vote with your wallet NOW! There's no penalty of ETF for canceling a premium subscription. You could get HBO for a day by subscribing today and canceling tomorrow.

Unless, of course, you're on a free 3 month trial.

celticpride
@verizon.net

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Not sure how this effects me yet ,but just curious doe the directv MRV dvr let them stream their preminmun channels to other dvrs in the house? I guess i should ask this question at DBSTALK.

Thinkdiff
MVM,
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY

Thinkdiff

MVM,

Streaming is allowed, which is why the TiVo Premier can also stream CCI flagged content to other TiVos.

Transferring (if a local copy is stored on the receiving device) is not allowed.
cheezmo
join:2001-11-19
Plano, TX

cheezmo

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I have Tivo HD's which transfer rather than stream. So I can't record on one and watch on the other.
said by Thinkdiff:

Streaming is allowed, which is why the TiVo Premier can also stream CCI flagged content to other TiVos.

Transferring (if a local copy is stored on the receiving device) is not allowed.


aaronwt
Premium Member
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
Asus RT-AX89

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said by cheezmo:

I have Tivo HD's which transfer rather than stream. So I can't record on one and watch on the other.

said by Thinkdiff:

Streaming is allowed, which is why the TiVo Premier can also stream CCI flagged content to other TiVos.

Transferring (if a local copy is stored on the receiving device) is not allowed.

Correct. You need to use TiVo Premieres to stream
DGGSLF
join:2007-04-14
Lynn, MA

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So I had another troubleshooting session with tech support on Sunday night when they called the house to see if my problem receiveing HBO and Cinemax was resolved. After a half hour, the young lady agreed to send a technician out with M Cards, since she thought the S Card could be the problem. Give this lady a raise!!

Anyway, a tech showed up yesterday and didn't know why he was there. He had no cards on the truck, so I knew this was a waste of time. He calls the depot and after his lead guy told him that CableCARDS were no longer supported, I knew it was time to see what my next move should be. He left my house and half hour later, I received a text saying my ticket was closed, though nothing was done. Some service!

This morning I went to the Verizon store and swapped the S Card from my Sony TV for an M Card. I called the activition line and after talking to a live person for 15 minutes, I now have my HBO and Cinemax channels back on the Sony. BTW, I tried the M Card on the Sharp TV and it would not even recognize that a card was plugged in, so it looks like only an S Card will work for that TV which is eight years old.

This tells me that lack of support for simulcrypt may not be the issue after all. The fact that an M Card works for the Sony TV which is seven years old, tells me that Verizon needs to figure out how to provision the other TV using S Card.

Why would the M Card work on the Sony TV but not the original S Card that had to be swapped out?

I now need to open another ticket to focus on just the Sharp which can only support an S Card.

Zero5
join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA

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said by DGGSLF:

Why would the M Card work on the Sony TV but not the original S Card that had to be swapped out?

My best guess would be that it has to do with the firmware version that is loaded onto the CableCARD itself. A newer firmware version on the M-Card compared to an older firmware version on the S-Card could possibly be updated to a newer copy protection specification that's required for the decoding of copy protected content on HBO/Cinemax.

nycdave
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join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY

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Verizon can't fix a possible compatibility issue with an 8 year old TV. If the Sharp can't recognize an M-card, you are stuck with an S-card that may not be able to properly activate for the TV - that's why you can't get HBO/Cinemax to work on the Sharp.

Post in the VZ Direct forum for additional support.

aaronwt
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join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA

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Does Simulcrypt have anything to do with the issue? For older devices they were not going to get an update to support it.
DGGSLF
join:2007-04-14
Lynn, MA

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Thanks. I just did.
DGGSLF

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Well I posted in the direct forum, per your suggestion but still no response. I do see a lot of activity on the forum but no response yet to my issue, which has all the details and trouble ticket numbers etc.

Guess I'll give it a couple of days and then open another ticket with 800-Verizon if still no takers. :-(
DGGSLF

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Thanks! Adam from the direct forum was very helpful and got it to work. Hopefully you guys do knowledge shares so the other techs can learn from this experience.

Thanks again!!
JohnC47
join:2012-08-24
Northborough, MA

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Ditto for me. Adam was able to get my cable cards working on my Tivo HD XL first try. This was after 3 hours of frustration on the phone with a CSR.

Thanks Adam!