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Re: [TIVO] Here comes the copy protection bit (letter) Yes. Whenever I tune to channel 131, I get the screen that the letter indicates I should get, i.e. the screen with CableCARD ID, host ID and Data ID, along with the customer support number to call.
I believe NYC Dave mentioned something about that in a Simulcrypt thread about a year ago. I certainly dont want to pay for two more boxes, so I hope they can fix this. |
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Laurel, MD
kudos:1 | reply to icemannyr1
said by icemannyr1:Which Turner HD channel are not?
On VHO7 CNN, TBS and TNT are 0x02 - Copy Once.
None of them are, here.
Are you checking on a TiVo?
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 icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ | said by wmcbrine:said by icemannyr1:Which Turner HD channel are not?
On VHO7 CNN, TBS and TNT are 0x02 - Copy Once.
None of them are, here. Are you checking on a TiVo? I'm checking on the channels on the FiOS STB Menu and CCI for those channels is 0x02 on VHO7. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FiOS
| said by icemannyr1:said by wmcbrine:said by icemannyr1:Which Turner HD channel are not?
On VHO7 CNN, TBS and TNT are 0x02 - Copy Once.
None of them are, here. Are you checking on a TiVo? I'm checking on the channels on the FiOS STB Menu and CCI for those channels is 0x02 on VHO7. I thought someone had mentioned in another thread that there is a difference between what the TiVo shows and what the FiOS STB shows.
But can you even transfer content from the FiOS STB like you can with TiVos? If not then it really doesn't matter. |
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icemannyr1
join:2001-04-11
Township Of Washington, NJ | You can't transfer the FiOS DVR recordings as files.
If the recording is from a channel set to copy freely you can play back and record it on your computer via firewire. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by icemannyr1:You can't transfer the FiOS DVR recordings as files.
If the recording is from a channel set to copy freely you can play back and record it on your computer via firewire.
Firewire? That brings back some memories. I haven't used that with transferring content in over half a dozen years at least. |
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 bohratomJersey Shore will rise again
join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ | said by aaronwt:Firewire? That brings back some memories. I haven't used that with transferring content in over half a dozen years at least.
I use it here in VHO7 to archive important recordings but seems most of the good channels are migrating to Copy-once which will make it useless soon. |
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bohratomJersey Shore will rise again
join:2011-07-07
Red Bank NJ | reply to aaronwt
said by aaronwt:I thought someone had mentioned in another thread that there is a difference between what the TiVo shows and what the FiOS STB shows. That is correct, many channels which my FIOS stb shows as copy-once are copy-freely when viewed with a cablecard device. |
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| Well, I spent another hour with Tech support on Tuesday, trying to make both my TVs pair with the new CableCARD they sent me.
The Tech's final comment was: "I don't think you'll have a problem on July 31st, since you're now getting all of your subscribed channels". My feedback was that the letter said if I can not tune channel 131, then I have a problem. He disagreed and said all of the techs he has talked to in his office also disagreed with my interpretation.
I also mentioned the potential for a simulcrypt issue in my VHO 6 but he thought that was a non issue (though I'm not sure he knew what simulcrypt was). I guess at this point and after three calls to tech support and being sent new CableCARDS, all I can do now is wait till the end of the month and see what happens. :-( |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by DGGSLF:Well, I spent another hour with Tech support on Tuesday, trying to make both my TVs pair with the new CableCARD they sent me.
The Tech's final comment was: "I don't think you'll have a problem on July 31st, since you're now getting all of your subscribed channels". My feedback was that the letter said if I can not tune channel 131, then I have a problem. He disagreed and said all of the techs he has talked to in his office also disagreed with my interpretation.
................ How could they interpret it another way? |
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brutus
join:2003-12-16
Tampa, FL | said by aaronwt:said by DGGSLF:Well, I spent another hour with Tech support on Tuesday, trying to make both my TVs pair with the new CableCARD they sent me.
The Tech's final comment was: "I don't think you'll have a problem on July 31st, since you're now getting all of your subscribed channels". My feedback was that the letter said if I can not tune channel 131, then I have a problem. He disagreed and said all of the techs he has talked to in his office also disagreed with my interpretation.
................ How could they interpret it another way? Because it will probably work like it has in the past where you just can't tune channels that are copy once or at least they are assuming this to be the case. This is how I always found when a new channel was flagged as copy once. It wouldn't show up on some TiVos, but did on the one that was paired. |
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It's Verizon. Do I need to say more? 
They send out a letter to the subscribers and don't even give the techs a heads up or train them on how to resolve potential issues. All he was doing was disabling and re-enabling...multiple times, this was after he asked me to read the letter aloud to him! |
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Grover8
join:2012-01-06
Fresh Meadows, NY | Hm.. it seems you have antiquated television sets where you actually stick cablecards into them. I never seen one before only heard about them. So you can't view anything on your tv other than the cablecard id, host id, etc and verizon's number?
I'm not sure if verizon even activated my cablecards. I'll have to see on the 31st. |
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 birdfeedrPremium,MVM
join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
kudos:8 | said by Grover8:I'm not sure if verizon even activated my cablecards. I'll have to see on the 31st.
You can see today if they're activated. Are you getting any content? They're activated.
You'll get to see on the 31st if they are paired to the device. |
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I wouldn't call them antiquated. Old yes, antiquated, no!
They are in very good condition and show very good picture. One is a Sony Bravia XBR1 and the other is a Sharp Aquos.
They were both top of the heap when I bought them in 2005 and 2004 respectively and I currently get every channel VZ provides on the Ultimate package, plus HBO, Cinemax, Movies and Sports. And there lies my problem.
The letter indicates I will loose some or all of these channels after July 31st if the CableCARDs and not paired with the TVs but VZ can not seem to make them pair successfully. |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by DGGSLF:I wouldn't call them antiquated. Old yes, antiquated, no!
They are in very good condition and show very good picture. One is a Sony Bravia XBR1 and the other is a Sharp Aquos.
They were both top of the heap when I bought them in 2005 and 2004 respectively and I currently get every channel VZ provides on the Ultimate package, plus HBO, Cinemax, Movies and Sports. And there lies my problem.
The letter indicates I will loose some or all of these channels after July 31st if the CableCARDs and not paired with the TVs but VZ can not seem to make them pair successfully.
isn't that because of Simulcrypt? The older devices needed an update to work with Simulcrypt. But most of them aren't supported anymore and never had an update to support Simulcrypt. Newer devices have been updated to support Simulcrypt. But TVs don't have cable card slots anymore. I remember the 1080P samsung DLP set I got in 2005 had a cable card slot. I never used it though since I used TiVos and didn't want to watch TV in real time. I wish i could have the money back from that TV now. It's amazing what size HDTV you can get for $4k now. I spent way too much on the TV back then and swore I would never spend anywhere near that much on a TV ever again. |
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 rtcyFACTS only pleasePremium
join:1999-10-16
Norwalk, CA | reply to bull3964
said by bull3964 :You're free to vote with your wallet of course, just don't expect it to have ANY effect.
Annual revenue for cable card users in 3rd party devices probably amount to less than the rounding error in the quarterly financials for one of these networks. They simply aren't going to lose sleep over losing you as a subscriber.
yeah. they've lost so many subscribers over the last 5 years since this depression started that I'm sure you're right.
it must be why they are advertising more than ever cause they don't care.
well I too vote with my wallet. |
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Utter Frustration 2 phone calls and 4 hours later on the phone with Verizon I still have no joy in getting my CC's fixed. I'll spare the details of how unaware they are of this process but needless to say it's very frustrating. My last call got the issue elevated and I wait breathlessly for a phone call in 24 hrs to see if the issue has been resolved by the man behind the curtain. I have an S3 TIVO and was activated very early on as service was enabled in our town. Did I say frustrating?...!!
If anyone has any magic phone numbers or other incantations that might help I appreciate it.
Ursa |
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aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| said by ursa9999:2 phone calls and 4 hours later on the phone with Verizon I still have no joy in getting my CC's fixed. I'll spare the details of how unaware they are of this process but needless to say it's very frustrating. My last call got the issue elevated and I wait breathlessly for a phone call in 24 hrs to see if the issue has been resolved by the man behind the curtain. I have an S3 TIVO and was activated very early on as service was enabled in our town. Did I say frustrating?...!!
If anyone has any magic phone numbers or other incantations that might help I appreciate it.
Ursa
I had my cards activated years ago as well. But for me, the pairing process for three TiVos was completed in under five minutes using the automated phone application. |
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Re: [TIVO] Here comes the copy protection bit (letter) Folks having problems should consider sending a private message to the @verizonsupport twitter team. I've found them to actually be better than the people running scripted phone support. Send them all the cablecard info they'll need (Host, Data, and CC IDs) and see what happens. Can't hurt to try. |
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