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join:2011-03-29
Riverview, NB
reply to avenison

Re: Sudbury ON - FibreOP FTTH - job fair Thursday 6pm

I can answer a few of your questions/thoughts.

1. The website doesn't show you every possible combination you can get FibreOP services, you have to call for that.

2. If you go on a one year contract there is no charge for installation. If you don't I think it's $149.95. This is actually a bargain in my opinion because installing FibreOP can take anywhere from 4 hours to an entire day. Or two worst case.

3. There is no technical reason they can't increase the upload speed beyond 30Mbps. That is just what they have decided from a competitive perspective.

4. The included router (which has built-in wireless) is the Actiontec R1000H. It runs Linux but you can't build a custom firmware image and you can't install Tomato. If you want to replace this with a different device and have only internet it is easy if the new device supports VLANs. If you have TV service it becomes much more complicated. I have created custom firmware for the Asus RT-N56U which makes it a drop-in replacement and works perfectly.


avenison

join:2009-12-10
90121
Hi again. I haven't been around lately, sorry about the late replies.
 

@file

Regarding installation, it depends where you're looking. You said installation is free w/contract; the FibreOP Internet page (on Bell Aliant's maritime site, see fine print section) says free w/contract but for FibreOP TV subscribers, while fibreop.ca states "Free professional installation is included for every customer." (emphasis mine.) A $150 fee for a bundled installation would be reasonable (and with most people's wiring, even a bargain), but for an internet-only connection that's rather steep.

Thank you for the info about the router - the site gave me the impression that it is an integrated device, so I'm glad to learn this is not the case. I'll probably just leave Tomato on my RT-N16 and use that.
 

@johnB

Thanks for the details regarding the roll-out. Was the Lasalle target met? Is there a tentative date for areas off of Notre Dame?

I also have a bunch of other questions, hooray!

1. In my area the POTS lines are on their own poles going through backyards/alleyways. I presume this is where they will be running the fibre, as opposed to sharing the street-side poles with hydro and cable?

2. Can you tell me what model ONTs are provided?

3. Will installation of the ONTs be strictly outside? I'd prefer to have it installed in the basement beside my existing demarcation point, both to discourage tampering and to avoid running power outside.

4. How does FibreOP's backup power system compare to a POTS landline?

5. Any idea when Sudbury-specific terms of service will be available?


JohnB

@184.151.63.x
The ONT(optical network terminal, for those who didn't know) is manufactured by Alcatel-Lucent. It is always mounted indoors, usually wear existing wiring enters the home. The battery back up provides 8 hours of phone USE, and a lot more for standby time. However, cordless phones would still not work no matter what technology the phone line used.

The address the comment about backyard poles, there are cases in Sudbury where yes, we have ran the fibre along that line. However, there are also cases(holland ave) where it was ran on the pole which carries hydro and cable only prior to fibreop.


JohnB

@184.151.63.x
reply to avenison
Here is a picture of the exact model being used

»twimgs.com/nojitter/ehk/December···20f1.png

kovy7

join:2009-03-26
kudos:8
said by JohnB :

Here is a picture of the exact model being used

»twimgs.com/nojitter/ehk/December···20f1.png

wheres the rj11 for phone ?


JohnB

@184.151.63.x
From the ONT, an Ethernet cable runs into an Actiontek router. From there, a coax runs to the TV and the phone line is run to either the phone or splitter.

kovy7

join:2009-03-26
kudos:8
said by JohnB :

From the ONT, an Ethernet cable runs into an Actiontek router. From there, a coax runs to the TV and the phone line is run to either the phone or splitter.

Ok so the Actiontek router has a POTS port?

file

join:2011-03-29
Riverview, NB
The ONT has two phone ports, thus making it capable of having two phone lines. Internally it's like the VoIP hardware adapters that are available for other services. The difference is the VoIP traffic is run over a dedicated network straight to the equipment back at the central office. The linked picture seems to be of a model without this capability (there are different ones as some providers do not need it).

kovy7

join:2009-03-26
kudos:8
said by file:

The ONT has two phone ports, thus making it capable of having two phone lines. Internally it's like the VoIP hardware adapters that are available for other services. The difference is the VoIP traffic is run over a dedicated network straight to the equipment back at the central office. The linked picture seems to be of a model without this capability (there are different ones as some providers do not need it).

That's what I was saying lol.


avenison

join:2009-12-10
90121
reply to JohnB
said by JohnB :

The ONT(optical network terminal, for those who didn't know) is manufactured by Alcatel-Lucent. It is always mounted indoors, usually wear existing wiring enters the home. The battery back up provides 8 hours of phone USE, and a lot more for standby time. However, cordless phones would still not work no matter what technology the phone line used.

The address the comment about backyard poles, there are cases in Sudbury where yes, we have ran the fibre along that line. However, there are also cases(holland ave) where it was ran on the pole which carries hydro and cable only prior to fibreop.

Ok, glad they're going with the inside ONTs - it seems they were using the outdoor grey-box type when the available documents were written ( »productsandservice.bellaliant.ne···uide.pdf ). Regardless of where they're running the conduit I should be able to have it installed where I need it then.

Regarding power backup, I wasn't really asking about the ONT but the equipment at the CO end. POTS is nice since in a power outage a parasitic phone will work as long as there's backup power there - I am wondering if this new network will be on the same support infrastructure or if not.

You seem to have sidestepped my questions about expected delivery dates, but hopefully we will hear more soon?


nitzguy
Premium
join:2002-07-11
Sudbury, ON
said by avenison:

Regarding power backup, I wasn't really asking about the ONT but the equipment at the CO end. POTS is nice since in a power outage a parasitic phone will work as long as there's backup power there - I am wondering if this new network will be on the same support infrastructure or if not.

My guess is not to power failure simply because there won't be any traditional "power" running down this fibre line? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe beams of light can be used for electrical conductivity?

In regards to the delivery dates, just look for where that truck is with the trailer and the big sign attached, it was at the Rexall at Westmount and Barrydowne a couple months ago and if you look in the street tool, you can see some streets have been added...sadly mine hasn't yet, but I do see some of the markings in my area for what looks to be Bell equipment...I'll take a picture of it soon and post it up here...I would figure those areas would be first since they have the locates all done.