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25139889 (banned)
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Arm and a Leg????? hardly. But something has to subsidize cheap internet. And remember- those people in those shows want a pay check just like you. They don't work for pennies on the dollar from Click to Pay ads.
elefante72
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You already pay for the content. The copy once flag is DRM designed to make it more difficult to view that content you legally pay for, under the guise that pirates will share that material and thus they NEED to protect their content.

I like the way it is now. I can easily watch on my PC my W7MC shows on a media share. If they put the copy flag on, a 100% legitimate use of the material I am paying for will be removed.

Also, the silicondust ipad apps, etc will no longer work.

You will be forced to wait for Verizon (known world-wide for their high quality software and PC only versions) to conjure up an app to get access to it, of course using THEIR DVRs not my W7MC that I use today to avoid the $60/month in fees I don't pay to them.

So why bother having cable? I can simply download what I want and watch it where I want, like I do now 100% legally, except I could do it for free and do exactly what stupid DRM restrictions do-- turn law abiding citizens into criminals.

If you recall DRM already failed in music, and itunes is an example on how a legitimate site works and that DRM just limits choice and portability.

So this is only going back into the stone age.

After VZ wanting to jack my 3-play rates $30 (to $130), I am simply going to drop all 3 and go to TWC for $40/month for 15/2, and pocket the extra $90/month. Ok I may have to pay $6 for VOIP because my wife needs a landline.

Imagine what I can do with $84, hmm maybe I can put that toward my Verizon family share plan Oops, I went to VM an PPC, another $100/month in my pocket.

Sorry VZ, you lose $184/month from me.

Great plan....
sandman_1
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said by 25139889:

Arm and a Leg????? hardly. But something has to subsidize cheap internet. And remember- those people in those shows want a pay check just like you. They don't work for pennies on the dollar from Click to Pay ads.

LOL, you are funny man. How's that kool-aid taste?
25139889 (banned)
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I understand that. My point was they expect to get paid- and want in on it too. And my comment about already over priced content was that hollywood wants paid as well- just like the "news guy" wishes.

And this proves that the grass is NOT always better on the otherside as people make VZ out to be with FiOS. They're not better than an MSO.
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no i'm not funny. my point was about the remark that Karl always makes about TV being over priced. they want paid just like he does.
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You need an extender for your W7MC. You are allowed to stream that recorded content, just not copy it to a different device. Spend $100 on a refurbished XBox 360 from bestbuy.com and watch live and recorded tv from your W7MC. While not using a cable box...
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can also likely get software that will strip off the copy once flag. its not wrong to do so unless you go beyond the LAN and offer it over the internet.
34764170 (banned)
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Etobicoke, ON

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said by 25139889:

Arm and a Leg????? hardly. But something has to subsidize cheap internet. And remember- those people in those shows want a pay check just like you. They don't work for pennies on the dollar from Click to Pay ads.

What cheap Internet? Stop hoarding the cheap Internet!

SimbaSeven
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It is overpriced. It hikes every year, and I mean EVERY YEAR.
25139889 (banned)
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and like i said- those same people that produce and are in the shows that are air entitled to their pay checks the same as anyone else. The fact is what happened to VZ and ATT's claim where cable rates would be cheaper?

Oh wait- we can't bitch about that because VZ rolled out FiOS.
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it could be much more expensive than what it is. And yes the US does have cheap internet. They could roll out those yearly price increases to the Internet when in fact they don't.

cdru
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said by Kearnstd:

can also likely get software that will strip off the copy once flag.

AFAIK, no such software exists.
Expand your moderator at work

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Re: .....

I unfortunately pay for a STB and use Elgato's EyeTV HD to record my content DRM free on my Mac. Its only drawback is that it only records one show at a time. Other than that it works great and it transcodes on the fly for my iOS devices.
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said by 25139889:

And yes the US does have cheap internet.

Relative to what? Here in Paris, for $47/mo. including equipment lease and taxes, I get pretty good Internet:



pretty good phone service with free calling to France and US + landlines in more than 100 countries

and decent TV (the content sucks, 150+ channels of mostly garbage, just like the US), but the non-premium channels come unencrypted and can be viewed/recorded/streamed with VLC, etc.

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said by 25139889:

And yes the US does have cheap internet.

In tiny little pockets here and there. Otherwise it's NOT cheap Internet for most of North America.

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You do not know what you are talking about. They are paid way to much.
Like the show "Two and a Half men" Each actor gets a million per show, make like 20 shows a year and replay the same show over and over the rest of the year.

I have just spent six months watching repeats (everyone is doing that now), but i am still paying for TV but getting repeats. So not only did they get paid, paid way to much, they got paid twice for the same show.