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neufuse

join:2006-12-06
Indiana, PA

huh?

Can someone explain what this means? I thought a cablecard always had to be pair with a specific host? or are they saying you can only pair it to equipment they choose now?

CharlesH1

join:2011-04-29
Milpitas, CA

said by neufuse:

Can someone explain what this means? I thought a cablecard always had to be pair with a specific host? or are they saying you can only pair it to equipment they choose now?

Until now, Verizon did not require that the card be paired to the device. The card simply had to be activated and authorized to decode particular channels. OTOH, most cable companies, such as Comcast, insisted that the card be paired to a device at least to receive premium channels.

elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Reviews:
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reply to neufuse
If the cablecard was activated (paired) successfully, you can move it to another box without re-pairing.

With clearQAM channels I was able to watch even if the cablecard wasn't activated properly (I just stuck it into the 3CC).

When they turn on the copy once flag, if the pairing does not match the HostID (the box you plug it into)--Data ID, you will not be able to decode those channels since copy once is tied to a unique DataID, since CCI copy-once actually re-encrypts the stream.

So for instance if copy freely is on, the file sitting on your W7MC is a decrypted blob you can move around and use freely. If CCI/CO flag was set that data at rest is encrypted on the disk and only the authorized endpoint with the decryption key can decrypt (view) that content.

It's basically crap.


wkm001

join:2009-12-14

Like I said above, you can stream content from your W7MC to an extender and be within your rights while not violating provider's flag.


elefante72

join:2010-12-03
East Amherst, NY
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·Verizon FiOS
·voip.ms

Thanks. I already have that setup and it will continue to work because the extender is streaming, like tivos.

However my PC's and ipads will no longer be able to work on content w/ this flag, and room to room transfers on tivos will be dead.

And there was a pretty vibrant linux crowd (mythtv, sagetv, etc) that was able to use FIOS in peace.

Once they start turning on the flag those solutions will be dead in the water.

This is about reducing choice, not increasing it.

If aereo wins, watch out cable providers...



cdru
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join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to neufuse
While most of the doom and gloom already mentioned is true, it also may be that many users don't see any negative effect. Just because they can have the copy-once flag turned on doesn't mean it will automatically turn on all programming. Expect it to show up first on premium channels, particularly HBO. Other channels may have it from time to time or a channel all the time. I would not expect it on all or even most channels all the time.

If the copy-once flag is not set, there won't be any change in what you can do with the stream. And if it's not paired with a device, just call and pair it.


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