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Chris 313
Come get some
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join:2004-07-18
Houma, LA
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reply to spazychicken

Re: Enforcement of the 250 GB data consumption is suspended.

said by spazychicken:

Me too. I'm not torrenting and pulling from newsgroups 24/7. It is just the initial Backblaze backup. My normal usage is around 150 GB/month.

I had actually planned on seeding the initial backup over 2-3 months to avoid cap issues, but after the enforcement was stopped, I decided to go for it.

I'll return to my near my normal usage next month.

Yeah. My normal is anywhere from 180-220GB/month typically. And depending what Comcast comes up with cap wise for later, I'll ensure I do whatever to get my limit and if I go over and am charged more, I'll do more to get my money's worth.

Mine was E3 this month and a buttload of Netflix streaming


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
kudos:3
reply to aabaaf

If you do 5 TB I'd love to see a screenshot of the meter.


nhgames1010

join:2004-12-01
Lake Worth, FL
reply to Gerard1234

I noticed this as well on my account just now. So what does this mean for all of us?



TriForce

join:2008-05-27
Chico, CA
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3 edits
reply to Gerard1234

The meter disappeared from my account, leaving only the message box saying the cap enforcement is suspended.

Edit: I guess it's time to have a little fun.

Edit 2: Nevermind, I have my meter back. LOL, I forget it's the end of the month.

ctggzg
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join:2005-02-11
USA
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reply to Gerard1234

Let the bandwidth hogs rejoice. I expect thank-you notes in the mail since I'm subsidizing your heavy usage, much of which I'll bet is fishy. Maybe to achieve the same effect as a cap they should target that suspicious activity directly, thereby sparing the few LEGITIMATE heavy users.


Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1

1 recommendation

Kinda funny how nobody talks about "subsidizing heavy users" in the fios forum.



ArrayList
netbus developer
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join:2005-03-19
Evanston, IL
reply to ctggzg

define "legitimate".



ctgreybeard
Old dogs can learn new tricks
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join:2001-11-13
Bethel, CT
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reply to ctggzg

said by ctggzg:

Let the bandwidth hogs rejoice. I expect thank-you notes in the mail since I'm subsidizing your heavy usage, much of which I'll bet is fishy.

I cannot agree with you at all, even though I have never exceeded the 250GB cap. I don't understand your claim that "bandwidth hogs" are "subsidized" by your connection. There is no evidence, at all, that there is a bandwidth crises beyond the marketing claims of the providers. Who, it has to be understood, are the prime beneficiaries of such claims. It is Smoke and Mirrors plain and simple.

The reason behind such claims of bandwidth depletion are pure-and-simple reactions to legitimate competition. They don't want you to go to other, useful, services that compete with their legacy services. And, because they are the Gatekeepers, they think they have the right (and certainly the ability) to block competitors. This is NOT what we want or need as consumers. Active competition as GOOD. And not only for us but for technology as a whole, some innovators my fail, some may survive, but to artificially FAIL some because a legacy incumbent chooses to squash them is against the public interest.

But back to the topic... if Comcast can provide exhibits that "bandwidth hogs" are causing ACTUAL HARM then I will accept the caps/overages. But, to my knowledge, they have not and cannot provided any such justification.

To my mind it is a simple cash grab "because they can" ...
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
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Depends on the area I suppose.

Here, Comcast has four-plus bonded downstreams per node and two or three bonded upstreams (a friend who just re-switched-on his service on an SB6121 got 3 upstream, and he's 1.5 miles away from me). That's not a ton of capacity, but it's plenty enough that I've never seen slowdowns due to load.

This is from someone who, for the last few months, has consistently broken 250GB. I also pay $115/mo for 50/15...stop whining about you subsidizing me because I'm probably paying more per GB than you are even with the 758GB I transferred in May. Or the 293 I transferred in June (which by the way will be below the new cap). Or the 406GB I transferred in April.

Thing is, most of those GBs were not during peak hours (so no detriment to the last mile network). Many were on the upload side, which, granted, has less capacity, but the upload volume has dropped significantly since I finished seeding my external drive to Backblaze (my internal got seeded awhile ago).

On the backbone level, many of the sites that I connect to...that I download a fair amount of data from...are directly connected to Comcast or peer with Comcast through their host etc. Netflix's CDN connects directly with Comcast (so Comcast is probably being paid from that end for access), and Backblaze's upstream uses Cogent (which I guarantee you is doing settlement-free peering with Comcast these days) to connect to me. If you're in Florida and aren't using Backblaze, that traffic never mixes with yours (unless, somehow, said traffic runs over Cogent through Las Vegas), so I'm not in the slightest impacting anyone else's Internet performance, something that the caps are ostensibly designed to prevent.

Even though I'm moving to an area without Comcast (going to love unlimited data transfer on my upcoming TWC connection, though 5 Mbps uploads for the moment will be a letdown) I'm looking forward to when Comcast institutes a higher, harder cap, preferably starting at 300GB (which they will do no matter what) and increasing with higher tiers (my bet is that Blast will end up at 400-500GB and Extreme will sit in the 500-750 range). That way anyone whining about residential users subsidizing other residential users can...well...shut up, because the heavier users will be apying more some way (higher tier and/or overage fees).

Comcast's network has limited capacity on the last mile. I get that. But between 2008 and now Comcast has rolled out DOCSIS 3, with 4+ downstreams and 2+ upstreams per (smallish) node, to most of their footprint. They've driven harder bargains with upstream providers and anyone who pushes a lot of data onto their network from the other side. They've reclaimed analog channels so they have more room for Internet. The result is probably a 4x capacity improvement over four years ago on the downstream side, and at least a 4x improvement on the upload side.

So, do I feel like I've abused Comcast by pushing 750GB over my 50/15 connection? Nope. I figure they'd rather have me doing that and paying as much as their average triple-play customer (except I don't rent any equipment from them, so they have way less support to do on that end) than paying half as much, using one-eighth as much data, and calling twice a month due to issues with either their rental equipment or my non-power-user...uh...silly questions.


nhgames1010

join:2004-12-01
Lake Worth, FL
reply to Oedipus

My meter restarted and it says I used 6 GB for July. But at the same time it says "threshold is currently suspended."


Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
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said by nhgames1010:

My meter restarted and it says I used 6 GB for July. But at the same time it says "threshold is currently suspended."

Yeah, I wouldn't worry about that. Mine bounces back and forth between the meter and that message.


Mike Wolf

join:2009-05-24
Beachwood, NJ
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reply to TriForce

some people have already started doing so with doing terabytes of online backups and stuff. »Re: [BW Meter] Comcast to Replace Usage Cap



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
reply to Gerard1234

Well I just found this in my comcast page.



Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
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reply to Gerard1234

my page doesn't show suspended....



EG
The wings of love
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join:2006-11-18
Union, NJ
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reply to Oedipus

said by Oedipus:

Kinda funny how nobody talks about "subsidizing heavy users" in the fios forum.

FWIW, these two different last mile delivery technologies can't be directly compared.
Expand your moderator at work

verix

join:2004-12-30
Oakland, CA
reply to Gerard1234

Re: Enforcement of the 250 GB data consumption is suspended.

Heads up: three more days until the suspension is probably lifted.



TriForce

join:2008-05-27
Chico, CA
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said by verix:

Heads up: three more days until the suspension is probably lifted.

Who said that? There is no word yet on what they will do. Currently, one market is trialing the 300GB with $10 per 50GB overage, but no word on that spreading yet.

verix

join:2004-12-30
Oakland, CA

Whoops! I thought they had used the word "July" in that one-line notice but upon checking, was mistaken. All is well.



telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
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What is starting on August 1st is a trial of a new data usage plan in the Nashville market, with a 300GB threshold and each additional 50GB block above that costing $10 each, as was discussed in this previous thread: »New bandwidth plan in Nashville

There is an article about this trial on the Light Reading Cable site today:

Comcast Turns On Usage-Based Broadband
By Jeff Baumgartner, Light Reading Cable - July 30, 2012
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable

Comcast will also trial, in some other market, a tier-varying usage plan that has increasing data caps for different HSI tiers.


sava700

join:2005-03-08
united state

said by telcodad:

What is starting on August 1st is a trial of a new data usage plan in the Nashville market, with a 300GB threshold and each additional 50GB block above that costing $10 each, as was discussed in this previous thread: »New bandwidth plan in Nashville

There is an article about this trial on the Light Reading Cable site today:

Comcast Turns On Usage-Based Broadband
By Jeff Baumgartner, Light Reading Cable - July 30, 2012
»www.lightreading.com/document.as···lr_cable

Comcast will also trial, in some other market, a tier-varying usage plan that has increasing data caps for different HSI tiers.

I can tolerate this some what but 300 is still not enough, it should be 500.


telcodad

join:2011-09-16
Lincroft, NJ
kudos:3

said by sava700:

I can tolerate this some what but 300 is still not enough, it should be 500.

Yes, agreed.

It will be interesting to see what Comcast sets the progressive data allowances at for the tier-varying usage plan. I'm figuring that the (recently upgraded in NE US) Blast tier (50/10) will be given at least a 500GB allowance.


JigglyWiggly

join:2009-07-12
Pleasanton, CA

better yet
nocap
there is no reason for one...



TriForce

join:2008-05-27
Chico, CA
Reviews:
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said by JigglyWiggly:

better yet
nocap
there is no reason for one...

True. The caps exists because ISPs don't want to invest in their infrastructure to prevent last mile saturation. The practice of over-subbing nodes is not sustainable.

ViRGEdx

join:2002-10-25
reply to Gerard1234

Speaking of Nashville, is Comcast still going to be trialing the other proposed plan (300GB with higher caps for customers on higher tiers), or is this it?